Re: linux tooling mailing list

Re: linux tooling mailing list

[Nick Desaulniers]

Hello postmaster,
Any thoughts on linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org?

On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 3:14 AM Nick Clifton <nickc@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> >>>> Would it be possible to setup:
> >>>> linux-tooling@vger.kernel.org
>
> >>> s/linux-tooling/linux-toolchains (better plural toolchains)
>
> >> FWIW FreeBSD names it "freebsd-toolchain".
> >> NetBSD names it "tech-toolchain".
> >>
> >> I'd slightly prefer the singular form.
>
> > OK with singular form.
> >
> > I was thinking of GNU and LLVM toolchain*s* - that's why the plural.
>
> Personally I prefer the plural too, but it is not a big issue.
>
> I am however delighted that it looks like this idea will go ahead.

-- 
Thanks,
~Nick Desaulniers

Re: linux tooling mailing list

[Nick Desaulniers]

Does anyone know who's behind postmaster@vger.kernel.org?  Maybe I can
email them directly if perhaps they don't check this email often?
(Benefit of the doubt)

On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 1:49 PM Nick Desaulniers
<ndesaulniers@google.com> wrote:
>
> Hello postmaster,
> Any thoughts on linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org?
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 3:14 AM Nick Clifton <nickc@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > >>>> Would it be possible to setup:
> > >>>> linux-tooling@vger.kernel.org
> >
> > >>> s/linux-tooling/linux-toolchains (better plural toolchains)
> >
> > >> FWIW FreeBSD names it "freebsd-toolchain".
> > >> NetBSD names it "tech-toolchain".
> > >>
> > >> I'd slightly prefer the singular form.
> >
> > > OK with singular form.
> > >
> > > I was thinking of GNU and LLVM toolchain*s* - that's why the plural.
> >
> > Personally I prefer the plural too, but it is not a big issue.
> >
> > I am however delighted that it looks like this idea will go ahead.
>
> --
> Thanks,
> ~Nick Desaulniers



-- 
Thanks,
~Nick Desaulniers

Re: linux tooling mailing list

[Peter Zijlstra]

On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 10:25:40AM -0700, Nick Desaulniers wrote:
> Does anyone know who's behind postmaster@vger.kernel.org?  Maybe I can
> email them directly if perhaps they don't check this email often?
> (Benefit of the doubt)

davem iirc.

Re: linux tooling mailing list

[Nick Desaulniers]

Hi David,
Apologies if this request has crossed your desk already; I know my
unreads in my inbox seems to have doubled this week somehow...(should
I send them all to /dev/null? I think I should.)

From Linux Plumbers conf Binutils BoF, Peter had the idea of setting a
toolchain agnostic email list, and from the thread folks seem content
with linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org.  Is this something you would be
able to help set up for us?  If not, is this something you can help
delegate to someone else to set up (any pointers who I should talk to
in that regard)?

The full thread:
https://groups.google.com/g/clang-built-linux/c/GLEkFKlDXfo (sorry I
didn't cc lkml sooner for a proper lore link; I myself am ~1 more bug
away from switching away from google groups forever).
-- 
Thanks,
~Nick Desaulniers

Re: linux tooling mailing list

[David Miller]

From: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 12:29:38 -0700

> linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org

Created.

Re: linux tooling mailing list

[Nick Clifton]

Hi Guys,

>> linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org
> Created.

I have been able to subscribe to this list, so it looks like thunderbirds are go...

Cheers
  Nick

Re: linux tooling mailing list

[Sedat Dilek]

On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 12:26 AM David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote:
>
> From: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>
> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 12:29:38 -0700
>
> > linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org
>
> Created.
>

I am subscribed, too.

Will there be a(n)...?

* archive (for example marc.info)
* patchwork url

- Sedat -

[1] https://github.com/ClangBuiltLinux/linux/issues/1170

Re: linux tooling mailing list

[Segher Boessenkool]

On Fri, Oct 02, 2020 at 02:01:13PM +0200, Sedat Dilek wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 12:26 AM David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote:
> > From: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>
> > Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 12:29:38 -0700
> > > linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org
> >
> > Created.
> 
> I am subscribed, too.
> 
> Will there be a(n)...?
> 
> * archive (for example marc.info)

A lore archive would be good?

