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From: Parav Pandit <parav@mellanox.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <jakub.kicinski@netronome.com>,
	Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
Cc: "davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"oss-drivers@netronome.com" <oss-drivers@netronome.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH net-next v2 4/7] devlink: allow subports on devlink PCI ports
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2019 03:56:52 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AM4PR0501MB22605323A41FC6D015894897D14C0@AM4PR0501MB2260.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190306095638.7c028bdd@cakuba.hsd1.ca.comcast.net>

Hi Jakub,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: netdev-owner@vger.kernel.org <netdev-owner@vger.kernel.org> On
> Behalf Of Jakub Kicinski
> Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2019 11:57 AM
> To: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
> Cc: davem@davemloft.net; netdev@vger.kernel.org; oss-
> drivers@netronome.com
> Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 4/7] devlink: allow subports on devlink PCI
> ports
> 
> On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 13:20:37 +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> > Tue, Mar 05, 2019 at 06:15:34PM CET, jakub.kicinski@netronome.com
> wrote:
> > >On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 12:06:01 +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> > >> >> >as ports.  Can we invent a new command (say "partition"?) that'd
> take
> > >> >> >the bus info where the partition is to be spawned?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Got it. But the question is how different this object would be from
> the
> > >> >> existing "port" we have today.
> > >> >
> > >> >They'd be where "the other side of a PCI link" is represented,
> > >> >restricting ports to only ASIC's forwarding plane ports.
> > >>
> > >> Basically a "host port", right? It can still be the same port
> > >> object, only with different flavour and attributes. So we would have:
> > >>
> > >> 1) pci/0000:05:00.0/0: type eth netdev enp5s0np0
> > >>                        flavour physical switch_id 00154d130d2f
> > >> 2) pci/0000:05:00.0/10000: type eth netdev enp5s0npf0s0
> > >>                            flavour pci_pf pf 0 subport 0
> > >>                            switch_id 00154d130d2f
> > >>                            peer pci/0000:05:00.0/1
> > >> 3) pci/0000:05:00.0/10001: type eth netdev enp5s0npf0vf0
> > >>                            flavour pci_vf pf 0 vf 0
> > >>                            switch_id 00154d130d2f
> > >>                            peer pci/0000:05:10.1/0
> > >> 4) pci/0000:05:00.0/10001: type eth netdev enp5s0npf0s1
> > >>                            flavour pci_pf pf 0 subport 1
> > >>                            switch_id 00154d130d2f
> > >>                            peer pci/0000:05:00.0/2
> > >> 5) pci/0000:05:00.0/1: type eth netdev enp5s0f0??
> > >>                        flavour host          <----------------
> > >>                        peer pci/0000:05:00.0/10000
> > >> 6) pci/0000:05:10.1/0: type eth netdev enp5s10f0
> > >>                        flavour host          <----------------
> > >>                        peer pci/0000:05:00.0/10001
> > >> 7) pci/0000:05:00.0/2: type eth netdev enp5s0f0??
> > >>                        flavour host          <----------------
> > >>                        peer pci/0000:05:00.0/10001
> > >>
> > >> I think it looks quite clear, it gives complete topology view.
> > >
> > >Okay, I have some of questions :)
> > >
> > >What do we use for port_index?
> >
> > That is just a number totally in control of the driver. Driver can
> > assign it in any way.
> >
> > >
> > >What are the operations one can perform on "host ports"?
> >
> > That is a good question. I would start with *none* and extend it upon
> > needs.
> >
> >
> > >
> > >If we have PCI parameters, do they get set on the ASIC side of the
> > >port or the host side of the port?
> >
> > Could you give me an example?
> 
> Let's take msix_vec_per_pf_min as an example.
> 
> > But I believe that on switch-port side.
> 
> Ok.
> 
> > >How do those behave when device is passed to VM?
> >
> > In case of VF? VF will have separate devlink instance (separate
> > handle, probably "aliased" to the PF handle). So it would disappear
> > from baremetal and appear in VM:
> > $ devlink dev
> > pci/0000:00:10.0
> > $ devlink dev port
> > pci/0000:00:10.1/0: type eth netdev enp5s10f0
> >                     flavour host
> > That's it for the VM.
> >
> > There's no linkage (peer, alias) between this and the instances on
> > baremetal.
> 
> Ok, I guess this is the main advantage from your perspective?
> The fact that "host ports" are visible inside a VM?
> Or do you believe that having both ends of a pipe as ports makes the
> topology easier to understand?
> 
> For creating subdevices, I don't think the handle should ever be port.

