* [Buildroot] [PATCH 1/1] ti-gfx: bump to version 5_01_00_01
@ 2014-02-13 18:38 kuyurix at gmail.com
2014-02-13 22:03 ` Spenser Gilliland
2014-02-23 19:31 ` Yann E. MORIN
0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: kuyurix at gmail.com @ 2014-02-13 18:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: buildroot
From: Marcelo Gutierrez <kuyurix@gmail.com>
Signed-off-by: Marcelo Gutierrez <kuyurix@gmail.com>
---
package/ti-gfx/ti-gfx.mk | 8 ++++----
1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
diff --git a/package/ti-gfx/ti-gfx.mk b/package/ti-gfx/ti-gfx.mk
index a94f00d..5ea6b92 100644
--- a/package/ti-gfx/ti-gfx.mk
+++ b/package/ti-gfx/ti-gfx.mk
@@ -4,13 +4,13 @@
#
################################################################################
-TI_GFX_VERSION = 4_09_00_01
-TI_GFX_SO_VERSION = 1.9.2188537
+TI_GFX_VERSION = 5_01_00_01
+TI_GFX_SO_VERSION = 1.10.2359475
ifeq ($(BR2_ARM_EABIHF),y)
-TI_GFX_SOURCE = Graphics_SDK_setuplinux_$(TI_GFX_VERSION)_hardfp_minimal_demos.bin
+TI_GFX_SOURCE = Graphics_SDK_setuplinux_hardfp_$(TI_GFX_VERSION).bin
else
-TI_GFX_SOURCE = Graphics_SDK_setuplinux_$(TI_GFX_VERSION)_minimal_demos.bin
+TI_GFX_SOURCE = Graphics_SDK_setuplinux_softfp_$(TI_GFX_VERSION).bin
endif
TI_GFX_SITE = http://downloads.ti.com/dsps/dsps_public_sw/sdo_sb/targetcontent/gfxsdk/$(TI_GFX_VERSION)/exports/
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* [Buildroot] [PATCH 1/1] ti-gfx: bump to version 5_01_00_01
2014-02-13 18:38 [Buildroot] [PATCH 1/1] ti-gfx: bump to version 5_01_00_01 kuyurix at gmail.com
@ 2014-02-13 22:03 ` Spenser Gilliland
2014-02-13 22:50 ` Marcelo Gutierrez
2014-02-23 19:31 ` Yann E. MORIN
1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Spenser Gilliland @ 2014-02-13 22:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: buildroot
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:38 PM, <kuyurix@gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Marcelo Gutierrez <kuyurix@gmail.com>
>
>
> Signed-off-by: Marcelo Gutierrez <kuyurix@gmail.com>
> ---
> package/ti-gfx/ti-gfx.mk | 8 ++++----
> 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/package/ti-gfx/ti-gfx.mk b/package/ti-gfx/ti-gfx.mk
> index a94f00d..5ea6b92 100644
> --- a/package/ti-gfx/ti-gfx.mk
> +++ b/package/ti-gfx/ti-gfx.mk
> @@ -4,13 +4,13 @@
> #
> ################################################################################
>
> -TI_GFX_VERSION = 4_09_00_01
> -TI_GFX_SO_VERSION = 1.9.2188537
> +TI_GFX_VERSION = 5_01_00_01
> +TI_GFX_SO_VERSION = 1.10.2359475
>
> ifeq ($(BR2_ARM_EABIHF),y)
> -TI_GFX_SOURCE = Graphics_SDK_setuplinux_$(TI_GFX_VERSION)_hardfp_minimal_demos.bin
> +TI_GFX_SOURCE = Graphics_SDK_setuplinux_hardfp_$(TI_GFX_VERSION).bin
> else
> -TI_GFX_SOURCE = Graphics_SDK_setuplinux_$(TI_GFX_VERSION)_minimal_demos.bin
> +TI_GFX_SOURCE = Graphics_SDK_setuplinux_softfp_$(TI_GFX_VERSION).bin
> endif
>
> TI_GFX_SITE = http://downloads.ti.com/dsps/dsps_public_sw/sdo_sb/targetcontent/gfxsdk/$(TI_GFX_VERSION)/exports/
> --
> 1.7.9.5
>
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Marcelo Gutierrez,
Please see the following site. The 5_01_00_01 version is not a
supported version; it is of alpha quality and has several
deficiencies.