> * patchwork url

We do not have any repositories associated with this list, and there
won't be many patches anyway, so patchwork will only be useful as a kind
of mail archive.  I can ask to set one up though, if people want that?


Segher

Re: linux tooling mailing list

[Randy Dunlap]

On 10/2/20 10:22 AM, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 02, 2020 at 02:01:13PM +0200, Sedat Dilek wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 12:26 AM David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote:
>>> From: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>
>>> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 12:29:38 -0700
>>>> linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org
>>>
>>> Created.
>>
>> I am subscribed, too.
>>
>> Will there be a(n)...?
>>
>> * archive (for example marc.info)
> 
> A lore archive would be good?

That has already been requested.

> 
>> * patchwork url
> 
> We do not have any repositories associated with this list, and there
> won't be many patches anyway, so patchwork will only be useful as a kind
> of mail archive.  I can ask to set one up though, if people want that?
> 
> 
> Segher
> 


-- 
~Randy

Re: linux tooling mailing list

[Nick Desaulniers]

On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 10:37 AM Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> On 10/2/20 10:22 AM, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 02, 2020 at 02:01:13PM +0200, Sedat Dilek wrote:
> >> On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 12:26 AM David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote:
> >>> From: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>
> >>> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 12:29:38 -0700
> >>>> linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org
> >>>
> >>> Created.
> >>
> >> I am subscribed, too.
> >>
> >> Will there be a(n)...?
> >>
> >> * archive (for example marc.info)
> >
> > A lore archive would be good?
>
> That has already been requested.

Hi David,
Thank you for setting up the mailing list.  I appreciate it.  Now that
the lore archive has been set up
(https://lore.kernel.org/linux-toolchains/), would you mind linking to
it from http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html under archives of
linux-toolchains?

>
> >
> >> * patchwork url
> >
> > We do not have any repositories associated with this list, and there
> > won't be many patches anyway, so patchwork will only be useful as a kind
> > of mail archive.  I can ask to set one up though, if people want that?

Personally, I haven't been using patchwork.  I know some maintainers
use it to keep track of reviews of lots of patches, but other than
that is there a major use case for patchwork I'm missing?

> >
> >
> > Segher
> >
>
>
> --
> ~Randy
>


-- 
Thanks,
~Nick Desaulniers

Re: linux tooling mailing list

[Sedat Dilek]

On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 7:50 PM Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 10:37 AM Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> > On 10/2/20 10:22 AM, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
> > > On Fri, Oct 02, 2020 at 02:01:13PM +0200, Sedat Dilek wrote:
> > >> On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 12:26 AM David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote:
> > >>> From: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>
> > >>> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 12:29:38 -0700
> > >>>> linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org
> > >>>
> > >>> Created.
> > >>
> > >> I am subscribed, too.
> > >>
> > >> Will there be a(n)...?
> > >>
> > >> * archive (for example marc.info)
> > >
> > > A lore archive would be good?
> >
> > That has already been requested.
>
> Hi David,
> Thank you for setting up the mailing list.  I appreciate it.  Now that
> the lore archive has been set up
> (https://lore.kernel.org/linux-toolchains/), would you mind linking to
> it from http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html under archives of
> linux-toolchains?
>

Updating MAINTAINERS file came to my mind... Dunno where ro place the
new ML info?

- Sedat -

> >
> > >
> > >> * patchwork url
> > >
> > > We do not have any repositories associated with this list, and there
> > > won't be many patches anyway, so patchwork will only be useful as a kind
> > > of mail archive.  I can ask to set one up though, if people want that?
>
> Personally, I haven't been using patchwork.  I know some maintainers
> use it to keep track of reviews of lots of patches, but other than
> that is there a major use case for patchwork I'm missing?
>
> > >
> > >
> > > Segher
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ~Randy
> >
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> ~Nick Desaulniers

Re: linux tooling mailing list

[David Miller]

From: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2020 10:50:35 -0700

> Now that the lore archive has been set up
> (https://lore.kernel.org/linux-toolchains/), would you mind linking to
> it from http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html under archives of
> linux-toolchains?

Done.