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From: Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org>
To: Paul Kocialkowski <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
Cc: Nicolas Dufresne <nicolas.dufresne@collabora.com>,
	Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel@collabora.com>,
	Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@bootlin.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/9] CHROMIUM: v4l: Add H264 low-level decoder API compound controls.
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2018 16:54:40 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAFQd5DrCeDAvwBFt+Gh_mFcDRceO-nazDPDGoCVnGF=wj5aaQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAFQd5Az89KTS_+VBUMHX3Eice+OKQn66Hw0rBusf4g6rSJ7VA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 5:11 PM Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 11:45 PM Paul Kocialkowski
> <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Wed, 2018-08-22 at 22:38 +0900, Tomasz Figa wrote:
> > > On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 10:07 PM Paul Kocialkowski
> > > <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 2018-08-21 at 13:07 -0400, Nicolas Dufresne wrote:
> > > > > Le mardi 21 août 2018 à 13:58 -0300, Ezequiel Garcia a écrit :
> > > > > > On Wed, 2018-06-13 at 16:07 +0200, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> > > > > > > From: Pawel Osciak <posciak@chromium.org>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Pawel Osciak <posciak@chromium.org>
> > > > > > > Reviewed-by: Wu-cheng Li <wuchengli@chromium.org>
> > > > > > > Tested-by: Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org>
> > > > > > > [rebase44(groeck): include linux/types.h in v4l2-controls.h]
> > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Guenter Roeck <groeck@chromium.org>
> > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@bootlin.com>
> > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [..]
> > > > > > > diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/videodev2.h
> > > > > > > b/include/uapi/linux/videodev2.h
> > > > > > > index 242a6bfa1440..4b4a1b25a0db 100644
> > > > > > > --- a/include/uapi/linux/videodev2.h
> > > > > > > +++ b/include/uapi/linux/videodev2.h
> > > > > > > @@ -626,6 +626,7 @@ struct v4l2_pix_format {
> > > > > > >  #define V4L2_PIX_FMT_H264     v4l2_fourcc('H', '2', '6', '4') /*
> > > > > > > H264 with start codes */
> > > > > > >  #define V4L2_PIX_FMT_H264_NO_SC v4l2_fourcc('A', 'V', 'C', '1') /*
> > > > > > > H264 without start codes */
> > > > > > >  #define V4L2_PIX_FMT_H264_MVC v4l2_fourcc('M', '2', '6', '4') /*
> > > > > > > H264 MVC */
> > > > > > > +#define V4L2_PIX_FMT_H264_SLICE v4l2_fourcc('S', '2', '6', '4') /*
> > > > > > > H264 parsed slices */
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As pointed out by Tomasz, the Rockchip VPU driver expects start codes
> > > > > > [1], so the userspace
> > > > > > should be aware of it. Perhaps we could document this pixel format
> > > > > > better as:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > #define V4L2_PIX_FMT_H264_SLICE v4l2_fourcc('S', '2', '6', '4') /*
> > > > > > H264 parsed slices with start codes */
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And introduce another pixel format:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > #define V4L2_PIX_FMT_H264_SLICE_NO_SC v4l2_fourcc(TODO) /* H264
> > > > > > parsed slices without start codes */
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For cedrus to use, as it seems it doesn't need start codes.
> > > > >
> > > > > I must admit that this RK requirement is a bit weird for slice data.
> > > > > Though, userspace wise, always adding start-code would be compatible,
> > > > > as the driver can just offset to remove it.
> > > >
> > > > This would mean that the stateless API no longer takes parsed bitstream
> > > > data but effectively the full bitstream, which defeats the purpose of
> > > > the _SLICE pixel formats.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Not entirely. One of the purposes of the _SLICE pixel format was to
> > > specify it in a way that adds a requirement of providing the required
> > > controls by the client.
> >
> > I think we need to define what we want the stateless APIs (and these
> > formats) to precisely reflect conceptually. I've started discussing this
> > in the Request API and V4L2 capabilities thread.
> >
> > > > > Another option, because I'm not fan of adding dedicated formats for
> > > > > this, the RK driver could use data_offset (in mplane v4l2 buffers),
> > > > > just write a start code there. I like this solution because I would not
> > > > > be surprise if some drivers requires in fact an HW specific header,
> > > > > that the driver can generate as needed.
> > > >
> > > > I like this idea, because it implies that the driver should deal with
> > > > the specificities of the hardware, instead of making the blurrying the
> > > > lines of stateless API for covering these cases.
> > >
> > > The spec says
> > >
> > > "Offset in bytes to video data in the plane. Drivers must set this
> > > field when type refers to a capture stream, applications when it
> > > refers to an output stream."
> > >
> > > which would mean that user space would have to know to reserve some
> > > bytes at the beginning for the driver to add the start code there. (Or
> > > the driver memmove()ing the data forward when the buffer is queued,
> > > assuming that there is enough space in the buffer, but it should
> > > normally be the case.)
> > >
> > > Sounds like a pixel format with full bitstream data and some offsets
> > > to particular parts inside given inside a control might be the most
> > > flexible and cleanest solution.
> >
> > I can't help but think that bringing the whole bitstream over to the
> > kernel with a dedicated pix fmt just for the sake of having 3 start code
> > bytes is rather overkill anyway.
> >
> > I believe moving the data around to be the best call for this situation.
> > Or maybe there's a way to alloc more data *before* the bufer that is
> > exposed to userspace, so userspace can fill it normally and the driver
> > can bring-in the necessary heading start code bytes before the buffer?
>
> After thinking this over for some time, I believe it boils down to
> whether we can have an in-kernel library for turning H264 (and other
> codec) header structs back into a bitstream, if we end up with more
> than one driver need to do it. If that's fine, I think we're okay with
> having just the parsed pixel format around.
>
> Note that I didn't think about this with the Rockchip driver in mind,
> since it indeed only needs few bytes.

