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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Jeremy Kerr <jk@ozlabs.org>
Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Patchwork ML <patchwork@lists.ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: [git pull] Please pull powerpc.git merge branch
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 20:06:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFzHT3NWrF6gq+BaLcZmEtrFwkiXv0_qZ0jGjxTO6-8iPQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51B53DAB.10501@ozlabs.org>

On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Jeremy Kerr <jk@ozlabs.org> wrote:
>
> We keep all patch dates in UTC, but were generating the Date header
> incorrectly. Now fixed:

No, not fixed.

Keeping patch dates in UTC *corrupts* the date.

I'll ask people to stop using patchworks if it cannot keep track of
emailed dates. The date very much is a local time WITH A TIMEZONE.

And it does matter.

> $ wget -qO - http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/249598/mbox/ | grep ^Date
> Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2013 05:42:54 -0000

No. The date from the email was

    Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 15:42:54 +1000

and we want *that* date. Not some random date that patchwork makes up
that has no relevance.

I know you have that date, because it shows up when asking for the
headers in patchwork. Just use the right one, don't make up incorrect
ones.

               Linus

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Jeremy Kerr <jk@ozlabs.org>
Cc: linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Patchwork ML <patchwork@lists.ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: [git pull] Please pull powerpc.git merge branch
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 20:06:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFzHT3NWrF6gq+BaLcZmEtrFwkiXv0_qZ0jGjxTO6-8iPQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51B53DAB.10501@ozlabs.org>

On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Jeremy Kerr <jk@ozlabs.org> wrote:
>
> We keep all patch dates in UTC, but were generating the Date header
> incorrectly. Now fixed:

No, not fixed.

Keeping patch dates in UTC *corrupts* the date.

I'll ask people to stop using patchworks if it cannot keep track of
emailed dates. The date very much is a local time WITH A TIMEZONE.

And it does matter.

> $ wget -qO - http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/249598/mbox/ | grep ^Date
> Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2013 05:42:54 -0000

No. The date from the email was

    Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 15:42:54 +1000

and we want *that* date. Not some random date that patchwork makes up
that has no relevance.

I know you have that date, because it shows up when asking for the
headers in patchwork. Just use the right one, don't make up incorrect
ones.

               Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-10  3:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 368+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-09  7:56 [git pull] Please pull powerpc.git merge branch Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-09 21:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-09 21:54   ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-10  2:44     ` Jeremy Kerr
2013-06-10  2:44       ` Jeremy Kerr
2013-06-10  3:06       ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2013-06-10  3:06         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-10  3:20         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-10  3:20           ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-10  3:36           ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-10  3:36             ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-10  4:20         ` Jeremy Kerr
2013-06-10  4:20           ` Jeremy Kerr
2013-06-10  4:24           ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-10  4:24             ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-09 22:37   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-09 22:37     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-07-28  3:46 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-07-23  4:54 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-07-11  5:44 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-06-25  6:13 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-06-16  9:48 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-06-02  0:27 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-05-28  3:29 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-05-20 23:13 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
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2014-04-28  6:52 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-09  7:23 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-09  7:23 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-01 23:34 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-02  5:27 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-03-07 21:04 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-02-28  8:45 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-02-17  1:16 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-02-12  4:34 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-01-28  4:37 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-01-28  4:37 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-01-15  5:01 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-01-15  5:01 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-01-15  8:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-01-15  8:05   ` Linus Torvalds
2014-01-15 10:28   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-01-15 10:28     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-01-13  1:15 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-12-30  4:37 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-12-16  0:57 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-12-10  1:57 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-12-10  3:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-12-10  5:39   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-11-27  2:30 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-11-21  0:34 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-11-20 23:10 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-10-03  7:54 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-25  4:39 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-11  3:22 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-27  7:32 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-09  8:17 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-02 22:28 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-01  8:40 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-07-24  7:59 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-30  4:42 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-29 23:16 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-25  7:53 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-20  7:01 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-15  3:10 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-09 22:45 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-05-31 23:22 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-05-31 23:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-05-24  9:41 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-05-14  9:57 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-05-07 10:10 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-03-18  5:17 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-03-05  6:30 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-02-04  4:22 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-01-28 23:42 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-01-29  0:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-01-29  0:09   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-01-29  2:42     ` Linus Torvalds
2013-01-29 14:14     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-01-29 14:14       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-01-03  6:13 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-01-03  6:14 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-11-25 22:07 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-11-25 22:08 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-11-25 22:16   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-11-21  4:37 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-10-18  9:23 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-10-04  8:38 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-10-04 16:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-04 20:10   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-10-04 16:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-04 20:14   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-09-05  6:12 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-09-05 21:15 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-08-24 10:59 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-08-03 13:39 Kumar Gala
2012-08-03 22:34 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-08-04 13:22   ` Kumar Gala
2012-07-31  7:33 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-27 12:44 Kumar Gala
2012-07-27  4:37 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-10  9:25 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-02  4:57 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-02 21:38 ` Gerhard Pircher
2012-07-02 22:20   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-10 18:48     ` roger blofeld
2012-06-29 20:45 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-01 10:50 ` Michael Neuling
2012-07-01 11:14   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-11 23:51 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-09  1:12 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-04-30  1:44 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-04-23  2:04 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-04-23  2:04 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-04-20  0:05 Kumar Gala
2012-04-12  3:38 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-04-02  4:39 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-02-23  4:58 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-02-17 22:36 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-02-14  6:21 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-25  3:01 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-25  3:01 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-17 22:26 Kumar Gala
2012-01-13  6:21 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-16 19:21 ` Kumar Gala
2012-01-16 19:21   ` Kumar Gala
2012-01-16 20:27   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-16 20:27     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-09 21:47 Kumar Gala
2011-12-08  7:29 Kumar Gala
2011-11-25  4:48 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-11-24  5:03 Kumar Gala
2011-11-18  3:29 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-11-08  4:21 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-11-08  4:42 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-31  6:10 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-31  3:14 Kumar Gala
2011-08-10 15:27 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-10 18:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-10 18:07   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-10 18:55   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-12  1:26 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-06-29  8:13 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-06-23  2:41 Kumar Gala
2011-06-09 20:45 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-05-27  6:55 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-05-27 12:28 ` Kumar Gala
