Re: [Xen-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Call for agenda items for September 5th Community Call @ 15:00 UTC

From: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
To: Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@citrix.com>,
	Rich Persaud <persaur@gmail.com>, Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
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Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Call for agenda items for September 5th Community Call @ 15:00 UTC
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2019 10:06:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <92a15d9c-31f4-6bd3-51fd-3499f98186b8@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <EC6DDB1D-BAFF-4079-BBD9-837383A5E3A5@citrix.com>

On 05.09.19 10:00, Lars Kurth wrote:
> 
> 
> On 05/09/2019, 08:50, "Jan Beulich" <jbeulich@suse.com> wrote:
> 
>      On 05.09.2019 09:41, Rich Persaud wrote:
>      > If Xen community call topics are limited to escalations of xen-devel threads, then a new thread can be created for this topic. Xen community calls have also provided real-time, interactive feedback on candidate proposals, along with guidance on areas which need documentation before a formal proposal is made to xen-devel.   Such agenda items are typically covered after all series and priority topics have been addressed.
>      
>      I'll certainly listen to what others think, but I have to confess that
>      on such prior instances I was already on the edge of requesting that
>      time not be spent in such a way. Please recall that calls, other than
>      mails, take everybody's time, and exactly at the same time. Therefore
>      my personal opinion is that topics on calls should be limited to items
>      which cannot be resolved by other means, or which are certain to need
>      (almost) everybody's attention right away.
>      
> I disagree with you on this one.
> 
> So yes, it is true that a call costs everyone time. But it's a fixed cost once per month
> *  Something experimental could be posted on the list and it may take everyone more time to read and respond than a 5 minute early discussion on the call
> * Also, of course everyone has the option to drop out or not attend a call based on the agenda
> * If we had more urgent stuff to discuss all the time and we would have to displace urgent discussions to cover discussions which can wait, I may agree with you, but this is not currently the case
> 
> I will look at the agenda though and re-structure it in such a way that this is clear
> 
> IMPORTANT: I had a few additions to the agenda, but do not know WHO added these. I believe one was Juergen. Who added the items related to MA Youngs patches? And if you add series to discuss can you please add URLs or message IDs

Done.

Juergen

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