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From: Sedat Dilek <sedat.dilek@gmail.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>,
	Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	Benjamin Tissoires <benjamin.tissoires@redhat.com>,
	Paul McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	USB list <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] usbhid: Fix lockdep unannotated irqs-off warning
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 22:27:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+icZUXDdWmW12hdug=Pr3OMontf6XckrA9ZkP3=C6FE=R1yMA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFzGd6k3G3PbzmCTYCRsTi7Htw5cx53_4Jey34n=WmCWHQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:14 PM, Linus Torvalds
<torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 12:50 PM, Sedat Dilek <sedat.dilek@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> $ objdump -S clang-eflag.o
>>
>> clang-eflag.o:     file format elf64-x86-64
>>
>>
>> Disassembly of section .text:
>>
>> 0000000000000000 <bar>:
>>    0:   55                      push   %rbp
>>    1:   48 89 e5                mov    %rsp,%rbp
>>    4:   53                      push   %rbx
>>    5:   50                      push   %rax
>>    6:   e8 00 00 00 00          callq  b <bar+0xb>
>>    b:   ff 0d 00 00 00 00       decl   0x0(%rip)        # 11 <bar+0x11>
>>   11:   9c                      pushfq
>>   12:   5b                      pop    %rbx
>>   13:   e8 00 00 00 00          callq  18 <bar+0x18>
>>   18:   b8 01 00 00 00          mov    $0x1,%eax
>>   1d:   53                      push   %rbx
>>   1e:   9d                      popfq
>>   1f:   75 07                   jne    28 <bar+0x28>
>
>
> Yeah, the above is pure garbage.
>
>> So, the issue is still alive.
>>
>> What do you mean by "for the kernel we at a minimum need a way to
>> disable that code generation"?
>> Can this be fixed in the Linux-kernel?
>
> No. This will never be fixed in the kernel. It's a compiler bug.
>
> The compiler generates shit code. It's absolutely atrociously bad even
> if you ignore any kernel issues, because that kind of code just
> performs badly (the compiler should have used "setcc" or something
> similar to just set the comparison value, not save and restore eflags.
>
> And quite frankly, any compiler writer that thinks it is good code is
> not somebody I want touching a compiler that the kernel depends on
> anyway.
>
> But it is not just bad code for the kernel, it's actively buggy code,
> since it corrupts the IF.
>
> Until this gets fixed in LLVM, there's no way in hell that we will
> ever have a kernel compiled with that piece of shit.
>
> Really. If the LLVM developers cannot fix their crap code generation,
> it's not worth touching that shit with a ten-foot pole.
>
> I'd love to be able to compile the kernel with LLVM, but the fact that
> the broken eflags code apparently _still_ hasn't been fixed makes me
> just go "not worth it".
>
> And if the LLVM developers don't see this as an obvious bug, it's even
> less worth it - because that shows not just that the compiler is
> broken, but that the developers involved with it are broken too.
>

Thanks for the quick answer.

I just grepped for some "buzzwords" people gave me in this
email-thread and I was looking at (llvm.git HEAD - upcoming v3.9
release) and found these comments in [1]

[ lib/Target/X86/X86InstrInfo.cpp ]

void X86InstrInfo::copyPhysReg()
...
// PUSHF/POPF is also potentially incorrect because it affects other flags
// such as TF/IF/DF, which LLVM doesn't model.
...

