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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@fb.com>
To: Paolo Valente <paolo.valente@linaro.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux-Kernal <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	osandov@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/8] blk-mq-sched: add framework for MQ capable IO schedulers
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 18:47:14 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8d900827-3569-b695-86d6-3cfe27884d6a@fb.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <A117E4ED-1D8B-452F-9EF3-44E7714B5C75@linaro.org>

On 12/22/2016 04:13 AM, Paolo Valente wrote:
> 
>> Il giorno 22 dic 2016, alle ore 10:59, Paolo Valente <paolo.valente@linaro.org> ha scritto:
>>
>>>
>>> Il giorno 17 dic 2016, alle ore 01:12, Jens Axboe <axboe@fb.com> ha scritto:
>>>
>>> This adds a set of hooks that intercepts the blk-mq path of
>>> allocating/inserting/issuing/completing requests, allowing
>>> us to develop a scheduler within that framework.
>>>
>>> We reuse the existing elevator scheduler API on the registration
>>> side, but augment that with the scheduler flagging support for
>>> the blk-mq interfce, and with a separate set of ops hooks for MQ
>>> devices.
>>>
>>> Schedulers can opt in to using shadow requests. Shadow requests
>>> are internal requests that the scheduler uses for for the allocate
>>> and insert part, which are then mapped to a real driver request
>>> at dispatch time. This is needed to separate the device queue depth
>>> from the pool of requests that the scheduler has to work with.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Jens Axboe <axboe@fb.com>
>>>
>> ...
>>
>>> diff --git a/block/blk-mq-sched.c b/block/blk-mq-sched.c
>>> new file mode 100644
>>> index 000000000000..b7e1839d4785
>>> --- /dev/null
>>> +++ b/block/blk-mq-sched.c
>>
>>> ...
>>> +static inline bool
>>> +blk_mq_sched_allow_merge(struct request_queue *q, struct request *rq,
>>> +			 struct bio *bio)
>>> +{
>>> +	struct elevator_queue *e = q->elevator;
>>> +
>>> +	if (e && e->type->ops.mq.allow_merge)
>>> +		return e->type->ops.mq.allow_merge(q, rq, bio);
>>> +
>>> +	return true;
>>> +}
>>> +
>>
>> Something does not seem to add up here:
>> e->type->ops.mq.allow_merge may be called only in
>> blk_mq_sched_allow_merge, which, in its turn, may be called only in
>> blk_mq_attempt_merge, which, finally, may be called only in
>> blk_mq_merge_queue_io.  Yet the latter may be called only if there is
>> no elevator (line 1399 and 1507 in blk-mq.c).
>>
>> Therefore, e->type->ops.mq.allow_merge can never be called, both if
>> there is and if there is not an elevator.  Be patient if I'm missing
>> something huge, but I thought it was worth reporting this.
>>
> 
> Just another detail: if e->type->ops.mq.allow_merge does get invoked
> from the above path, then it is invoked of course without the
> scheduler lock held.  In contrast, if this function gets invoked
> from dd_bio_merge, then the scheduler lock is held.

But the scheduler controls that itself. So it'd be perfectly fine to
have a locked and unlocked variant. The way that's typically done is to
have function() grabbing the lock, and __function() is invoked with the
lock held.

> To handle this opposite alternatives, I don't know whether checking if
> the lock is held (and possibly taking it) from inside
> e->type->ops.mq.allow_merge is a good solution.  In any case, before
> possibly trying it, I will wait for some feedback on the main problem,
> i.e., on the fact that e->type->ops.mq.allow_merge
> seems unreachable in the above path.

Checking if a lock is held is NEVER a good idea, as it leads to both bad
and incorrect code. If you just check if a lock is held when being
called, you don't necessarily know if it was the caller that grabbed it
or it just happens to be held by someone else for unrelated reasons.


-- 
Jens Axboe

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Jens Axboe <axboe@fb.com>
To: Paolo Valente <paolo.valente@linaro.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-Kernal <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <osandov@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/8] blk-mq-sched: add framework for MQ capable IO schedulers
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 18:47:14 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8d900827-3569-b695-86d6-3cfe27884d6a@fb.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <A117E4ED-1D8B-452F-9EF3-44E7714B5C75@linaro.org>