http://tigraphics.blogspot.com/2013/11/4q-2013-linux-graphics-sdk-release.html
Thanks,
Spenser
--
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Computer Engineer
Doctoral Candidate
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* [Buildroot] [PATCH 1/1] ti-gfx: bump to version 5_01_00_01
2014-02-13 22:03 ` Spenser Gilliland
@ 2014-02-13 22:50 ` Marcelo Gutierrez
2014-02-14 9:57 ` Peter Kuemmel
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Marcelo Gutierrez @ 2014-02-13 22:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: buildroot
Hi Spenser,
Please see the following site. The 5_01_00_01 version is not a
> supported version; it is of alpha quality and has several
> deficiencies.
>
>
> http://tigraphics.blogspot.com/2013/11/4q-2013-linux-graphics-sdk-release.html
>
I've tested Graphics SDK 5_01_00_01 and run great!
This is the release note:
http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/RN_5_01_00_01
The link that you've sent is about 5_00_00_01_alpha version and maybe that
version got several issues.
On the other hand, a feature in this release(5_01_00_01) is " 3.12 kernel
support" and if you take a look this commit "beaglebone: update to TI 3.12
kernel"
http://git.buildroot.net/buildroot/commit/configs?id=1ca56e4e159cd5dd44cd3aba997396d49f22ecda
The new update to TI 3.12 will not work with the actual version
"TI_GFX_VERSION = 4_09_00_01"
Regards,
Marcelo
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2014-02-13 22:50 ` Marcelo Gutierrez
@ 2014-02-14 9:57 ` Peter Kuemmel
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2014-02-14 9:57 ` Peter Kuemmel
@ 2014-02-14 11:03 ` Peter Kuemmel
2014-02-14 16:02 ` Marcelo Gutierrez
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* [Buildroot] [PATCH 1/1] ti-gfx: bump to version 5_01_00_01
2014-02-14 11:03 ` Peter Kuemmel
@ 2014-02-14 16:02 ` Marcelo Gutierrez
2014-02-14 16:11 ` Peter Kuemmel
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From: Marcelo Gutierrez @ 2014-02-14 16:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: buildroot
Hi all,
I'm using hardfloat:
$readelf -A output/target/bin/busybox
Attribute Section: aeabi
File Attributes
Tag_CPU_name: "7-A"
Tag_CPU_arch: v7
Tag_CPU_arch_profile: Application
Tag_ARM_ISA_use: Yes
Tag_THUMB_ISA_use: Thumb-2
Tag_FP_arch: VFPv3
Tag_Advanced_SIMD_arch: NEONv1
Tag_ABI_PCS_wchar_t: 4
Tag_ABI_FP_rounding: Needed
Tag_ABI_FP_denormal: Needed
Tag_ABI_FP_exceptions: Needed
Tag_ABI_FP_number_model: IEEE 754
Tag_ABI_align_needed: 8-byte
Tag_ABI_align_preserved: 8-byte, except leaf SP
Tag_ABI_enum_size: int
Tag_ABI_HardFP_use: SP and DP
Tag_ABI_VFP_args: VFP registers
Tag_CPU_unaligned_access: v6
Tag_Virtualization_use: TrustZone
$readelf -A pvrsrvctl
Attribute Section: aeabi
File Attributes
Tag_CPU_name: "7-A"
Tag_CPU_arch: v7
Tag_CPU_arch_profile: Application
Tag_ARM_ISA_use: Yes
Tag_THUMB_ISA_use: Thumb-2
Tag_FP_arch: VFPv3-D16
Tag_ABI_PCS_wchar_t: 4
Tag_ABI_FP_denormal: Needed
Tag_ABI_FP_exceptions: Needed
Tag_ABI_FP_number_model: IEEE 754
Tag_ABI_align_needed: 8-byte
Tag_ABI_align_preserved: 8-byte, except leaf SP
Tag_ABI_enum_size: int
Tag_ABI_HardFP_use: SP and DP
Tag_ABI_VFP_args: VFP registers
Tag_CPU_unaligned_access: v6
Tag_DIV_use: Not allowed
I tested 5_01_00_01 version on BBB.
>[ 15.008605] CPU: 0 Tainted: G W (3.0.50-vallon #1)
Your kernel version is 3.0.50 and that could be the issue.