2011-05-27 12:28   ` Kumar Gala
2011-05-26  5:22 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-05-26 14:02 ` Kumar Gala
2011-05-26 14:02   ` Kumar Gala
2011-05-26 22:20   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-05-26 22:20     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-05-20 14:35 Kumar Gala
2011-06-01 21:56 ` Tabi Timur-B04825
2011-05-20  8:06 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-05-19  4:06 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-05-19  4:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-19  4:16   ` David Miller
2011-05-19  4:16     ` David Miller
2011-05-19  5:28   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-05-19  5:32 ` Kumar Gala
2011-05-20 13:23 ` Richard Cochran
2011-05-20 13:23   ` Richard Cochran
2011-05-20 13:58   ` Josh Boyer
2011-05-20 13:58     ` Josh Boyer
2011-05-20 14:32     ` Richard Cochran
2011-05-20 14:32       ` Richard Cochran
2011-05-20 14:46       ` Josh Boyer
2011-05-20 14:46         ` Josh Boyer
2011-05-20 20:13         ` Kumar Gala
2011-05-20 20:13           ` Kumar Gala
2011-05-20 22:21   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-05-20 22:21     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-18  6:35 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-13  4:26 Kumar Gala
2011-04-05  7:05 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-05  4:30 Kumar Gala
2011-04-01  5:36 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-03-30  2:08 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-03-21  1:46 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-03-09 23:55 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-03-02  4:54 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-02-07  3:57 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-01-21  4:50 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-01-12  0:16 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-11-30  4:07 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-11-18  5:46 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-11-18 21:42 ` Michael Neuling
2010-11-18 22:08   ` Michael Ellerman
     [not found]     ` <20101119163104.624d264d.sfr@canb.auug.org.au>
2010-11-19  5:44       ` Michael Ellerman
2010-11-19  6:02         ` Michael Neuling
2010-11-21 23:05           ` Michael Ellerman
2010-11-22 11:25             ` Josh Boyer
2010-11-22 18:45         ` Scott Wood
2010-10-08 16:04 Kumar Gala
2010-10-08 23:31 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-10-13  5:18 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-08-31 21:51 Kumar Gala
2010-08-31  5:56 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-09-02  1:55 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-08-24  6:34 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-07-23  4:14 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-07-22 19:45 Kumar Gala
2010-07-14  7:22 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-07-11 16:18 Kumar Gala
2010-07-08  8:19 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-02  8:05 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-05-14  4:28 Kumar Gala
2010-05-17 18:27 ` Kumar Gala
2010-05-12  7:46 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-05-12 10:24 ` Kumar Gala
2010-05-12 10:24   ` Kumar Gala
2010-05-12 10:36   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-05-12 10:36     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-05-13  1:46     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-05-13  1:46       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
     [not found] <mailman.1505.1272352353.27723.linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>
2010-04-27 10:48 ` Heiko Schocher
2010-04-27 10:51   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-27  5:56 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-28  7:02 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-20  4:26 Kumar Gala
2010-04-26 23:05 ` Kumar Gala
2010-04-27  4:09   ` Felix Radensky
2010-04-27  4:55     ` Kumar Gala
2010-03-19  7:18 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-09  2:33 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-18  3:21 Kumar Gala
2010-02-18  3:24 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-18  3:26   ` Kumar Gala
2010-02-18  3:30     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-10  3:52 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-08  6:16 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-01-30 23:34 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-01  4:53 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-01-18  6:45 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-01-18 12:32 ` Josh Boyer
2010-01-18 12:32   ` Josh Boyer
2010-01-18 21:57   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-01-18 21:57     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-12-21 23:25 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-30 22:46 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-11  5:01 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-05  7:07 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-05  7:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-27  7:10 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-27 23:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-29 16:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-29 23:16   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-30  4:06   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-15  6:25 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-09-25  0:15 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-09-25  0:15 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-08-27  3:33 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-08-27 11:05 ` Josh Boyer
2009-08-27 20:55   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-08-10  6:58 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-07-30 11:13 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-07-16  8:00 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-07-08  6:26 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-26  7:19 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-19  5:56 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
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2009-06-15  2:08 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-15  7:01 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-02 23:22 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-02  1:47 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-27  6:40 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
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2009-04-15  9:29 ` Paul Mackerras
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2009-04-07  6:26 ` Paul Mackerras
2009-03-30  4:26 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-03-18  4:11 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-03-13  5:19 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-03-10 23:57 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-03-11  9:37 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2009-03-11  9:37   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2009-03-11 10:57   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-03-11 10:57     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-03-11 15:36     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-11 15:36       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-11 15:53       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2009-03-11 15:53         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2009-03-11 19:18         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-11 19:18           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-04  6:40 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-26 22:33 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-26  4:07 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-26 11:28 ` Josh Boyer
2009-02-26 20:30   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-26 20:46     ` Josh Boyer
2009-02-26 20:54       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
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2009-01-16  5:27 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-01-14  2:34 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
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2008-12-09  4:13 Paul Mackerras
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2008-12-03 23:22 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-11-30 23:48 Paul Mackerras
2008-11-11 10:22 Paul Mackerras
2008-11-06  2:20 Paul Mackerras
2008-10-31 10:54 Paul Mackerras
2008-10-31 10:54 ` Paul Mackerras
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2008-09-18 16:43 ` Timur Tabi
2008-09-18 16:51   ` Josh Boyer
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2008-07-28 16:06       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-28 16:20       ` Grant Likely
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