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From: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: pkrempa@redhat.com, armbru@redhat.com, qemu-block@nongnu.org,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/18] Add qemu-storage-daemon
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2019 16:35:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9f7e1287-23ac-bf61-a808-a2462c0ce1d4@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191106145800.GC7548@dhcp-200-226.str.redhat.com>


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On 06.11.19 15:58, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> Am 06.11.2019 um 15:37 hat Max Reitz geschrieben:
>> On 17.10.19 15:01, Kevin Wolf wrote:
>>> This series adds a new tool 'qemu-storage-daemon', which can be used to
>>> export and perform operations on block devices.
>>
>> Looks good to me.
>>
>> I remember a discussion at some KVM Forum a couple of years ago where
>> someone (Berto?) was asking about adding QMP to qemu-nbd.  I found it a
>> pragmatic solution, but I remember that Markus was against it, based on
>> the fact that we wanted qemu -M none.
> 
> Yes, but it turned out that qemu -M none is a bit too heavyweight in
> practice and fixing that would involve a lot of work. As I understand it
> (mostly what I took from discussions on the list), even if someone were
> interested in doing that and started now, it's the kind of thing that
> would take multiple years.

I didn’t want to give the impression I wouldn’t agree. O:-)

(I agree completely, and basically that was my
understanding/opinion/feeling back when we discussed it, too.)

> As long as we keep the code simple and the interesting parts are just
> reused and shared with the system emulator and other tools, it shouldn't
> be hard to maintain.
> 
>> Well, but anyway.  Just as I didn’t have anything against adding QMP to
>> qemu-nbd, I don’t have anything against adding a new application that
>> kind of fulfills the same purpose.  And I think introducing a new
>> application instead of reusing qemu-nbd that focuses on all-around QAPI
>> compatibility (which qemu-nbd decidedly does not have) makes sense.
> 
> Yes, QAPI is one big reason for creating a new tool that doesn't need to
> support the old qemu-nbd command line. Another is that we can add other
> types of exports that are not NBD.

Sure.

>> The only thing I don’t like is the name, but that’s what <Tab> is for.
>> :-)
> 
> I'm open for suggestions, but I thought 'qsd' was a bit too terse. :-)
> 
> (Actually, maybe we could even pick something that doesn't mention
> storage or block? After all, it can do all kinds of QEMU backends in
> theory. Not sure if there's any standalone use for them, but who
> knows...)

Be careful, if we stuff too much into it, we’ll end up with just qemu
again. :-)

Max


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  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-06 15:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-17 13:01 [RFC PATCH 00/18] Add qemu-storage-daemon Kevin Wolf
2019-10-17 13:01 ` [RFC PATCH 01/18] qemu-storage-daemon: Add barebone tool Kevin Wolf
2019-10-24 13:50   ` Eric Blake
2019-11-13 14:12     ` Kevin Wolf
2019-11-06 12:11   ` Max Reitz
2019-11-07 16:21   ` Markus Armbruster
2019-10-17 13:01 ` [RFC PATCH 02/18] qemu-storage-daemon: Add --object option Kevin Wolf
2019-11-07 20:36   ` Markus Armbruster
2019-11-14 12:05     ` Kevin Wolf
2019-11-18  9:10       ` Markus Armbruster
2019-10-17 13:01 ` [RFC PATCH 03/18] stubs: Add arch_type Kevin Wolf
2019-10-17 13:01 ` [RFC PATCH 04/18] stubs: Add blk_by_qdev_id() Kevin Wolf
2019-11-08  9:03   ` Markus Armbruster
2019-10-17 13:01 ` [RFC PATCH 05/18] qemu-storage-daemon: Add --blockdev option Kevin Wolf
2019-11-08 13:29   ` Markus Armbruster
2019-10-17 13:01 ` [RFC PATCH 06/18] qemu-storage-daemon: Add --nbd-server option Kevin Wolf
2019-11-06 12:51   ` Max Reitz
2019-11-06 19:25     ` Eric Blake
2019-11-07  8:33       ` Kevin Wolf
2019-11-07 13:45         ` Eric Blake
2019-11-07 15:27           ` Kevin Wolf
2019-11-07 15:36             ` Eric Blake
2019-11-08 15:36     ` Markus Armbruster
2019-10-17 13:01 ` [RFC PATCH 07/18] blockdev-nbd: Boxed argument type for nbd-server-add Kevin Wolf
2019-10-17 13:01 ` [RFC PATCH 08/18] qemu-storage-daemon: Add --export option Kevin Wolf
2019-11-06 13:11   ` Max Reitz
2019-11-06 13:34     ` Kevin Wolf
2019-11-06 13:39       ` Max Reitz
2019-11-08 15:57       ` Markus Armbruster
2019-10-17 13:01 ` [RFC PATCH 09/18] qemu-storage-daemon: Add main loop Kevin Wolf
2019-11-08 16:02   ` Markus Armbruster
2019-10-17 13:01 ` [RFC PATCH 10/18] qemu-storage-daemon: Add --chardev option Kevin Wolf
2019-11-08 16:27   ` Markus Armbruster
2019-10-17 13:01 ` [RFC PATCH 11/18] monitor: Move monitor option parsing to monitor/monitor.c Kevin Wolf
2019-10-17 13:01 ` [RFC PATCH 12/18] stubs: Update monitor stubs for qemu-storage-daemon Kevin Wolf
2019-11-08 16:45   ` Markus Armbruster
2019-10-17 13:01 ` [RFC PATCH 13/18] qapi: Create module 'monitor' Kevin Wolf
2019-11-11  9:36   ` Markus Armbruster
2019-10-17 13:02 ` [RFC PATCH 14/18] monitor: Create monitor/qmp-cmds-monitor.c Kevin Wolf
2019-10-17 13:02 ` [RFC PATCH 15/18] qapi: Support empty modules Kevin Wolf
2019-11-12  8:29   ` Markus Armbruster
2019-10-17 13:02 ` [RFC PATCH 16/18] qapi: Create 'pragma' module Kevin Wolf
2019-11-12  9:41   ` Markus Armbruster
2019-10-17 13:02 ` [RFC PATCH 17/18] monitor: Move qmp_query_qmp_schema to qmp-cmds-monitor.c Kevin Wolf
2019-10-17 13:02 ` [RFC PATCH 18/18] qemu-storage-daemon: Add --monitor option Kevin Wolf
2019-11-06 14:32   ` Max Reitz
2019-11-07 10:12     ` Kevin Wolf
2019-11-07 10:44       ` Max Reitz
2019-11-08  8:59   ` Markus Armbruster
2019-11-12 14:25   ` Markus Armbruster
2019-11-13 10:58     ` Kevin Wolf
2019-11-13 13:53       ` Markus Armbruster
2019-10-24 11:33 ` [RFC PATCH 00/18] Add qemu-storage-daemon Kevin Wolf
2019-10-24 13:55 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-11-14 10:44   ` Kevin Wolf
2019-11-05 15:52 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-06 14:37 ` Max Reitz
2019-11-06 14:58   ` Kevin Wolf
2019-11-06 15:35     ` Max Reitz [this message]
2019-11-06 17:13     ` Eric Blake
2019-11-21 10:32     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-21 11:08       ` Kevin Wolf
2019-12-12 11:16         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-11-07 10:33 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-11-07 12:03   ` Kevin Wolf

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