The release notes contain this instruction:
>Pre-requisites
>
>Kernel(Linux PSP) versions supported or used for validation
>
>Only the following devices have been tested & details below -
>
>AM335x & AM43x -
>
>Tree: git://git.ti.com/ti-linux-kernel/ti-linux-kernel.git
>Branch: ti-linux-3.12.y
>commit - dfea149efb32485f17bb7440eb326549c8f647e2, tag - ti2013.12.00
>
>NOTE-
>1.Ensure the reset controller driver is enabled in kernel menuconfig if not enabled by default as below-
>CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_RESET_CONTROLLER=y
>CONFIG_RESET_CONTROLLER=y
>CONFIG_RESET_TI=y
Regards,
Marcelo
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* [Buildroot] [PATCH 1/1] ti-gfx: bump to version 5_01_00_01
2014-02-14 16:02 ` Marcelo Gutierrez
@ 2014-02-14 16:11 ` Peter Kuemmel
2014-02-14 16:22 ` Marcelo Gutierrez
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Peter Kuemmel @ 2014-02-14 16:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: buildroot
>
> Your kernel version is 3.0.50 and that could be the issue.
Indeed, seems my kernel is too old.
Thanks for the explanation.
Peter
>
> The release notes contain this instruction:
> >Pre-requisites
> >
> >Kernel(Linux PSP) versions supported or used for validation
> >
> >Only the following devices have been tested & details below -
> >
> >AM335x & AM43x -
> >
> >Tree: git://git.ti.com/ti-linux-kernel/ti-linux-kernel.git
> >Branch: ti-linux-3.12.y
> >commit - dfea149efb32485f17bb7440eb326549c8f647e2, tag - ti2013.12.00
> >
> >NOTE-
> >1.Ensure the reset controller driver is enabled in kernel menuconfig if not enabled by default as below-
> >CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_RESET_CONTROLLER=y
> >CONFIG_RESET_CONTROLLER=y
> >CONFIG_RESET_TI=y
>
> Regards,
> Marcelo
>
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* [Buildroot] [PATCH 1/1] ti-gfx: bump to version 5_01_00_01
2014-02-14 16:11 ` Peter Kuemmel
@ 2014-02-14 16:22 ` Marcelo Gutierrez
0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Marcelo Gutierrez @ 2014-02-14 16:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: buildroot
You're welcome. ;-)
Regards,
Marcelo
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* [Buildroot] [PATCH 1/1] ti-gfx: bump to version 5_01_00_01
2014-02-13 18:38 [Buildroot] [PATCH 1/1] ti-gfx: bump to version 5_01_00_01 kuyurix at gmail.com
2014-02-13 22:03 ` Spenser Gilliland
@ 2014-02-23 19:31 ` Yann E. MORIN
2014-02-23 19:56 ` Peter Korsgaard
1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Yann E. MORIN @ 2014-02-23 19:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: buildroot
Marcelo, All,
On 2014-02-13 18:38 +0000, kuyurix at gmail.com spake thusly:
> From: Marcelo Gutierrez <kuyurix@gmail.com>
>
> Signed-off-by: Marcelo Gutierrez <kuyurix@gmail.com>
Reviewed-by: "Yann E. MORIN" <yann.morin.1998@free.fr>
Notes:
- The version pointed to by Spencer was 5.00.x, and was a beta
version, and only contained the hardfp variant. The version in
this patch is 5.01.x, is not marked as beta, and contains both
the hardfp and softfp variants.
- With 4.10.x and before, the *_$(TI_GFX_VERSION).bin archive would
contain a huge load of stuff we did not need, and was roughly
1.7GiB big. But with 5.01.x, this file is now back to a more
acceptable size, roughly 140MiB (although it still contains way
much more than we need).
Regards,
Yann E. MORIN.
