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* [RFC][PATCH 0/9] [v4][RESEND] Migrate Pages in lieu of discard
@ 2020-10-07 16:17 ` Dave Hansen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 42+ messages in thread
From: Dave Hansen @ 2020-10-07 16:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel
  Cc: linux-mm, Dave Hansen, yang.shi, rientjes, ying.huang,
	dan.j.williams, david


Changes since (automigrate-20200818):
 * Fall back to normal reclaim when demotion fails

The full series is also available here:

	https://github.com/hansendc/linux/tree/automigrate-20201007

I really just want folks to look at:

	[RFC][PATCH 5/9] mm/migrate: demote pages during reclaim

I've reworked that so that it can both use the high-level migration
API, and fall back to normal reclaim if migration fails.  I think
that gives us the best of both worlds.

I'm posting the series in case folks want to run the whole thing.

--

We're starting to see systems with more and more kinds of memory such
as Intel's implementation of persistent memory.

Let's say you have a system with some DRAM and some persistent memory.
Today, once DRAM fills up, reclaim will start and some of the DRAM
contents will be thrown out.  Allocations will, at some point, start
falling over to the slower persistent memory.

That has two nasty properties.  First, the newer allocations can end
up in the slower persistent memory.  Second, reclaimed data in DRAM
are just discarded even if there are gobs of space in persistent
memory that could be used.

This set implements a solution to these problems.  At the end of the
reclaim process in shrink_page_list() just before the last page
refcount is dropped, the page is migrated to persistent memory instead
of being dropped.

While I've talked about a DRAM/PMEM pairing, this approach would
function in any environment where memory tiers exist.

This is not perfect.  It "strands" pages in slower memory and never
brings them back to fast DRAM.  Other things need to be built to
promote hot pages back to DRAM.

This is also all based on an upstream mechanism that allows
persistent memory to be onlined and used as if it were volatile:

	http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20190124231441.37A4A305@viggo.jf.intel.com

== Open Issues ==

 * For cpusets and memory policies that restrict allocations
   to PMEM, is it OK to demote to PMEM?  Do we need a cgroup-
   level API to opt-in or opt-out of these migrations?

--

Changes since (https://lwn.net/Articles/824830/):
 * Use higher-level migrate_pages() API approach from Yang Shi's
   earlier patches.
 * made sure to actually check node_reclaim_mode's new bit
 * disabled migration entirely before introducing RECLAIM_MIGRATE
 * Replace GFP_NOWAIT with explicit __GFP_KSWAPD_RECLAIM and
   comment why we want that.
 * Comment on effects of that keep multiple source nodes from
   sharing target nodes

Cc: Yang Shi <yang.shi@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>
Cc: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> 

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* [RFC][PATCH 0/9] [v3] Migrate Pages in lieu of discard
@ 2020-08-18 18:41 Dave Hansen
  2020-08-18 18:41 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/9] mm/vmscan: add page demotion counter Dave Hansen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 42+ messages in thread
From: Dave Hansen @ 2020-08-18 18:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel; +Cc: Dave Hansen, yang.shi, rientjes, ying.huang, dan.j.williams

todo:
Changes since (https://lwn.net/Articles/824830/):
 * Use higher-level migrate_pages() API approach from Yang Shi's
   earlier patches.
 * made sure to actually check node_reclaim_mode's new bit
 * disabled migration entirely before introducing RECLAIM_MIGRATE
 * Replace GFP_NOWAIT with explicit __GFP_KSWAPD_RECLAIM and
   comment why we want that.
 * Comment on effects of that keep multiple source nodes from
   sharing target nodes

The full series is also available here:

	https://github.com/hansendc/linux/tree/automigrate-20200818

--

We're starting to see systems with more and more kinds of memory such
as Intel's implementation of persistent memory.

Let's say you have a system with some DRAM and some persistent memory.
Today, once DRAM fills up, reclaim will start and some of the DRAM
contents will be thrown out.  Allocations will, at some point, start
falling over to the slower persistent memory.

That has two nasty properties.  First, the newer allocations can end
up in the slower persistent memory.  Second, reclaimed data in DRAM
are just discarded even if there are gobs of space in persistent
memory that could be used.

This set implements a solution to these problems.  At the end of the
reclaim process in shrink_page_list() just before the last page
refcount is dropped, the page is migrated to persistent memory instead
of being dropped.