- Sedat -

[1] https://github.com/llvm-mirror/llvm/blob/master/lib/Target/X86/X86InstrInfo.cpp#L4516

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-27 20:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-07 15:59 [PATCH] usbhid: Fix lockdep unannotated irqs-off warning Sedat Dilek
2016-03-07 16:28 ` Sedat Dilek
2016-03-07 16:41 ` Alan Stern
2016-03-07 17:03   ` Steven Rostedt
2016-03-07 17:05   ` Jiri Kosina
2016-03-07 17:15     ` Sedat Dilek
2016-03-07 17:27       ` David Laight
2016-03-07 18:07         ` Alan Stern
2016-03-07 18:30           ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-27 19:50             ` Sedat Dilek
2016-06-27 20:03               ` Sedat Dilek
2016-06-27 20:14               ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-27 20:27                 ` Sedat Dilek [this message]
2016-06-27 20:36                   ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-07 17:11   ` Steven Rostedt
2016-03-07 17:18   ` Sedat Dilek
2016-03-07 17:24     ` Jiri Kosina
2016-03-07 17:30       ` Steven Rostedt
2016-03-07 18:04         ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-07 19:10           ` Steven Rostedt
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-09-28  8:10 Sedat Dilek
2015-09-28 11:33 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-09-29  8:40   ` Sedat Dilek
2015-09-29  9:27     ` Jiri Kosina
2015-09-29 18:54       ` Sedat Dilek
2015-09-29 19:08         ` Steven Rostedt
2015-09-29 19:32           ` Sedat Dilek
     [not found]       ` <CA+icZUWH2vR_vpYu4hCS578U3ssmoiF0pLYUfM-Xo-57e8uN=g@mail.gmail.com>
2015-09-30  6:41         ` Sedat Dilek
2015-09-30  8:50           ` Steven Rostedt
2015-09-30  7:35         ` Jiri Kosina
2015-09-30  8:56           ` Steven Rostedt
2015-09-30  9:46             ` Sedat Dilek
2015-09-30 10:13               ` Steven Rostedt
2015-09-30 10:39                 ` Sedat Dilek
     [not found]                 ` <CA+icZUXSzScTmMgLZwPQq9RMH9cUsD5_iDxKTVuG0rrGqH-8Cw@mail.gmail.com>
2015-10-01  2:01                   ` Steven Rostedt
2015-10-01  5:34                     ` Sedat Dilek
2015-10-01  6:05                     ` Sedat Dilek
     [not found]                       ` <CA+icZUUyaHqHP2v52juhGhoTNS9xX7LT2YxkOppLz6f9Z+FBEA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                         ` <CA+icZUWagGMVNs5gBPRBhYO0LsY2A1hK3KSLabp9ZpDVOTmtig@mail.gmail.com>
2015-10-13  0:57                           ` Steven Rostedt
2016-03-01 10:05                             ` Sedat Dilek
2016-03-01 15:07                               ` Steven Rostedt
2016-03-01 15:17                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-02 15:00                                   ` Sedat Dilek
2016-03-02 15:17                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-02 15:34                                       ` Sedat Dilek
2016-03-02 15:53                                       ` Sedat Dilek
2016-03-02 15:56                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2016-03-02 16:08                                           ` Sedat Dilek
2016-03-02 16:11                                             ` Sedat Dilek
2016-03-02 16:21                                               ` Sedat Dilek
2016-03-02 16:24                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-02 16:35                                           ` Steven Rostedt
2016-03-02 16:42                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-02 16:42                                           ` Sedat Dilek
2016-03-02 16:52                                             ` Sedat Dilek
2016-03-01 15:59                               ` Alan Stern
2016-03-02  6:25                                 ` Sedat Dilek
2016-03-04 16:04                                   ` Alan Stern
2016-03-05 22:30                                     ` Sedat Dilek
2016-03-06  8:51                                       ` Sedat Dilek
2016-03-06 17:23                                       ` Alan Stern
2016-03-02  6:36                                 ` Sedat Dilek
2016-03-02  8:34                                   ` Sedat Dilek
2016-03-02  8:37                                     ` Jiri Kosina
2016-03-02  9:11                                       ` Sedat Dilek
     [not found]     ` <CA+icZUX3tJvRor6CbOZFBecTAUZzyWzjLzJSEdb3c12yKRAT3g@mail.gmail.com>
2015-09-29 13:13       ` Steven Rostedt

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