On 12/22/2016 04:13 AM, Paolo Valente wrote:
> 
>> Il giorno 22 dic 2016, alle ore 10:59, Paolo Valente <paolo.valente@linaro.org> ha scritto:
>>
>>>
>>> Il giorno 17 dic 2016, alle ore 01:12, Jens Axboe <axboe@fb.com> ha scritto:
>>>
>>> This adds a set of hooks that intercepts the blk-mq path of
>>> allocating/inserting/issuing/completing requests, allowing
>>> us to develop a scheduler within that framework.
>>>
>>> We reuse the existing elevator scheduler API on the registration
>>> side, but augment that with the scheduler flagging support for
>>> the blk-mq interfce, and with a separate set of ops hooks for MQ
>>> devices.
>>>
>>> Schedulers can opt in to using shadow requests. Shadow requests
>>> are internal requests that the scheduler uses for for the allocate
>>> and insert part, which are then mapped to a real driver request
>>> at dispatch time. This is needed to separate the device queue depth
>>> from the pool of requests that the scheduler has to work with.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Jens Axboe <axboe@fb.com>
>>>
>> ...
>>
>>> diff --git a/block/blk-mq-sched.c b/block/blk-mq-sched.c
>>> new file mode 100644
>>> index 000000000000..b7e1839d4785
>>> --- /dev/null
>>> +++ b/block/blk-mq-sched.c
>>
>>> ...
>>> +static inline bool
>>> +blk_mq_sched_allow_merge(struct request_queue *q, struct request *rq,
>>> +			 struct bio *bio)
>>> +{
>>> +	struct elevator_queue *e = q->elevator;
>>> +
>>> +	if (e && e->type->ops.mq.allow_merge)
>>> +		return e->type->ops.mq.allow_merge(q, rq, bio);
>>> +
>>> +	return true;
>>> +}
>>> +
>>
>> Something does not seem to add up here:
>> e->type->ops.mq.allow_merge may be called only in
>> blk_mq_sched_allow_merge, which, in its turn, may be called only in
>> blk_mq_attempt_merge, which, finally, may be called only in
>> blk_mq_merge_queue_io.  Yet the latter may be called only if there is
>> no elevator (line 1399 and 1507 in blk-mq.c).
>>
>> Therefore, e->type->ops.mq.allow_merge can never be called, both if
>> there is and if there is not an elevator.  Be patient if I'm missing
>> something huge, but I thought it was worth reporting this.
>>
> 
> Just another detail: if e->type->ops.mq.allow_merge does get invoked
> from the above path, then it is invoked of course without the
> scheduler lock held.  In contrast, if this function gets invoked
> from dd_bio_merge, then the scheduler lock is held.

But the scheduler controls that itself. So it'd be perfectly fine to
have a locked and unlocked variant. The way that's typically done is to
have function() grabbing the lock, and __function() is invoked with the
lock held.

> To handle this opposite alternatives, I don't know whether checking if
> the lock is held (and possibly taking it) from inside
> e->type->ops.mq.allow_merge is a good solution.  In any case, before
> possibly trying it, I will wait for some feedback on the main problem,
> i.e., on the fact that e->type->ops.mq.allow_merge
> seems unreachable in the above path.

Checking if a lock is held is NEVER a good idea, as it leads to both bad
and incorrect code. If you just check if a lock is held when being
called, you don't necessarily know if it was the caller that grabbed it
or it just happens to be held by someone else for unrelated reasons.