While I've talked about a DRAM/PMEM pairing, this approach would
function in any environment where memory tiers exist.

This is not perfect.  It "strands" pages in slower memory and never
brings them back to fast DRAM.  Other things need to be built to
promote hot pages back to DRAM.

This is also all based on an upstream mechanism that allows
persistent memory to be onlined and used as if it were volatile:

	http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20190124231441.37A4A305@viggo.jf.intel.com

== Open Issues ==

 * For cpusets and memory policies that restrict allocations
   to PMEM, is it OK to demote to PMEM?  Do we need a cgroup-
   level API to opt-in or opt-out of these migrations?
 * Migration failures will result in pages being unreclaimable.
   Need to be able to fall back to normal reclaim.


Cc: Yang Shi <yang.shi@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>
Cc: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>

--

Dave Hansen (5):
      mm/numa: node demotion data structure and lookup
      mm/vmscan: Attempt to migrate page in lieu of discard
      mm/numa: automatically generate node migration order
      mm/vmscan: never demote for memcg reclaim
      mm/numa: new reclaim mode to enable reclaim-based migration

Keith Busch (2):
      mm/migrate: Defer allocating new page until needed
      mm/vmscan: Consider anonymous pages without swap

Yang Shi (1):
      mm/vmscan: add page demotion counter

 Documentation/admin-guide/sysctl/vm.rst |    9
 include/linux/migrate.h                 |    6
 include/linux/node.h                    |    9
 include/linux/vm_event_item.h           |    2
 include/trace/events/migrate.h          |    3
 mm/debug.c                              |    1
 mm/internal.h                           |    1
 mm/migrate.c                            |  400 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++------
 mm/page_alloc.c                         |    2
 mm/vmscan.c                             |   88 ++++++-
 mm/vmstat.c                             |    2
 11 files changed, 439 insertions(+), 84 deletions(-)

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2020-10-07 16:17   ` Dave Hansen
2020-10-07 18:08   ` osalvador
2020-10-07 16:17 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/9] mm/migrate: make migrate_pages() return nr_succeeded Dave Hansen
2020-10-07 16:17   ` Dave Hansen
2020-10-07 16:17 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/9] mm/migrate: demote pages during reclaim Dave Hansen
2020-10-07 16:17   ` Dave Hansen
2020-10-27 15:29   ` Oscar Salvador
2020-10-27 16:53     ` Yang Shi
2020-10-27 16:53       ` Yang Shi
2020-10-07 16:17 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/9] mm/vmscan: add page demotion counter Dave Hansen
2020-10-07 16:17   ` Dave Hansen
2020-10-19  7:37   ` Huang, Ying
2020-10-19  7:37     ` Huang, Ying
2020-10-27 16:41     ` Yang Shi
2020-10-27 16:41       ` Yang Shi
2020-10-28  1:25       ` Huang, Ying
2020-10-07 16:17 ` [RFC][PATCH 7/9] mm/vmscan: Consider anonymous pages without swap Dave Hansen
2020-10-07 16:17   ` Dave Hansen
2020-10-29  8:14   ` Oscar Salvador
2020-10-29 14:33     ` Dave Hansen
2020-10-29 15:57       ` Yang Shi
2020-10-29 15:57         ` Yang Shi
2020-10-29 19:08         ` osalvador
2020-10-29 19:30           ` Yang Shi
2020-10-29 19:30             ` Yang Shi
2020-10-07 16:17 ` [RFC][PATCH 8/9] mm/vmscan: never demote for memcg reclaim Dave Hansen
2020-10-07 16:17   ` Dave Hansen
2020-10-07 16:17 ` [RFC][PATCH 9/9] mm/migrate: new zone_reclaim_mode to enable reclaim migration Dave Hansen
2020-10-07 16:17   ` Dave Hansen
2020-10-12 21:30 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/9] [v4][RESEND] Migrate Pages in lieu of discard Yang Shi
2020-10-12 21:30   ` Yang Shi
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2020-08-18 18:41 [RFC][PATCH 0/9] [v3] " Dave Hansen
2020-08-18 18:41 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/9] mm/vmscan: add page demotion counter Dave Hansen
2020-08-20 22:26   ` Yang Shi
2020-08-20 23:58     ` Yang Shi
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