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From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
To: Dave Young <hidave.darkstar@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	"M. Vefa Bicakci" <bicave@superonline.com>,
	stable@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vmscan: check all_unreclaimable in direct reclaim path
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 01:20:56 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTimzidMtKs073bxrYz8GsenRNuAAnQMy7a=FS5Sf@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=4kwu0Y5-MDye3TD+zZiku62NtNCMtWLn==p12@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, Dave.

On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Dave Young <hidave.darkstar@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 6:19 AM, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>> On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 00:45:27 +0900
>> Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> +static inline bool zone_reclaimable(struct zone *zone)
>>> +{
>>> +     return zone->pages_scanned < zone_reclaimable_pages(zone) * 6;
>>> +}
>>> +
>>> +static inline bool all_unreclaimable(struct zonelist *zonelist,
>>> +             struct scan_control *sc)
>>> +{
>>> +     struct zoneref *z;
>>> +     struct zone *zone;
>>> +     bool all_unreclaimable = true;
>>> +
>>> +     if (!scanning_global_lru(sc))
>>> +             return false;
>>> +
>>> +     for_each_zone_zonelist_nodemask(zone, z, zonelist,
>>> +                     gfp_zone(sc->gfp_mask), sc->nodemask) {
>>> +             if (!populated_zone(zone))
>>> +                     continue;
>>> +             if (!cpuset_zone_allowed_hardwall(zone, GFP_KERNEL))
>>> +                     continue;
>>> +             if (zone_reclaimable(zone)) {
>>> +                     all_unreclaimable = false;
>>> +                     break;
>>> +             }
>>> +     }
>>> +
>>>       return all_unreclaimable;
>>>  }
>>
>> Could we have some comments over these functions please?  Why they
>> exist, what problem they solve, how they solve them, etc.  Stuff which
>> will be needed for maintaining this code three years from now.
>>
>> We may as well remove the `inline's too.  gcc will tkae care of that.
>>
>>> -             if (nr_slab == 0 &&
>>> -                zone->pages_scanned >= (zone_reclaimable_pages(zone) * 6))
>>> +             if (nr_slab == 0 && !zone_reclaimable(zone))
>>
>> Extra marks for working out and documenting how we decided on the value
>> of "6".  Sigh.  It's hopefully in the git record somewhere.
>
> Here it is (necessary to add additional comment?):
>
> commit 4ff1ffb4870b007b86f21e5f27eeb11498c4c077
> Author: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
> Date:   Mon Sep 25 23:31:28 2006 -0700
>
>    [PATCH] oom: reclaim_mapped on oom
>
>    Potentially it takes several scans of the lru lists before we can even start
>    reclaiming pages.
>
>    mapped pages, with young ptes can take 2 passes on the active list + one on
>    the inactive list.  But reclaim_mapped may not always kick in
> instantly, so it
>    could take even more than that.
>
>    Raise the threshold for marking a zone as all_unreclaimable from a
> factor of 4
>    time the pages in the zone to 6.  Introduce a mechanism to force
>    reclaim_mapped if we've reached a factor 3 and still haven't made progress.
>
>    Previously, a customer doing stress testing was able to easily OOM the box
>    after using only a small fraction of its swap (~100MB).  After the
> patches, it
>    would only OOM after having used up all swap (~800MB).
>
>>
>> --
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>>
>
>
>
> --
> Regards
> dave
>



-- 
Kind regards,
Minchan Kim

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From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
To: Dave Young <hidave.darkstar@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	"M. Vefa Bicakci" <bicave@superonline.com>,
	stable@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vmscan: check all_unreclaimable in direct reclaim path
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 01:20:56 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTimzidMtKs073bxrYz8GsenRNuAAnQMy7a=FS5Sf@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=4kwu0Y5-MDye3TD+zZiku62NtNCMtWLn==p12@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, Dave.