-- 
Jens Axboe

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-17  2:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-17  0:12 [PATCHSET v4] blk-mq-scheduling framework Jens Axboe
2016-12-17  0:12 ` [PATCH 1/8] block: move existing elevator ops to union Jens Axboe
2016-12-17  0:12 ` [PATCH 2/8] blk-mq: make mq_ops a const pointer Jens Axboe
2016-12-17  0:12 ` [PATCH 3/8] block: move rq_ioc() to blk.h Jens Axboe
2016-12-20 10:12   ` Paolo Valente
2016-12-20 10:12     ` Paolo Valente
2016-12-20 15:46     ` Jens Axboe
2016-12-20 22:14       ` Jens Axboe
2016-12-17  0:12 ` [PATCH 4/8] blk-mq: un-export blk_mq_free_hctx_request() Jens Axboe
2016-12-17  0:12 ` [PATCH 5/8] blk-mq: export some helpers we need to the scheduling framework Jens Axboe
2016-12-17  0:12 ` [PATCH 6/8] blk-mq-sched: add framework for MQ capable IO schedulers Jens Axboe
2016-12-20 11:55   ` Paolo Valente
2016-12-20 11:55     ` Paolo Valente
2016-12-20 15:45     ` Jens Axboe
2016-12-21  2:22     ` Jens Axboe
2016-12-22 15:20       ` Paolo Valente
2016-12-22 15:20         ` Paolo Valente
2016-12-22  9:59   ` Paolo Valente
2016-12-22  9:59     ` Paolo Valente
2016-12-22 11:13     ` Paolo Valente
2016-12-22 11:13       ` Paolo Valente
2017-01-17  2:47       ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2017-01-17  2:47         ` Jens Axboe
2017-01-17 10:13         ` Paolo Valente
2017-01-17 10:13           ` Paolo Valente
2017-01-17 12:38           ` Jens Axboe
2017-01-17 12:38             ` Jens Axboe
2016-12-23 10:12     ` Paolo Valente
2016-12-23 10:12       ` Paolo Valente
2017-01-17  2:47     ` Jens Axboe
2017-01-17  9:17       ` Paolo Valente
2017-01-17  9:17         ` Paolo Valente
2016-12-17  0:12 ` [PATCH 7/8] mq-deadline: add blk-mq adaptation of the deadline IO scheduler Jens Axboe
2016-12-20  9:34   ` Paolo Valente
2016-12-20  9:34     ` Paolo Valente
2016-12-20 15:46     ` Jens Axboe
2016-12-21 11:59   ` Bart Van Assche
2016-12-21 11:59     ` Bart Van Assche
2016-12-21 14:22     ` Jens Axboe
2016-12-22 16:07   ` Paolo Valente
2016-12-22 16:07     ` Paolo Valente
2017-01-17  2:47     ` Jens Axboe
2017-01-17  2:47       ` Jens Axboe
2016-12-22 16:49   ` Paolo Valente
2016-12-22 16:49     ` Paolo Valente
2017-01-17  2:47     ` Jens Axboe
2017-01-20 11:07       ` Paolo Valente
2017-01-20 11:07         ` Paolo Valente
2017-01-20 14:26         ` Jens Axboe
2017-01-20 13:14   ` Paolo Valente
2017-01-20 13:14     ` Paolo Valente
2017-01-20 13:18     ` Paolo Valente
2017-01-20 13:18       ` Paolo Valente
2017-01-20 14:28       ` Jens Axboe
2017-01-20 14:28     ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-01 11:11   ` Paolo Valente
2017-02-01 11:11     ` Paolo Valente
2017-02-02  5:19     ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-02  9:19       ` Paolo Valente
2017-02-02  9:19         ` Paolo Valente
2017-02-02 15:30         ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-02 15:30           ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-02 21:15           ` Paolo Valente
2017-02-02 21:15             ` Paolo Valente
2017-02-02 21:32             ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-02 21:32               ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-07 17:27               ` Paolo Valente
2017-02-07 17:27                 ` Paolo Valente
2017-02-01 11:56   ` Paolo Valente
2017-02-01 11:56     ` Paolo Valente
2017-02-02  5:20     ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-16 10:46   ` Paolo Valente
2017-02-16 10:46     ` Paolo Valente
2017-02-16 15:35     ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-16 15:35       ` Jens Axboe
2016-12-17  0:12 ` [PATCH 8/8] blk-mq-sched: allow setting of default " Jens Axboe
2016-12-19 11:32 ` [PATCHSET v4] blk-mq-scheduling framework Paolo Valente
2016-12-19 11:32   ` Paolo Valente
2016-12-19 15:20   ` Jens Axboe
2016-12-19 15:20     ` Jens Axboe
2016-12-19 15:33     ` Jens Axboe
2016-12-19 18:21     ` Paolo Valente
2016-12-19 18:21       ` Paolo Valente
2016-12-19 21:05       ` Jens Axboe
2016-12-19 21:05         ` Jens Axboe
2016-12-22 15:28         ` Paolo Valente
2016-12-22 15:28           ` Paolo Valente
2017-01-17  2:47           ` Jens Axboe
2017-01-17 10:43             ` Paolo Valente
2017-01-17 10:44             ` Paolo Valente
2017-01-17 10:47             ` Paolo Valente
2017-01-17 10:49             ` Paolo Valente
2017-01-17 10:49               ` Paolo Valente
2017-01-18 16:14               ` Paolo Valente
2017-01-18 16:14                 ` Paolo Valente
2017-01-18 16:21                 ` Jens Axboe
2017-01-18 16:21                   ` Jens Axboe
2017-01-23 17:04                   ` Paolo Valente
2017-01-23 17:04                     ` Paolo Valente
2017-01-23 17:42                     ` Jens Axboe
2017-01-23 17:42                       ` Jens Axboe
2017-01-25  8:46                       ` Paolo Valente
2017-01-25  8:46                         ` Paolo Valente
2017-01-25 16:13                         ` Jens Axboe
2017-01-25 16:13                           ` Jens Axboe
2017-01-26 14:23                           ` Paolo Valente
2017-01-26 14:23                             ` Paolo Valente
2016-12-22 16:23 ` Bart Van Assche
2016-12-22 16:52   ` Omar Sandoval
2016-12-22 16:52     ` Omar Sandoval
2016-12-22 16:57     ` Bart Van Assche
2016-12-22 16:57       ` Bart Van Assche
2016-12-22 17:12       ` Omar Sandoval
2016-12-22 17:39         ` Bart Van Assche
2016-12-22 17:39           ` Bart Van Assche

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