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From: Jared Hulbert <jaredeh@gmail.com>
To: "Wilcox, Matthew R" <matthew.r.wilcox@intel.com>
Cc: Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Carsten Otte <cotte@de.ibm.com>,
	Chris Brandt <Chris.Brandt@renesas.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 10/20] dax: Replace XIP documentation with DAX documentation
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 01:03:49 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+ZsKJ4EMKRgdFQzUjRJOE48=tTJzHf66-60PnVRj7pxvmNgVg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <100D68C7BA14664A8938383216E40DE0421657C5@fmsmsx111.amr.corp.intel.com>

I our defense we didn't know we were sinning at the time.

Can you walk me through the cache flushing hole?  How is it okay on
X86 but not VIVT archs?  I'm missing something obvious here.

I thought earlier that vm_insert_mixed() handled the necessary
flushing.  Is that even the part you are worried about?

vm_insert_mixed()->insert_pfn()->update_mmu_cache() _should_ handle
the flush.  Except of course now that I look at the ARM code it looks
like it isn't doing anything if !pfn_valid().  <sigh>  I need to spend
some more time looking at this again.

What flushing functions would you call if you did have a cache page.
There are all kinds of cache flushing functions that work without a
struct page. If nothing else the specialized ASM instructions that do
the various flushes don't use struct page as a parameter.  This isn't
the first I've run into the lack of a sane cache API.  Grep for
inval_cache in the mtd drivers, should have been much easier.  Isn't
the proper solution to fix update_mmu_cache() or build out a pageless
cache flushing API?

I don't get the explicit mapping solution.  What are you mapping
where?  What addresses would be SHMLBA?  Phys, kernel, userspace?

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From: Jared Hulbert <jaredeh@gmail.com>
To: "Wilcox, Matthew R" <matthew.r.wilcox@intel.com>
Cc: Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Carsten Otte <cotte@de.ibm.com>,
	Chris Brandt <Chris.Brandt@renesas.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 10/20] dax: Replace XIP documentation with DAX documentation
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 01:03:49 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+ZsKJ4EMKRgdFQzUjRJOE48=tTJzHf66-60PnVRj7pxvmNgVg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <100D68C7BA14664A8938383216E40DE0421657C5@fmsmsx111.amr.corp.intel.com>

I our defense we didn't know we were sinning at the time.

Can you walk me through the cache flushing hole?  How is it okay on
X86 but not VIVT archs?  I'm missing something obvious here.

I thought earlier that vm_insert_mixed() handled the necessary
flushing.  Is that even the part you are worried about?

vm_insert_mixed()->insert_pfn()->update_mmu_cache() _should_ handle
the flush.  Except of course now that I look at the ARM code it looks
like it isn't doing anything if !pfn_valid().  <sigh>  I need to spend
some more time looking at this again.

What flushing functions would you call if you did have a cache page.
There are all kinds of cache flushing functions that work without a
struct page. If nothing else the specialized ASM instructions that do
the various flushes don't use struct page as a parameter.  This isn't
the first I've run into the lack of a sane cache API.  Grep for
inval_cache in the mtd drivers, should have been much easier.  Isn't
the proper solution to fix update_mmu_cache() or build out a pageless
cache flushing API?

I don't get the explicit mapping solution.  What are you mapping
where?  What addresses would be SHMLBA?  Phys, kernel, userspace?