On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Dave Young <hidave.darkstar@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 6:19 AM, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>> On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 00:45:27 +0900
>> Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> +static inline bool zone_reclaimable(struct zone *zone)
>>> +{
>>> +     return zone->pages_scanned < zone_reclaimable_pages(zone) * 6;
>>> +}
>>> +
>>> +static inline bool all_unreclaimable(struct zonelist *zonelist,
>>> +             struct scan_control *sc)
>>> +{
>>> +     struct zoneref *z;
>>> +     struct zone *zone;
>>> +     bool all_unreclaimable = true;
>>> +
>>> +     if (!scanning_global_lru(sc))
>>> +             return false;
>>> +
>>> +     for_each_zone_zonelist_nodemask(zone, z, zonelist,
>>> +                     gfp_zone(sc->gfp_mask), sc->nodemask) {
>>> +             if (!populated_zone(zone))
>>> +                     continue;
>>> +             if (!cpuset_zone_allowed_hardwall(zone, GFP_KERNEL))
>>> +                     continue;
>>> +             if (zone_reclaimable(zone)) {
>>> +                     all_unreclaimable = false;
>>> +                     break;
>>> +             }
>>> +     }
>>> +
>>>       return all_unreclaimable;
>>>  }
>>
>> Could we have some comments over these functions please?  Why they
>> exist, what problem they solve, how they solve them, etc.  Stuff which
>> will be needed for maintaining this code three years from now.
>>
>> We may as well remove the `inline's too.  gcc will tkae care of that.
>>
>>> -             if (nr_slab == 0 &&
>>> -                zone->pages_scanned >= (zone_reclaimable_pages(zone) * 6))
>>> +             if (nr_slab == 0 && !zone_reclaimable(zone))
>>
>> Extra marks for working out and documenting how we decided on the value
>> of "6".  Sigh.  It's hopefully in the git record somewhere.
>
> Here it is (necessary to add additional comment?):
>
> commit 4ff1ffb4870b007b86f21e5f27eeb11498c4c077
> Author: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
> Date:   Mon Sep 25 23:31:28 2006 -0700
>
>    [PATCH] oom: reclaim_mapped on oom
>
>    Potentially it takes several scans of the lru lists before we can even start
>    reclaiming pages.
>
>    mapped pages, with young ptes can take 2 passes on the active list + one on
>    the inactive list.  But reclaim_mapped may not always kick in
> instantly, so it
>    could take even more than that.
>
>    Raise the threshold for marking a zone as all_unreclaimable from a
> factor of 4
>    time the pages in the zone to 6.  Introduce a mechanism to force
>    reclaim_mapped if we've reached a factor 3 and still haven't made progress.
>
>    Previously, a customer doing stress testing was able to easily OOM the box
>    after using only a small fraction of its swap (~100MB).  After the
> patches, it
>    would only OOM after having used up all swap (~800MB).
>
>>
>> --
>> To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in
>> the body to majordomo@kvack.org.  For more info on Linux MM,
>> see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ .
>> Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@kvack.org"> email@kvack.org </a>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Regards
> dave
>



-- 
Kind regards,
Minchan Kim

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-09-12 16:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-05 14:40 [PATCH] vmscan: check all_unreclaimable in direct reclaim path Minchan Kim
2010-09-05 14:40 ` Minchan Kim
2010-09-05 22:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-09-05 22:30   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-09-08  5:48 ` Johannes Weiner
2010-09-08  5:48   ` Johannes Weiner
2010-09-08 15:45   ` Minchan Kim
2010-09-08 15:45     ` Minchan Kim
2010-09-08 22:19     ` Andrew Morton
2010-09-08 22:19       ` Andrew Morton
2010-09-10  8:24       ` Dave Young
2010-09-10  8:24         ` Dave Young
2010-09-12 16:20         ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2010-09-12 16:20           ` Minchan Kim
2010-09-12 16:20       ` Minchan Kim
2010-09-12 16:20         ` Minchan Kim

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