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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Kay Sievers <kay@vrfy.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartmann <greg@kroah.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND 1/3] printk: convert byte-buffer to variable-length record buffer
Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 09:47:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFxUaNC4SGEodrdddkDN6t=Sbx=P4XyaHkj7eTQBQOeLeA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1336667984.947.24.camel@mop>

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Kay Sievers <kay@vrfy.org> wrote:
>
> All the special rules are gone. KERN_CONT is the same as KERN_DEFAULT
> now.

That's wrong.

Key, KERN_CONT and KERN_DEFAULT really are different and have
fundamentally different semantics. The fact that you think they aren't
shows that you don't understand it.

Your "current" check doesn't change anything.

There are two main and important differences:

 - people can avoid using '\n' if they know the next printk will have
a KERN_xxx marker (xxx != CONT).

   This is often useful for having loops that print out individual
entries all on the same line - print all of them without the '\n'.

   The printk afterwards will automatically start a new line if it has
KERN_DEFAULT.

   If you make KERN_CONT and KERN_DEFAULT the same, it is a BUG. Don't do it.

 - You don't seem to realize that interrupts are threaded events too,
but they will happen with the same task-struct.

   An interrupt that prints out with KERN_DEFAULT had better not act
the same way as KERN_CONT.

So dammit, just stop trying to get rid of KERN_CONT or KERN_DEFAULT.
They are both real, and they are both *different*. If you think they
are the same, you are WRONG.

Don't try to change the rules because you think you are "clever".
You're only making things worse.

                       Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-10 16:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-03  0:29 [PATCH RESEND 1/3] printk: convert byte-buffer to variable-length record buffer Kay Sievers
2012-05-03 19:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-05-03 19:54   ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-03 19:55     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-05-03 19:56   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-05-03 20:02     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-05-03 20:09       ` Linus Torvalds
2012-05-03 20:11         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-05-03 20:18           ` Greg Kroah-Hartmann
2012-05-08  8:48 ` Sasha Levin
2012-05-08 11:14   ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-08 13:33     ` Sasha Levin
2012-05-08 14:29       ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-08 15:33         ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-08 15:57           ` Sasha Levin
2012-05-08 16:27             ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-08 22:57               ` Greg Kroah-Hartmann
2012-05-09  3:52     ` Linus Torvalds
2012-05-09  4:06       ` Joe Perches
2012-05-09  4:11       ` Sasha Levin
2012-05-09  4:27         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-05-09  4:36           ` Linus Torvalds
2012-05-09  7:07             ` Ingo Molnar
2012-05-09 13:21               ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-09 13:29               ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-10  0:54                 ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-10  1:18                   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-05-10  2:32                     ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-10  2:46                       ` Joe Perches
2012-05-10 16:39                     ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-10 16:47                       ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2012-05-10 18:49                         ` Tony Luck
2012-05-10 19:09                         ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-10 20:14                           ` Ted Ts'o
2012-05-10 20:37                             ` Joe Perches
2012-05-10 20:39                               ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-10 20:46                                 ` Joe Perches
2012-05-10 20:52                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-05-10 21:11                                     ` Joe Perches
2012-05-10 21:15                                       ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-10 21:58                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2012-05-11  0:13                                         ` Joe Perches
2012-05-11  0:38                                     ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-11  1:23                                       ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-14 18:46                                         ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-10 21:01                                   ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-10 20:38                             ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-09  9:38       ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-09 13:50         ` Joe Perches
2012-05-09 14:37           ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-09 23:02             ` Yinghai Lu
2012-05-09 23:06               ` Greg Kroah-Hartmann
2012-05-10  2:30                 ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-11 10:35                   ` Sasha Levin
2012-05-11 15:19                     ` Greg KH
2012-05-11 15:22                       ` Sasha Levin
2012-05-11 15:35                       ` Linus Torvalds
2012-05-11 15:40                         ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-11 15:47                           ` Linus Torvalds
2012-05-11 19:51                             ` Mark Lord
2012-05-11 20:02                               ` Linus Torvalds
2012-05-12 18:04                                 ` Mark Lord
2012-05-12  7:43                             ` Sasha Levin
2012-05-12 18:35                               ` Linus Torvalds
2012-05-13 11:08                                 ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-13 13:22                                 ` Mark Lord
2012-05-13 18:01                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-05-13 22:19                                     ` Mark Lord
2012-05-14 16:40                                   ` valdis.kletnieks
2012-05-17  3:44                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-05-13 21:48                               ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-13 21:30                     ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-26 11:11 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-27 14:23   ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-29 16:07     ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-29 16:14       ` Joe Perches
2012-05-29 16:34         ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-29 16:51           ` Joe Perches
2012-05-29 17:11       ` Luck, Tony
2012-05-29 17:22         ` Kay Sievers
2012-05-30 11:29           ` Kay Sievers
2012-06-06  6:33       ` Greg Kroah-Hartmann
2012-06-15  0:04       ` Greg KH
2012-06-15  1:31         ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-15 12:07         ` Kay Sievers
2012-06-15 12:23           ` Ingo Molnar
2012-06-15 21:53             ` Greg KH
2012-06-15 12:23           ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-15 20:54           ` Tony Luck
2012-11-28 13:33 ` Michael Kerrisk
2012-11-28 16:22   ` Kay Sievers
2012-11-28 16:37     ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-28 16:49       ` Kay Sievers
2012-11-28 17:51         ` Kay Sievers
2012-11-29 13:18           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2012-11-29 13:28             ` Kay Sievers
2012-11-29 13:37               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2012-11-29 14:08                 ` Kay Sievers
2012-11-29 14:18                   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2012-11-29 14:31                     ` Kay Sievers

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