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From: Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@scylladb.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-api <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>, Andrew Hunter <ahh@google.com>,
	maged michael <maged.michael@gmail.com>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Dave Watson <davejwatson@fb.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Andrea Parri <parri.andrea@gmail.com>,
	"Russell King, ARM Linux" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Greg Hackmann <ghackmann@google.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>, David Sehr <sehr@google.com>,
	x86 <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] x86: Fix missing core serialization on migration
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 19:24:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <95f902ea-3e97-0280-2d52-28cadef7806d@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171114181732.bwahj6woik27trou@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 11/14/2017 07:17 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 07:01:55PM +0100, Daniel Bristot de Oliveira wrote:
>> On 11/14/2017 06:40 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 06:17:13PM +0100, Daniel Bristot de Oliveira wrote:
>>>
>>>> IIRC, if the dest cpu is idle and the system is with idle=poll, no IPI
>>>> is fired as well, but that is not a very common case.
>>>
>>> You're thinking about wake from idle? That is almost always without IPI,
>>> even without idle=poll.
>>>
>>
>> I meant the resched_curr(rq) of an rq on another CPU. If the dest is
>> idle && idle=poll, the IPI will not be send.
> 
> I'm saying the IPI will not be send even without idle=poll. MWAIT based
> idle will also have TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG set.
> 

Yeah! you are right! I missed that point... sorry :-)

-- Daniel

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From: Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers
	<mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Avi Kivity <avi-VrcmuVmyx1hWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Linus Torvalds
	<torvalds-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-api <linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney"
	<paulmck-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Andrew Hunter <ahh-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	maged michael
	<maged.michael-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt
	<benh-XVmvHMARGAS8U2dJNN8I7kB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus-eUNUBHrolfbYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe-Gsx/Oe8HsFggBc27wqDAHg@public.gmane.org>,
	Dave Watson <davejwatson-b10kYP2dOMg@public.gmane.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Andrea Parri
	<parri.andrea-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"Russell King, ARM Linux" <linux@armlinux.o>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] x86: Fix missing core serialization on migration
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 19:24:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <95f902ea-3e97-0280-2d52-28cadef7806d@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171114181732.bwahj6woik27trou-Nxj+rRp3nVydTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>

On 11/14/2017 07:17 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 07:01:55PM +0100, Daniel Bristot de Oliveira wrote:
>> On 11/14/2017 06:40 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 06:17:13PM +0100, Daniel Bristot de Oliveira wrote:
>>>
>>>> IIRC, if the dest cpu is idle and the system is with idle=poll, no IPI
>>>> is fired as well, but that is not a very common case.
>>>
>>> You're thinking about wake from idle? That is almost always without IPI,
>>> even without idle=poll.
>>>
>>
>> I meant the resched_curr(rq) of an rq on another CPU. If the dest is
>> idle && idle=poll, the IPI will not be send.
> 
> I'm saying the IPI will not be send even without idle=poll. MWAIT based
> idle will also have TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG set.
> 

Yeah! you are right! I missed that point... sorry :-)

-- Daniel

  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-14 18:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-10 21:12 [RFC PATCH 0/2] x86: Fix missing core serialization on migration Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-10 21:12 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-10 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] x86: Introduce sync_core_before_usermode Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-10 21:12   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-10 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] Fix: x86: Add missing core serializing instruction on migration Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-10 21:12   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-10 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] x86: Fix missing core serialization " Linus Torvalds
2017-11-10 21:36   ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-10 21:57   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-10 21:57     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-10 22:12     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-10 22:12       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-13 16:56     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-13 16:56       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-13 17:14       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-13 17:14         ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-14 14:53       ` Avi Kivity
2017-11-14 14:53         ` Avi Kivity
2017-11-14 15:17         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 15:17           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 15:42           ` Avi Kivity
2017-11-14 15:42             ` Avi Kivity
2017-11-14 16:05           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-14 16:05             ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-14 16:08             ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-14 16:08               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-14 16:49               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 16:49                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 17:03                 ` Avi Kivity
2017-11-14 17:03                   ` Avi Kivity
2017-11-14 17:10                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 17:10                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-14 17:31                     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-14 17:31                       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-14 16:10             ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-11-14 16:10               ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-11-14 16:13               ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-14 16:13                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-14 16:16                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-11-14 16:16                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-11-14 16:31                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-14 16:31                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-14 17:17                     ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2017-11-14 17:17                       ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2017-11-14 17:40                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-14 17:40                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-14 18:01                         ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2017-11-14 18:01                           ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2017-11-14 18:17                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-14 18:17                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-14 18:24                             ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira [this message]
2017-11-14 18:24                               ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira

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