> ---
> package/ti-gfx/ti-gfx.mk | 8 ++++----
> 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/package/ti-gfx/ti-gfx.mk b/package/ti-gfx/ti-gfx.mk
> index a94f00d..5ea6b92 100644
> --- a/package/ti-gfx/ti-gfx.mk
> +++ b/package/ti-gfx/ti-gfx.mk
> @@ -4,13 +4,13 @@
> #
> ################################################################################
>
> -TI_GFX_VERSION = 4_09_00_01
> -TI_GFX_SO_VERSION = 1.9.2188537
> +TI_GFX_VERSION = 5_01_00_01
> +TI_GFX_SO_VERSION = 1.10.2359475
>
> ifeq ($(BR2_ARM_EABIHF),y)
> -TI_GFX_SOURCE = Graphics_SDK_setuplinux_$(TI_GFX_VERSION)_hardfp_minimal_demos.bin
> +TI_GFX_SOURCE = Graphics_SDK_setuplinux_hardfp_$(TI_GFX_VERSION).bin
> else
> -TI_GFX_SOURCE = Graphics_SDK_setuplinux_$(TI_GFX_VERSION)_minimal_demos.bin
> +TI_GFX_SOURCE = Graphics_SDK_setuplinux_softfp_$(TI_GFX_VERSION).bin
> endif
>
> TI_GFX_SITE = http://downloads.ti.com/dsps/dsps_public_sw/sdo_sb/targetcontent/gfxsdk/$(TI_GFX_VERSION)/exports/
> --
> 1.7.9.5
>
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* [Buildroot] [PATCH 1/1] ti-gfx: bump to version 5_01_00_01
2014-02-23 19:31 ` Yann E. MORIN
@ 2014-02-23 19:56 ` Peter Korsgaard
2014-02-26 13:31 ` Peter Korsgaard
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Peter Korsgaard @ 2014-02-23 19:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: buildroot
>>>>> "Yann" == Yann E MORIN <yann.morin.1998@free.fr> writes:
> Marcelo, All,
> On 2014-02-13 18:38 +0000, kuyurix at gmail.com spake thusly:
>> From: Marcelo Gutierrez <kuyurix@gmail.com>
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Marcelo Gutierrez <kuyurix@gmail.com>
> Reviewed-by: "Yann E. MORIN" <yann.morin.1998@free.fr>
> Notes:
> - The version pointed to by Spencer was 5.00.x, and was a beta
> version, and only contained the hardfp variant. The version in
> this patch is 5.01.x, is not marked as beta, and contains both
> the hardfp and softfp variants.
> - With 4.10.x and before, the *_$(TI_GFX_VERSION).bin archive would
> contain a huge load of stuff we did not need, and was roughly
> 1.7GiB big. But with 5.01.x, this file is now back to a more
> acceptable size, roughly 140MiB (although it still contains way
> much more than we need).
Sounds good. Committed to next, thanks both.
--
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* [Buildroot] [PATCH 1/1] ti-gfx: bump to version 5_01_00_01
2014-02-23 19:56 ` Peter Korsgaard
@ 2014-02-26 13:31 ` Peter Korsgaard
2014-02-27 20:08 ` Marcelo Gutierrez
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Peter Korsgaard @ 2014-02-26 13:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: buildroot
>>>>> "Peter" == Peter Korsgaard <jacmet@uclibc.org> writes:
>>>>> "Yann" == Yann E MORIN <yann.morin.1998@free.fr> writes:
>> Marcelo, All,
>> On 2014-02-13 18:38 +0000, kuyurix at gmail.com spake thusly:
>>> From: Marcelo Gutierrez <kuyurix@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Marcelo Gutierrez <kuyurix@gmail.com>
>> Reviewed-by: "Yann E. MORIN" <yann.morin.1998@free.fr>
>> Notes:
>> - The version pointed to by Spencer was 5.00.x, and was a beta
>> version, and only contained the hardfp variant. The version in
>> this patch is 5.01.x, is not marked as beta, and contains both
>> the hardfp and softfp variants.
>> - With 4.10.x and before, the *_$(TI_GFX_VERSION).bin archive would
>> contain a huge load of stuff we did not need, and was roughly
>> 1.7GiB big. But with 5.01.x, this file is now back to a more
>> acceptable size, roughly 140MiB (although it still contains way
>> much more than we need).
> Sounds good. Committed to next, thanks both.
Ehh, but the newclkapi patch no longer applies:
Applying ti-gfx-newclkapi.patch using patch:
patching file GFX_Linux_KM/services4/system/omap3630/sysutils_linux.c
Hunk #1 FAILED at 153.
Hunk #2 FAILED at 167.
Hunk #3 FAILED at 233.
Hunk #4 FAILED at 246.
Hunk #5 succeeded at 540 (offset 166 lines).
Hunk #6 FAILED at 444.
Hunk #7 FAILED at 490.