By the way, Alex posted an RFC with stateless codec interface documentation:
https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/10583233/

I think we should move any discussion there, to have everything in one place.

Best regards,
Tomasz

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From: tfiga@chromium.org (Tomasz Figa)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 1/9] CHROMIUM: v4l: Add H264 low-level decoder API compound controls.
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2018 16:54:40 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAFQd5DrCeDAvwBFt+Gh_mFcDRceO-nazDPDGoCVnGF=wj5aaQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAFQd5Az89KTS_+VBUMHX3Eice+OKQn66Hw0rBusf4g6rSJ7VA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 5:11 PM Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 11:45 PM Paul Kocialkowski
> <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Wed, 2018-08-22 at 22:38 +0900, Tomasz Figa wrote:
> > > On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 10:07 PM Paul Kocialkowski
> > > <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 2018-08-21 at 13:07 -0400, Nicolas Dufresne wrote:
> > > > > Le mardi 21 ao?t 2018 ? 13:58 -0300, Ezequiel Garcia a ?crit :
> > > > > > On Wed, 2018-06-13 at 16:07 +0200, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> > > > > > > From: Pawel Osciak <posciak@chromium.org>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Pawel Osciak <posciak@chromium.org>
> > > > > > > Reviewed-by: Wu-cheng Li <wuchengli@chromium.org>
> > > > > > > Tested-by: Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org>
> > > > > > > [rebase44(groeck): include linux/types.h in v4l2-controls.h]
> > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Guenter Roeck <groeck@chromium.org>
> > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@bootlin.com>
> > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [..]
> > > > > > > diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/videodev2.h
> > > > > > > b/include/uapi/linux/videodev2.h
> > > > > > > index 242a6bfa1440..4b4a1b25a0db 100644
> > > > > > > --- a/include/uapi/linux/videodev2.h
> > > > > > > +++ b/include/uapi/linux/videodev2.h
> > > > > > > @@ -626,6 +626,7 @@ struct v4l2_pix_format {
> > > > > > >  #define V4L2_PIX_FMT_H264     v4l2_fourcc('H', '2', '6', '4') /*
> > > > > > > H264 with start codes */
> > > > > > >  #define V4L2_PIX_FMT_H264_NO_SC v4l2_fourcc('A', 'V', 'C', '1') /*
> > > > > > > H264 without start codes */
> > > > > > >  #define V4L2_PIX_FMT_H264_MVC v4l2_fourcc('M', '2', '6', '4') /*
> > > > > > > H264 MVC */
> > > > > > > +#define V4L2_PIX_FMT_H264_SLICE v4l2_fourcc('S', '2', '6', '4') /*
> > > > > > > H264 parsed slices */
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As pointed out by Tomasz, the Rockchip VPU driver expects start codes
> > > > > > [1], so the userspace
> > > > > > should be aware of it. Perhaps we could document this pixel format
> > > > > > better as:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > #define V4L2_PIX_FMT_H264_SLICE v4l2_fourcc('S', '2', '6', '4') /*
> > > > > > H264 parsed slices with start codes */
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And introduce another pixel format:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > #define V4L2_PIX_FMT_H264_SLICE_NO_SC v4l2_fourcc(TODO) /* H264
> > > > > > parsed slices without start codes */
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For cedrus to use, as it seems it doesn't need start codes.
> > > > >
> > > > > I must admit that this RK requirement is a bit weird for slice data.
> > > > > Though, userspace wise, always adding start-code would be compatible,
> > > > > as the driver can just offset to remove it.
> > > >
> > > > This would mean that the stateless API no longer takes parsed bitstream
> > > > data but effectively the full bitstream, which defeats the purpose of
> > > > the _SLICE pixel formats.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Not entirely. One of the purposes of the _SLICE pixel format was to
> > > specify it in a way that adds a requirement of providing the required
> > > controls by the client.
> >
> > I think we need to define what we want the stateless APIs (and these
> > formats) to precisely reflect conceptually. I've started discussing this
> > in the Request API and V4L2 capabilities thread.
> >
> > > > > Another option, because I'm not fan of adding dedicated formats for
> > > > > this, the RK driver could use data_offset (in mplane v4l2 buffers),
> > > > > just write a start code there. I like this solution because I would not
> > > > > be surprise if some drivers requires in fact an HW specific header,
> > > > > that the driver can generate as needed.
> > > >
> > > > I like this idea, because it implies that the driver should deal with
> > > > the specificities of the hardware, instead of making the blurrying the
> > > > lines of stateless API for covering these cases.
> > >
> > > The spec says
> > >
> > > "Offset in bytes to video data in the plane. Drivers must set this
> > > field when type refers to a capture stream, applications when it
> > > refers to an output stream."
> > >
> > > which would mean that user space would have to know to reserve some
> > > bytes at the beginning for the driver to add the start code there. (Or
> > > the driver memmove()ing the data forward when the buffer is queued,
> > > assuming that there is enough space in the buffer, but it should
> > > normally be the case.)
> > >
> > > Sounds like a pixel format with full bitstream data and some offsets
> > > to particular parts inside given inside a control might be the most
> > > flexible and cleanest solution.
> >
> > I can't help but think that bringing the whole bitstream over to the
> > kernel with a dedicated pix fmt just for the sake of having 3 start code
> > bytes is rather overkill anyway.
> >
> > I believe moving the data around to be the best call for this situation.
> > Or maybe there's a way to alloc more data *before* the bufer that is
> > exposed to userspace, so userspace can fill it normally and the driver
> > can bring-in the necessary heading start code bytes before the buffer?
>
> After thinking this over for some time, I believe it boils down to
> whether we can have an in-kernel library for turning H264 (and other
> codec) header structs back into a bitstream, if we end up with more
> than one driver need to do it. If that's fine, I think we're okay with
> having just the parsed pixel format around.
>
> Note that I didn't think about this with the Rockchip driver in mind,
> since it indeed only needs few bytes.

