From: Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi> To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de> Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>, Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>, linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>, David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>, Zhang Yanmin <yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com>, Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>, Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie> Subject: Re: [RFC V2 SLEB 00/14] The Enhanced(hopefully) Slab Allocator Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 13:45:07 +0300 [thread overview] Message-ID: <AANLkTimazVL8G-XQURiQ1s0M3NKa2ndXNceSaw9sADRQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <20100525101924.GJ5087@laptop> Hi Nick, On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de> wrote: >> Like I said, as a maintainer I'm happy to merge patches to modernize >> SLAB > > I think that would be most productive at this point. I will volunteer > to do it. OK, great! > As much as I would like to see SLQB be merged :) I think the best > option is to go with SLAB because it is very well tested and very > very well performing. I would have liked to see SLQB merged as well but it just didn't happen. > If Christoph or you or I or anyone have genuine improvements to make > to the core algorithms, then the best thing to do will just be do > make incremental changes to SLAB. I don't see the problem in improving SLUB even if we start modernizing SLAB. Do you? I'm obviously biased towards SLUB still for the reasons I already mentioned. I don't want to be a blocker for progress so if I turn out to be a problem, we should consider changing the maintainer(s). ;-) > There are several aspects to this. I think the first one will be to > actually modernize the code style, simplify the bootstrap process and > static memory allocations (SLQB goes even further than SLUB in this > regard), and to pull in debug features from SLUB. > > These steps should be made without any changes to core algorithms. > Alien caches can easily be disabled and at present they are really > only a problem for big Altixes where it is a known parameter to tune. > > From that point, I think we should concede that SLUB has not fulfilled > performance promises, and make SLAB the default. Sure. I don't care which allocator "wins" if we actually are able to get there. Pekka
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From: Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi> To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de> Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>, Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>, linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>, David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>, Zhang Yanmin <yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com>, Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>, Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie> Subject: Re: [RFC V2 SLEB 00/14] The Enhanced(hopefully) Slab Allocator Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 13:45:07 +0300 [thread overview] Message-ID: <AANLkTimazVL8G-XQURiQ1s0M3NKa2ndXNceSaw9sADRQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <20100525101924.GJ5087@laptop> Hi Nick, On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de> wrote: >> Like I said, as a maintainer I'm happy to merge patches to modernize >> SLAB > > I think that would be most productive at this point. I will volunteer > to do it. OK, great! > As much as I would like to see SLQB be merged :) I think the best > option is to go with SLAB because it is very well tested and very > very well performing. I would have liked to see SLQB merged as well but it just didn't happen. > If Christoph or you or I or anyone have genuine improvements to make > to the core algorithms, then the best thing to do will just be do > make incremental changes to SLAB. I don't see the problem in improving SLUB even if we start modernizing SLAB. Do you? I'm obviously biased towards SLUB still for the reasons I already mentioned. I don't want to be a blocker for progress so if I turn out to be a problem, we should consider changing the maintainer(s). ;-) > There are several aspects to this. I think the first one will be to > actually modernize the code style, simplify the bootstrap process and > static memory allocations (SLQB goes even further than SLUB in this > regard), and to pull in debug features from SLUB. > > These steps should be made without any changes to core algorithms. > Alien caches can easily be disabled and at present they are really > only a problem for big Altixes where it is a known parameter to tune. > > From that point, I think we should concede that SLUB has not fulfilled > performance