toolchain mitigations plumbers session

toolchain mitigations plumbers session

[Nick Desaulniers]

Hi Qing, Kees, and Bill,
Jose and I are currently in the planning process to put together a
Kernel+Toolchain microconference track at Linux Plumbers Conference
this year (Sept 12-14) in Dublin, Ireland.

Would you all be interested in leading another session on
kernel+toolchain collaboration for mitigations? Do you plan to attend
plumbers this year which will be in person?
-- 
Thanks,
~Nick Desaulniers

Re: toolchain mitigations plumbers session

[Bill Wendling]

On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 2:30 PM Nick Desaulniers
<ndesaulniers@google.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Qing, Kees, and Bill,
> Jose and I are currently in the planning process to put together a
> Kernel+Toolchain microconference track at Linux Plumbers Conference
> this year (Sept 12-14) in Dublin, Ireland.
>
> Would you all be interested in leading another session on
> kernel+toolchain collaboration for mitigations? Do you plan to attend
> plumbers this year which will be in person?

I'll be in Dublin during that time, so yes to both questions.

-bw

Re: toolchain mitigations plumbers session

[Kees Cook]

On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 02:30:33PM -0700, Nick Desaulniers wrote:
> Hi Qing, Kees, and Bill,
> Jose and I are currently in the planning process to put together a
> Kernel+Toolchain microconference track at Linux Plumbers Conference
> this year (Sept 12-14) in Dublin, Ireland.
> 
> Would you all be interested in leading another session on
> kernel+toolchain collaboration for mitigations?

Yes please! With work Qing and Bill (and Sami and Joao and others) have
been doing lately, this session will have a lot of new stuff to talk
about!

> Do you plan to attend
> plumbers this year which will be in person?

Yes, my current intention is to attend plumbers in person this year.
However, I reserve the right to shake the magic covid 8-ball again as
we get closer to September. :)

-Kees

-- 
Kees Cook

Re: toolchain mitigations plumbers session

[Qing Zhao]

Hi, Nick,

> On Apr 14, 2022, at 4:30 PM, Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Qing, Kees, and Bill,
> Jose and I are currently in the planning process to put together a
> Kernel+Toolchain microconference track at Linux Plumbers Conference
> this year (Sept 12-14) in Dublin, Ireland.
> 
> Would you all be interested in leading another session on
> kernel+toolchain collaboration for mitigations? Do you plan to attend
> plumbers this year which will be in person?

I’d love to attend  plumbers this year to meet people in person!
But not sure whether there will be enough new, big stuff to report this year since mostly bunch of bug fixes and minor 
Improvements to the previous work.

Qing

> -- 
> Thanks,
> ~Nick Desaulniers

Re: toolchain mitigations plumbers session

[Nick Desaulniers]

On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 7:50 AM Qing Zhao <qing.zhao@oracle.com> wrote:
>
> Hi, Nick,
>
> > On Apr 14, 2022, at 4:30 PM, Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Qing, Kees, and Bill,
> > Jose and I are currently in the planning process to put together a
> > Kernel+Toolchain microconference track at Linux Plumbers Conference
> > this year (Sept 12-14) in Dublin, Ireland.
> >
> > Would you all be interested in leading another session on
> > kernel+toolchain collaboration for mitigations? Do you plan to attend
> > plumbers this year which will be in person?
>
> I’d love to attend  plumbers this year to meet people in person!
> But not sure whether there will be enough new, big stuff to report this year since mostly bunch of bug fixes and minor
> Improvements to the previous work.

No worries; it doesn't need to be a presentation, or just one person
presenting.  I think a quick review of newly developed features from
various authors, then a discussion with consumers (kernel developers)
would be beneficial.
-- 
Thanks,
~Nick Desaulniers

Re: toolchain mitigations plumbers session

[Kees Cook]

On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 10:17:46AM -0700, Nick Desaulniers wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 7:50 AM Qing Zhao <qing.zhao@oracle.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, Nick,
> >
> > > On Apr 14, 2022, at 4:30 PM, Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Qing, Kees, and Bill,
> > > Jose and I are currently in the planning process to put together a
> > > Kernel+Toolchain microconference track at Linux Plumbers Conference
> > > this year (Sept 12-14) in Dublin, Ireland.
> > >
> > > Would you all be interested in leading another session on
> > > kernel+toolchain collaboration for mitigations? Do you plan to attend
> > > plumbers this year which will be in person?
> >
> > I’d love to attend  plumbers this year to meet people in person!
> > But not sure whether there will be enough new, big stuff to report this year since mostly bunch of bug fixes and minor
> > Improvements to the previous work.
> 
> No worries; it doesn't need to be a presentation, or just one person
> presenting.  I think a quick review of newly developed features from
> various authors, then a discussion with consumers (kernel developers)
> would be beneficial.

Yeah, this kind of overview is what I've been doing the last few years
(with Qing last year):

https://outflux.net/slides/2021/lpc/compiler-security-features.pdf
https://outflux.net/slides/2020/lpc/gcc-and-clang-security-feature-parity.pdf
https://outflux.net/slides/2019/lpc/gcc-and-clang.pdf

-- 
Kees Cook

Re: toolchain mitigations plumbers session

[Qing Zhao]

> On Apr 15, 2022, at 12:17 PM, Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 7:50 AM Qing Zhao <qing.zhao@oracle.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, Nick,
>> 
>>> On Apr 14, 2022, at 4:30 PM, Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Qing, Kees, and Bill,
>>> Jose and I are currently in the planning process to put together a
>>> Kernel+Toolchain microconference track at Linux Plumbers Conference
>>> this year (Sept 12-14) in Dublin, Ireland.
>>> 
>>> Would you all be interested in leading another session on
>>> kernel+toolchain collaboration for mitigations? Do you plan to attend
>>> plumbers this year which will be in person?
>> 
>> I’d love to attend  plumbers this year to meet people in person!
>> But not sure whether there will be enough new, big stuff to report this year since mostly bunch of bug fixes and minor
>> Improvements to the previous work.
> 
> No worries; it doesn't need to be a presentation, or just one person
> presenting.  I think a quick review of newly developed features from
> various authors, then a discussion with consumers (kernel developers)
> would be beneficial.

Sounds good to me.

Qing
> -- 
> Thanks,
> ~Nick Desaulniers