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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mateusz Guzik <mguzik@redhat.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Kay Sievers <kay@vrfy.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] cmdline: Hide "debug" from /proc/cmdline
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 11:32:17 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFxC_+zCD8BQ637WJLf2VXWjhJOQB7uUkVARneSKsQ2+Hg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <533EF832.1030902@mit.edu>

On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote:
>
> The other thing I've used /dev/kmsg for is to shove a "I'm starting
> something now" message in.  This is only really necessary because the
> current kernel log timestamps are unusable crap.  (We could fix that,
> hint hint.)

I'd actually love to fix that, but I disagree with the "we could fix
it". There are tons of people who know how to parse them (admittedly
often only to ignore them), so changing the format is not likely to
work.

The good news is that "dmesg -H" does help if you're human. While at
the same time being an example of that very "there are tools that know
about the current horrid format" issue.. D'oh.

             Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-04 18:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-02 18:42 [RFC PATCH] cmdline: Hide "debug" from /proc/cmdline Steven Rostedt
2014-04-02 18:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-02 19:04 ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-02 19:05   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-04-02 19:08   ` Randy Dunlap
2014-04-02 19:50   ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-04-02 20:05     ` Richard Weinberger
2014-04-02 20:43       ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-04-02 22:18   ` Greg KH
2014-04-02 19:08 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-04-02 19:33   ` Steven Rostedt
2014-04-02 22:12 ` Mateusz Guzik
2014-04-02 22:30   ` David Daney
2014-04-02 22:37   ` Greg KH
2014-04-02 23:13   ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-02 23:23     ` Jiri Kosina
2014-04-02 23:28       ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-02 23:42         ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-02 23:47           ` Jiri Kosina
2014-04-02 23:52             ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-02 23:57               ` Jiri Kosina
2014-04-03  1:38               ` Steven Rostedt
2014-04-03  1:47               ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-03  9:03                 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-04-03 10:43                 ` Joerg Roedel
2014-04-03 17:05                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-04-03 17:09                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-03 17:18                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-04-03 19:19                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-04 18:21                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-04 18:32                       ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2014-04-04 18:57                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-04 19:09                           ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-04 21:17                         ` John Stoffel
2014-04-04 23:17                           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-04-05 14:37                             ` John Stoffel
2014-04-05 23:23                             ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-04-04 18:42                       ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-04 18:51                         ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-04 18:57                           ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-06 20:49                             ` David Timothy Strauss
2014-05-06  9:38                               ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-04 19:44                           ` Steven Rostedt
2014-04-04 20:17                             ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-04-04 22:45                               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2014-04-04 22:48                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-04 19:00                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-03 11:23                 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-04-03 11:38                   ` Ingo Molnar
2014-04-15  7:26                 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-04-03 10:34               ` Måns Rullgård
2014-04-03 11:03                 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-04-06 17:19                   ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-05-06  9:47                   ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-02 23:47           ` Joe Perches
2014-04-02 23:31       ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-03 11:25       ` Måns Rullgård
2014-04-03 15:17         ` Tim Bird
2014-04-03 18:06           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-05-06  9:35             ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-07  4:54     ` Rusty Russell
2014-05-02 22:34       ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-05  2:17         ` Rusty Russell
2014-05-05 13:15           ` Randy Dunlap
2014-05-06  0:57             ` Rusty Russell
2014-05-19  8:06               ` Diego Viola
2014-05-19  8:11                 ` Diego Viola
2014-05-19 14:40                   ` Randy Dunlap
2014-05-20  1:26                     ` Rusty Russell
2014-05-20  6:26                       ` Diego Viola
2014-05-21  1:52                         ` Rusty Russell
2014-04-03  0:49   ` Steven Rostedt
2014-04-23 15:15 Borislav Petkov
2014-04-23 20:44 ` Borislav Petkov

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