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From: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <v.sementsov-og@mail.ru>
To: Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito <eesposit@redhat.com>,
	Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org
Cc: Fam Zheng <fam@euphon.net>, Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Hanna Reitz <hreitz@redhat.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>, John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] Removal of AioContext lock, bs->parents and ->children: proof of concept
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2022 15:22:19 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9215c4ca-110e-8929-62a0-908d4a3f27b9@mail.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e1f1051f-f3bd-9a05-2821-143542d6ff18@redhat.com>

17.03.2022 00:55, Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito wrote:
> 
> 
> Am 09/03/2022 um 14:26 schrieb Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito:
>>> Next, I have a problem in mind, that in past lead to a lot of iotest 30
>>> failures. Next there were different fixes and improvements, but the core
>>> problem (as far as I understand) is still here: nothing protects us when
>>> we are in some graph modification process (for example block-job
>>> finalization) do yield, switch to other coroutine and enter another
>>> graph modification process (for example, another block-job finaliztion)..
>> That's another point to consider. I don't really have a solution for this.
>>
> On a side note, that might not be a real problem.
> If I understand correctly, your fear is that we are doing something like
> parent->children[x] = new_node // partial graph operation
> /* yield to another coroutine */
> coroutine reads/writes parent->children[x] and/or new_node->parents[y]
> /* yield back */
> new_node->parents[y] = parent // end of the initial graph operation
> 
> Is that what you are pointing out here?
> If so, is there a concrete example for this? Because yields and drains
> (that eventually can poll) seem to be put either before or after the
> whole graph modification section. In other words, even if a coroutine
> enters, it will be always before or after the _whole_ graph modification
> is performed.
> 

The old example was here: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2020-11/msg05212.html  - not sure how much is it applicable now.

Another example - look at bdrv_drop_intermediate() in block.c and at TODO comments in it.

In both cases the problem is we want to update some metadata in qcow2 (backing file name) as part of block-graph modification. But this update does write to qcow2 header which may yield and switch to some another block-graph modification code.


-- 
Best regards,
Vladimir


  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-21 12:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-01 14:21 [RFC PATCH 0/5] Removal of AioContext lock, bs->parents and ->children: proof of concept Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-03-01 14:21 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] aio-wait.h: introduce AIO_WAIT_WHILE_UNLOCKED Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-03-02 16:21   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-03-01 14:21 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] introduce BDRV_POLL_WHILE_UNLOCKED Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-03-02 16:22   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-03-09 13:49   ` Eric Blake
2022-03-01 14:21 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] block/io.c: introduce bdrv_subtree_drained_{begin/end}_unlocked Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-03-02 16:25   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-03-01 14:21 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] child_job_drained_poll: override polling condition only when in home thread Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-03-02 16:37   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-03-01 14:21 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] test-bdrv-drain: ensure draining from main loop stops iothreads Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-03-01 14:26 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] Removal of AioContext lock, bs->parents and ->children: proof of concept Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-03-02  9:47 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-03-09 13:26   ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-03-10 15:54     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-03-17 16:23     ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-03-30 10:53       ` Hanna Reitz
2022-03-30 11:55         ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-03-30 14:12           ` Hanna Reitz
2022-03-30 16:02         ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-31  9:59           ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-31 13:51             ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-03-31 16:40               ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-04-01  8:05                 ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-04-01 11:01                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-04-04  9:25                     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-04-04  9:41                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-04-04  9:51                         ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-04-04 10:07                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-04-05  9:39                         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-04-05 10:43                         ` Kevin Wolf
2022-04-13 13:43                     ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-04-13 14:51                       ` Kevin Wolf
2022-04-13 15:14                         ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-04-13 15:22                           ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-04-13 16:29                           ` Kevin Wolf
2022-04-13 20:43                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-04-13 20:46                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-02 11:07 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2022-03-02 16:20   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-03-09 13:26   ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-03-16 21:55     ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-03-21 12:22       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy [this message]
2022-03-21 15:24     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2022-03-21 15:44     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2022-03-30  9:09       ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-03-30  9:52         ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2022-03-30  9:58           ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-04-05 10:55             ` Kevin Wolf

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