6 out of 7 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file GFX_Linux_KM/services4/system/omap3630/sysutils_linux.c.rej
Patch failed! Please fix ti-gfx-newclkapi.patch!
make: *** [/home/peko/source/buildroot/output/build/ti-gfx-5_01_00_01/.stamp_patched] Error 1
Could you please send a patch to fix it?
I also see that 5_01_01_01 is out:
http://tigraphics.blogspot.be/2014/02/1q-2014-linux-graphics-sdk-release.html
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* [Buildroot] [PATCH 1/1] ti-gfx: bump to version 5_01_00_01
2014-02-26 13:31 ` Peter Korsgaard
@ 2014-02-27 20:08 ` Marcelo Gutierrez
0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Marcelo Gutierrez @ 2014-02-27 20:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: buildroot
Hi Peter, all
Ehh, but the newclkapi patch no longer applies:
>
> Applying ti-gfx-newclkapi.patch using patch:
> patching file GFX_Linux_KM/services4/system/omap3630/sysutils_linux.c
> Hunk #1 FAILED at 153.
> Hunk #2 FAILED at 167.
> Hunk #3 FAILED at 233.
> Hunk #4 FAILED at 246.
> Hunk #5 succeeded at 540 (offset 166 lines).
> Hunk #6 FAILED at 444.
> Hunk #7 FAILED at 490.
> 6 out of 7 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file
> GFX_Linux_KM/services4/system/omap3630/sysutils_linux.c.rej
> Patch failed! Please fix ti-gfx-newclkapi.patch!
> make: *** [/home/peko/source/buildroot/
> output/build/ti-gfx-5_01_00_01/.stamp_patched] Error 1
>
> Could you please send a patch to fix it?
>
I wonder if we need to apply that patch?
All I can say that SGX version works great on BBB(ti-kernel 3.12 using
beaglebone_defconfig)
Regards,
Marcelo
2014-02-26 10:31 GMT-03:00 Peter Korsgaard <peter@korsgaard.com>:
> >>>>> "Peter" == Peter Korsgaard <jacmet@uclibc.org> writes:
>
> >>>>> "Yann" == Yann E MORIN <yann.morin.1998@free.fr> writes:
> >> Marcelo, All,
> >> On 2014-02-13 18:38 +0000, kuyurix at gmail.com spake thusly:
> >>> From: Marcelo Gutierrez <kuyurix@gmail.com>
> >>>
> >>> Signed-off-by: Marcelo Gutierrez <kuyurix@gmail.com>
>
> >> Reviewed-by: "Yann E. MORIN" <yann.morin.1998@free.fr>
>
> >> Notes:
>
> >> - The version pointed to by Spencer was 5.00.x, and was a beta
> >> version, and only contained the hardfp variant. The version in
> >> this patch is 5.01.x, is not marked as beta, and contains both
> >> the hardfp and softfp variants.
>
> >> - With 4.10.x and before, the *_$(TI_GFX_VERSION).bin archive would
> >> contain a huge load of stuff we did not need, and was roughly
> >> 1.7GiB big. But with 5.01.x, this file is now back to a more
> >> acceptable size, roughly 140MiB (although it still contains way
> >> much more than we need).
>
> > Sounds good. Committed to next, thanks both.
>
> Ehh, but the newclkapi patch no longer applies:
>
> Applying ti-gfx-newclkapi.patch using patch:
> patching file GFX_Linux_KM/services4/system/omap3630/sysutils_linux.c
> Hunk #1 FAILED at 153.
> Hunk #2 FAILED at 167.
> Hunk #3 FAILED at 233.
> Hunk #4 FAILED at 246.
> Hunk #5 succeeded at 540 (offset 166 lines).
> Hunk #6 FAILED at 444.
> Hunk #7 FAILED at 490.
> 6 out of 7 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file
> GFX_Linux_KM/services4/system/omap3630/sysutils_linux.c.rej
> Patch failed! Please fix ti-gfx-newclkapi.patch!
> make: ***
> [/home/peko/source/buildroot/output/build/ti-gfx-5_01_00_01/.stamp_patched]
> Error 1
>
> Could you please send a patch to fix it?
>
> I also see that 5_01_01_01 is out:
>
>
> http://tigraphics.blogspot.be/2014/02/1q-2014-linux-graphics-sdk-release.html
>
> --
> Bye, Peter Korsgaard
>
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