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From: Andrei Warkentin <andreiw@motorola.com>
To: "Gao, Yunpeng" <yunpeng.gao@intel.com>
Cc: "linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"arnd@arndb.de" <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"cjb@laptop.org" <cjb@laptop.org>
Subject: Re: SET_BLOCK_COUNT-bounded multiblock transfers
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 17:58:45 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTikDaPq56UBkNtmKApBXZ6dgMKgo6Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CE761E84DADF2947A4AF22FB8D97A473571F5610@shsmsx501.ccr.corp.intel.com>

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 4:05 AM, Gao, Yunpeng <yunpeng.gao@intel.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for add me in the loop. I'm fine with the 3 patches.
>
> And just think that maybe it's not necessary to enable the Auto-CMD23 for SDHCI,
> because I have an impression that some Silicon bugs related to Auto-CMD12/Auto-CMD23
> existed in some vendor's SDHCI host controller IP, and I'm not sure they have been fixed or not by now.
>

That's why I didn't send a patch for that :-). When I get some SDHCI
silicon with working Auto-CMD12/Auto-CMD23 I'll come back to that
code path.

I actually thought about this some more and I decided to decouple
CMD23 support and CMD23 use for multiblock writes. Will add a new
md->flags bit.
This will allow cards where for whatever reason CMD23-bounded
transfers are slower to use CMD12 instead, while retaining CMD23 use
for things like reliable writes and all those other features you've
mentioned that are in the still not public eMMC 4.5.

The question to Arnd and Chris - should by default use of CMD23 for
multiblock writes be disabled, and enabled per known-good card using
add_flag quirk support? Or should CMD23 for multiblock writes be
enabled by default, and then disabled for known-bad cards?

First approach is safer from the point of view of regressions. People
who upgrade to 2.6.40 won't suddenly see worse I/O performance if they
have some silicon bugs or if use of CMD23 nullifies some internal
optimizations for sequential writes. On the other hand, at some point
hopefully everybody fixes their silicon such that CMD23 always means
better performance.

Thoughts?
A

  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-14 22:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-14  0:38 SET_BLOCK_COUNT-bounded multiblock transfers Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-14  0:03 ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-14  9:05   ` Gao, Yunpeng
2011-04-14 22:58     ` Andrei Warkentin [this message]
2011-04-14 23:18       ` Chris Ball
2011-04-15  7:10         ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-15 17:29           ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-14  0:38 ` [RFC 1/3] MMC: use CMD23 for multiblock transfers when we can Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-14  0:38 ` [RFC 2/3] MMC: Implement MMC_CAP_CMD23 for SDHCI Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-14  0:38 ` [RFC 3/3] MMC: Block CMD23 support for UHS104/SDXC cards Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-15 23:51 ` [patchv2 1/3] MMC: Use CMD23 for multiblock transfers when we can Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-15 23:51 ` [patchv2 2/3] MMC: Implement MMC_CAP_CMD23 for SDHCI Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-15 23:51 ` [patchv2 3/3] MMC: Block CMD23 support for UHS104/SDXC cards Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-16 10:40 ` CMD23 plumbing and support patchset Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-21  1:44   ` Chris Ball
2011-04-21  6:29     ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-21  6:30       ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-22  3:53         ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-23  2:51           ` Chris Ball
2011-04-26 23:30             ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-27  2:10   ` CMD23 plumbing patchset Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-27  2:10     ` [[v4] 1/5] MMC: Add/remove quirks conditional support Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-27  2:10       ` [[v4] 2/5] MMC: Use CMD23 for multiblock transfers when we can Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-27  2:10         ` [[v4] 3/5] MMC: Implement MMC_CAP_CMD23 for SDHCI Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-27  2:10           ` [[v4] 4/5] MMC: Block CMD23 support for UHS104/SDXC cards Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-27  2:10             ` [[v4] 5/5] MMC: SDHCI AutoCMD23 support Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-27  5:49               ` Nath, Arindam
2011-04-27  5:59                 ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-27  6:02                   ` Nath, Arindam
2011-04-27  6:05                     ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-28  8:34                       ` Nath, Arindam
2011-04-28 19:09                         ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-29  5:34                           ` Nath, Arindam
2011-05-19  2:37         ` [[v4] 2/5] MMC: Use CMD23 for multiblock transfers when we can Jaehoon Chung
2011-05-19 17:01           ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-20  4:38             ` Jaehoon Chung
     [not found]               ` <BANLkTik72KgftDWz6aNn=zGDqj1uMpwnYw@mail.gmail.com>
2011-05-20  6:54                 ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-20  9:05                   ` Jaehoon Chung
2011-05-23 12:40                   ` Jaehoon Chung
2011-05-23 19:25                     ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-23 19:33                       ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-23 19:34                     ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-23 20:45                       ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-24  0:07                       ` Jaehoon Chung
2011-04-29 23:25     ` CMD23 plumbing patchset Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-19 21:46     ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-23 20:06       ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-25  2:51         ` Chris Ball
2011-05-23 20:06       ` [v6 1/5] MMC: Add/remove quirks conditional support Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-23 20:06       ` [v6 2/5] MMC: Use CMD23 for multiblock transfers when we can Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-23 20:06       ` [v6 3/5] MMC: Implement MMC_CAP_CMD23 for SDHCI Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-23 20:06       ` [v6 4/5] MMC: Block CMD23 support for UHS104/SDXC cards Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-24  6:01         ` Nath, Arindam
2011-05-23 20:06       ` [v6 5/5] MMC: SDHCI AutoCMD23 support Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-24 23:27         ` Chris Ball
2011-05-25  0:37           ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-19 21:46     ` [v5 1/5] MMC: Add/remove quirks conditional support Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-19 21:46     ` [v5 2/5] MMC: Use CMD23 for multiblock transfers when we can Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-20 10:29       ` Jaehoon Chung
2011-05-20 18:12         ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-19 21:46     ` [v5 3/5] MMC: Implement MMC_CAP_CMD23 for SDHCI Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-19 21:46     ` [v5 4/5] MMC: Block CMD23 support for UHS104/SDXC cards Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-20 10:38       ` Nath, Arindam
2011-05-20 18:09         ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-19 21:46     ` [v5 5/5] MMC: SDHCI AutoCMD23 support Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-20 10:46       ` Nath, Arindam
2011-05-20 18:08         ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-16 10:40 ` [patchv3 1/5] MMC: Add/remove quirks conditional support Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-16 10:40 ` [patchv3 2/5] MMC: Use CMD23 for multiblock transfers when we can Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-17 17:23   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-17 19:27     ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-19  3:44     ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-19  7:39       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-19 15:18         ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-16 10:40 ` [patchv3 3/5] MMC: Implement MMC_CAP_CMD23 for SDHCI Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-16 10:40 ` [patchv3 4/5] MMC: Block CMD23 support for UHS104/SDXC cards Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-16 16:19   ` Nath, Arindam
2011-04-16 23:00     ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-16 23:38   ` [PATCH] " Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-16 10:40 ` [patchv3 5/5] MMC: SDHCI AutoCMD23 support Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-17 17:25   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-17 19:31     ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-19  3:05       ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-19  3:19         ` Nath, Arindam
2011-04-19  3:32           ` Andrei Warkentin

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