promises, and make SLAB the default. Sure. I don't care which allocator "wins" if we actually are able to get there. Pekka -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@kvack.org"> email@kvack.org </a>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-05-25 10:45 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2010-05-21 21:14 [RFC V2 SLEB 00/14] The Enhanced(hopefully) Slab Allocator Christoph Lameter 2010-05-21 21:14 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 01/14] slab: Introduce a constant for a unspecified node Christoph Lameter 2010-06-07 21:44 ` David Rientjes 2010-06-07 22:30 ` Christoph Lameter 2010-06-08 5:41 ` Pekka Enberg 2010-06-08 6:20 ` David Rientjes 2010-06-08 6:34 ` Pekka Enberg 2010-06-08 23:35 ` David Rientjes 2010-06-09 5:55 ` Pekka Enberg 2010-06-09 5:55 ` Pekka Enberg 2010-06-09 6:20 ` David Rientjes 2010-06-09 6:20 ` David Rientjes 2010-05-21 21:14 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 02/14] SLUB: Constants need UL Christoph Lameter 2010-05-21 21:14 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 03/14] SLUB: Use kmem_cache flags to detect if Slab is in debugging mode Christoph Lameter 2010-06-08 3:57 ` David Rientjes 2010-05-21 21:14 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 04/14] SLUB: discard_slab_unlock Christoph Lameter 2010-05-21 21:14 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 05/14] SLUB: is_kmalloc_cache Christoph Lameter 2010-06-08 8:54 ` David Rientjes 2010-05-21 21:14 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 06/14] SLUB: Get rid of the kmalloc_node slab Christoph Lameter 2010-06-09 6:14 ` David Rientjes 2010-06-09 16:14 ` Christoph Lameter 2010-06-09 16:26 ` Pekka Enberg 2010-06-10 6:07 ` Pekka Enberg 2010-05-21 21:14 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 07/14] SLEB: The Enhanced Slab Allocator Christoph Lameter 2010-05-21 21:15 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 08/14] SLEB: Resize cpu queue Christoph Lameter 2010-05-21 21:15 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 09/14] SLED: Get rid of useless function Christoph Lameter 2010-05-21 21:15 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 10/14] SLEB: Remove MAX_OBJS limitation Christoph Lameter 2010-05-21 21:15 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 11/14] SLEB: Add per node cache (with a fixed size for now) Christoph Lameter 2010-05-21 21:15 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 12/14] SLEB: Make the size of the shared cache configurable Christoph Lameter 2010-05-21 21:15 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 13/14] SLEB: Enhanced NUMA support Christoph Lameter 2010-05-21 21:15 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 14/14] SLEB: Allocate off node objects from remote shared caches Christoph Lameter 2010-05-22 8:37 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 00/14] The Enhanced(hopefully) Slab Allocator Pekka Enberg 2010-05-24 7:03 ` Nick Piggin 2010-05-24 15:06 ` Christoph Lameter 2010-05-25 2:06 ` Nick Piggin 2010-05-25 6:55 ` Pekka Enberg 2010-05-25 7:07 ` Nick Piggin 2010-05-25 8:03 ` Pekka Enberg 2010-05-25 8:03 ` Pekka Enberg 2010-05-25 8:16 ` Nick Piggin 2010-05-25 8:16 ` Nick Piggin 2010-05-25 9:19 ` Pekka Enberg 2010-05-25 9:19 ` Pekka Enberg 2010-05-25 9:34 ` Nick Piggin 2010-05-25 9:34 ` Nick Piggin 2010-05-25 9:53 ` Pekka Enberg 2010-05-25 9:53 ` Pekka Enberg 2010-05-25 10:19 ` Nick Piggin 2010-05-25 10:19 ` Nick Piggin 2010-05-25 10:45 ` Pekka Enberg [this message] 2010-05-25 10:45 ` Pekka Enberg 2010-05-25 11:06 ` Nick Piggin 2010-05-25 11:06 ` Nick Piggin 2010-05-25 15:13 ` Linus Torvalds 2010-05-25 15:13 ` Linus Torvalds 2010-05-25 15:43 ` Nick Piggin 2010-05-25 15:43 ` Nick Piggin 2010-05-25 17:02 ` Pekka Enberg 2010-05-25 17:02 ` Pekka Enberg 2010-05-25 17:19 ` Nick Piggin 2010-05-25 17:19 ` Nick Piggin 2010-05-25 17:35 ` Pekka Enberg 2010-05-25 17:35 ` Pekka Enberg 2010-05-25 17:40 ` Nick Piggin 2010-05-25 17:40 ` Nick Piggin 2010-05-25 10:07 ` David Rientjes 2010-05-25 10:07 ` David Rientjes 2010-05-25 10:02 ` David Rientjes 2010-05-25 10:02 ` David Rientjes 2010-05-25 10:47 ` Pekka Enberg 2010-05-25 10:47 ` Pekka Enberg 2010-05-25 19:57 ` David Rientjes 2010-05-25 19:57 ` David Rientjes 2010-05-25 14:13 ` Christoph Lameter 2010-05-25 14:34 ` Nick Piggin 2010-05-25 14:43 ` Nick Piggin 2010-05-25 14:48 ` Christoph Lameter 2010-05-25 15:11 ` Nick Piggin 2010-05-25 15:28 ` Christoph Lameter 2010-05-25 15:37 ` Nick Piggin 2010-05-27 14:24 ` Christoph Lameter 2010-05-27 14:37 ` Nick Piggin 2010-05-27 15:52 ` Christoph Lameter 2010-05-27 16:07 ` Nick Piggin 2010-05-27 16:57 ` Christoph Lameter 2010-05-28 8:39 ` Nick Piggin 2010-05-25 14:40 ` Nick Piggin 2010-05-25 14:48 ` Christoph Lameter 2010-05-25 15:12 ` Nick Piggin
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