I updated the proposal [1], haven't sent updated (reduced) RFC patches yet.
subdevices are created using already existing 'mdev' framework.
You also mentioned in one of the past email discussion.
These subdevices live on 'mdev' bus.

Handle for creating this subdev is its parent PCI device.
Mdev framework exposes bunch of sysfs files for these work.

vendors who wish to get it connected in switchdev mode,
(I guest most of the current switchdev drivers),
will be creating mdev device and associated devlink instance (and port).

This way, created subdev can be provisioned for VM or on host itself using unified scheme.
subdev's parameters, its hostport, its switchport (rep-netdev) 
can be controlled similar to VFs.

[1] https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org/msg1948602.html

  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-07  4:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-01 18:04 [PATCH net-next v2 0/7] devlink: expose PF and VF representors as ports Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-01 18:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/7] nfp: split devlink port init from registration Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-01 18:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/7] devlink: add PF and VF port flavours Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-01 18:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/7] nfp: register devlink ports of all reprs Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-02  8:43   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-02 19:07     ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-04  7:36       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-04 23:32         ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-01 18:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 4/7] devlink: allow subports on devlink PCI ports Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-02  9:41   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-02 19:48     ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-04  7:56       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-05  0:33         ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-05 11:06           ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-05 17:15             ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-05 19:59               ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-06 12:20               ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-06 17:56                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-07  3:56                   ` Parav Pandit [this message]
2019-03-07  9:48                   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-08  2:52                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-08 14:54                       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-08 19:09                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-11  8:52                           ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-12  2:10                             ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-12 14:02                               ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-12 20:56                                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-13  6:07                                   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-13 16:17                                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-13 16:22                                       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-13 16:55                                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-14  7:38                                           ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-14 22:09                                             ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-14 22:35                                               ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-14 23:39                                                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-15  1:28                                                   ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-15  1:31                                                     ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-15  2:15                                                     ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2019-03-15  2:40                                                       ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                                                         ` <ae938b4f-5fa9-3c33-8ae6-eab2d3d9f1ec@intel.com>
2019-03-15 15:32                                                           ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-15 20:08                                                             ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-15 20:44                                                               ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-15 22:12                                                                 ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-16  1:16                                                                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-18 15:43                                                                     ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-18 19:29                                                                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-18 12:11                                                                 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-18 19:16                                                                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-21  8:45                                                                     ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-21 15:14                                                                       ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-21 16:14                                                                         ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-21 16:52                                                                           ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-21 17:20                                                                             ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-21 17:34                                                                               ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-22 16:27                                                                                 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-23  0:37                                                                                   ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-15 21:59                                                               ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-18 12:21                                                                 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-18 15:56                                                                   ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-18 16:22                                                                     ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-18 19:36                                                                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-18 19:44                                                                         ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-18 19:59                                                                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-18 20:35                                                                             ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-18 21:29                                                                               ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-18 22:11                                                                                 ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-20 18:24                                                                                   ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-20 20:22                                                                                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-20 23:39                                                                                       ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-21  9:08                                                                                       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-21 15:03                                                                                         ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-21 16:16                                                                                           ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-21 16:50                                                                                             ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-21 17:23                                                                                               ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-21 17:42                                                                                                 ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-22 13:32                                                                                                   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-23  0:40                                                                                                     ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-25 20:34                                                                                                       ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-18 19:19                                                                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-18 19:38                                                                     ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-21  9:09                                                                     ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-15  7:00                                               ` Jiri Pirko
     [not found]                                 ` <7227d58e-ac58-d549-b921-ca0a0dd3f4b0@intel.com>
2019-03-13  7:37                                   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-13 16:03                                     ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2019-03-13 16:24                                       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-04 11:19       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-05  0:40         ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-05 11:07           ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-04 11:08   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-05  0:51     ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-05 11:09       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-01 18:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 5/7] nfp: switch to devlink_port_get_phys_port_name() Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-01 18:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 6/7] devlink: introduce port's peer netdevs Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-01 18:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 7/7] nfp: expose PF " Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-02 10:13 ` [PATCH net-next v2 0/7] devlink: expose PF and VF representors as ports Jiri Pirko
2019-03-02 19:49   ` [oss-drivers] " Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-04  5:12   ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-04 18:22 ` David Miller
2019-03-20 20:25 ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-21  9:11   ` Jiri Pirko

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