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Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-24 21:20 [PATCH v12 00/20] DAX: Page cache bypass for filesystems on memory storage Matthew Wilcox
2014-10-24 21:20 ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-10-24 21:20 ` [PATCH v12 01/20] axonram: Fix bug in direct_access Matthew Wilcox
2014-10-24 21:20   ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-10-24 21:20 ` [PATCH v12 02/20] block: Change direct_access calling convention Matthew Wilcox
2014-10-24 21:20   ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-10-24 21:20 ` [PATCH v12 03/20] mm: Fix XIP fault vs truncate race Matthew Wilcox
2014-10-24 21:20   ` Matthew Wilcox
2015-01-12 23:09   ` Andrew Morton
2015-01-12 23:09     ` Andrew Morton
2015-01-13 18:50     ` Matthew Wilcox
2015-01-13 18:50       ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-10-24 21:20 ` [PATCH v12 04/20] mm: Allow page fault handlers to perform the COW Matthew Wilcox
2014-10-24 21:20   ` Matthew Wilcox
2015-01-12 23:09   ` Andrew Morton
2015-01-12 23:09     ` Andrew Morton
2015-01-13 18:58     ` Matthew Wilcox
2015-01-13 18:58       ` Matthew Wilcox
2015-02-05  9:16   ` Yigal Korman
2015-02-05  9:16     ` Yigal Korman
2015-02-05 21:39     ` Matthew Wilcox
2015-02-05 21:39       ` Matthew Wilcox
2015-02-08 11:48       ` Yigal Korman
2015-02-08 11:48         ` Yigal Korman
2014-10-24 21:20 ` [PATCH v12 05/20] vfs,ext2: Introduce IS_DAX(inode) Matthew Wilcox
2014-10-24 21:20   ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-10-24 21:20 ` [PATCH v12 06/20] dax,ext2: Replace XIP read and write with DAX I/O Matthew Wilcox
2014-10-24 21:20   ` Matthew Wilcox
2015-01-12 23:09   ` Andrew Morton
2015-01-12 23:09     ` Andrew Morton
2015-01-13 20:59     ` Matthew Wilcox
2015-01-13 20:59       ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-10-24 21:20 ` [PATCH v12 07/20] dax,ext2: Replace ext2_clear_xip_target with dax_clear_blocks Matthew Wilcox
2014-10-24 21:20   ` Matthew Wilcox
2015-01-12 23:09   ` Andrew Morton
2015-01-12 23:09     ` Andrew Morton
2015-01-13 21:39     ` Matthew Wilcox
2015-01-13 21:39       ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-10-24 21:20 ` [PATCH v12 08/20] dax,ext2: Replace the XIP page fault handler with the DAX page fault handler Matthew Wilcox
2014-10-24 21:20   ` Matthew Wilcox
2015-01-12 23:09   ` Andrew Morton
2015-01-12 23:09     ` Andrew Morton
2015-01-13 21:53     ` Matthew Wilcox
2015-01-13 21:53       ` Matthew Wilcox
2015-01-13 22:47       ` Andrew Morton
2015-01-13 22:47         ` Andrew Morton
2014-10-24 21:20 ` [PATCH v12 09/20] dax,ext2: Replace xip_truncate_page with dax_truncate_page Matthew Wilcox
2014-10-24 21:20   ` Matthew Wilcox
2015-01-12 23:09   ` Andrew Morton
2015-01-12 23:09     ` Andrew Morton
2015-01-13 21:55     ` Matthew Wilcox
2015-01-13 21:55       ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-10-24 21:20 ` [PATCH v12 10/20] dax: Replace XIP documentation with DAX documentation Matthew Wilcox
2014-10-24 21:20   ` Matthew Wilcox
2015-01-12 23:10   ` Andrew Morton
2015-01-12 23:10     ` Andrew Morton
2016-01-21 18:38   ` Jared Hulbert
2016-01-21 18:38     ` Jared Hulbert
2016-01-22 13:07     ` Wilcox, Matthew R
2016-01-22 13:48       ` Chris Brandt
2016-01-22 14:39         ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-01-22 14:39           ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-01-24  9:03       ` Jared Hulbert [this message]
2016-01-24  9:03         ` Jared Hulbert
2016-01-25 16:52         ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-01-25 16:52           ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-01-25 21:18           ` Jared Hulbert
2016-01-25 21:18             ` Jared Hulbert
2016-01-27 19:51             ` Jared Hulbert
2016-01-27 19:51               ` Jared Hulbert
2014-10-24 21:20 ` [PATCH v12 11/20] vfs: Remove get_xip_mem Matthew Wilcox
2014-10-24 21:20   ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-10-24 21:20 ` [PATCH v12 12/20] ext2: Remove ext2_xip_verify_sb() Matthew Wilcox
2014-10-24 21:20   ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-10-24 21:20 ` [PATCH v12 13/20] ext2: Remove ext2_use_xip Matthew Wilcox
2014-10-24 21:20   ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-10-24 21:20 ` [PATCH v12 14/20] ext2: Remove xip.c and xip.h Matthew Wilcox
2014-10-24 21:20   ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-10-24 21:20 ` [PATCH v12 15/20] vfs,ext2: Remove CONFIG_EXT2_FS_XIP and rename CONFIG_FS_XIP to CONFIG_FS_DAX Matthew Wilcox
2014-10-24 21:20   ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-10-24 21:20 ` [PATCH v12 16/20] ext2: Remove ext2_aops_xip Matthew Wilcox
2014-10-24 21:20   ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-10-24 21:20 ` [PATCH v12 17/20] ext2: Get rid of most mentions of XIP in ext2 Matthew Wilcox
2014-10-24 21:20   ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-10-24 21:20 ` [PATCH v12 18/20] dax: Add dax_zero_page_range Matthew Wilcox
2014-10-24 21:20   ` Matthew Wilcox
2015-01-12 23:10   ` Andrew Morton
2015-01-12 23:10     ` Andrew Morton
2015-01-12 23:20     ` Ross Zwisler
2015-01-12 23:20       ` Ross Zwisler
2015-01-12 23:20       ` Ross Zwisler
2014-10-24 21:20 ` [PATCH v12 19/20] ext4: Add DAX functionality Matthew Wilcox
2014-10-24 21:20   ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-10-24 21:20 ` [PATCH v12 20/20] brd: Rename XIP to DAX Matthew Wilcox
2014-10-24 21:20   ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-12-10 14:03 ` [PATCH v12 00/20] DAX: Page cache bypass for filesystems on memory storage Christoph Hellwig
2014-12-10 14:03   ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-12-10 14:12   ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-12-10 14:12     ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-12-10 14:28     ` Jeff Moyer
2014-12-10 14:28       ` Jeff Moyer
2014-12-10 20:53     ` Dave Chinner
2014-12-10 20:53       ` Dave Chinner
2015-01-05 18:41     ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-01-05 18:41       ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-01-06  8:47       ` Andrew Morton
2015-01-06  8:47         ` Andrew Morton
2015-01-08 11:49         ` pread2/ pwrite2 Christoph Hellwig
2015-01-08 11:49           ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-01-09 19:30           ` Steve French
2015-01-09 19:30             ` Steve French
2015-01-08 16:27         ` [PATCH v12 00/20] DAX: Page cache bypass for filesystems on memory storage Milosz Tanski
2015-01-08 16:28         ` Milosz Tanski
2015-01-08 16:28           ` Milosz Tanski
2015-01-08 17:36           ` Jeremy Allison
2015-01-08 17:36             ` Jeremy Allison
2015-01-12 14:47         ` Matthew Wilcox
2015-01-12 14:47           ` Matthew Wilcox
2015-01-12 23:09 ` Andrew Morton
2015-01-12 23:09   ` Andrew Morton

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