By the way, Alex posted an RFC with stateless codec interface documentation:
https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/10583233/

I think we should move any discussion there, to have everything in one place.

Best regards,
Tomasz

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-07  7:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-13 14:07 [PATCH 0/9] media: cedrus: Add H264 decoding support Maxime Ripard
2018-06-13 14:07 ` Maxime Ripard
2018-06-13 14:07 ` [PATCH 1/9] CHROMIUM: v4l: Add H264 low-level decoder API compound controls Maxime Ripard
2018-06-13 14:07   ` Maxime Ripard
2018-06-15 11:59   ` Hans Verkuil
2018-06-15 11:59     ` Hans Verkuil
2018-06-15 13:01     ` Guenter Roeck
2018-06-15 13:01       ` Guenter Roeck
2018-07-12 16:38     ` Maxime Ripard
2018-07-12 16:38       ` Maxime Ripard
2018-07-12 16:47       ` Andrew Lunn
2018-07-12 16:47         ` Andrew Lunn
2018-06-21  8:58   ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-06-21  8:58     ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-08-21 16:58   ` Ezequiel Garcia
2018-08-21 16:58     ` Ezequiel Garcia
2018-08-21 17:07     ` Nicolas Dufresne
2018-08-21 17:07       ` Nicolas Dufresne
2018-08-22 13:07       ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-08-22 13:07         ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-08-22 13:38         ` Tomasz Figa
2018-08-22 13:38           ` Tomasz Figa
2018-08-22 13:52           ` Nicolas Dufresne
2018-08-22 13:52             ` Nicolas Dufresne
2018-08-22 14:45           ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-08-22 14:45             ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-08-28  8:11             ` Tomasz Figa
2018-08-28  8:11               ` Tomasz Figa
2018-09-07  7:54               ` Tomasz Figa [this message]
2018-09-07  7:54                 ` Tomasz Figa
2018-08-22  9:15     ` Maxime Ripard
2018-08-22  9:15       ` Maxime Ripard
2018-08-22  9:54       ` Tomasz Figa
2018-08-22  9:54         ` Tomasz Figa
2018-08-22 13:03         ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-08-22 13:03           ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-08-22 13:24           ` Tomasz Figa
2018-08-22 13:24             ` Tomasz Figa
2018-08-22 14:03             ` Nicolas Dufresne
2018-08-22 14:03               ` Nicolas Dufresne
2018-08-22 14:30             ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-08-22 14:30               ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-06-13 14:07 ` [PATCH 2/9] media: cedrus: Add wrappers around container_of for our buffers Maxime Ripard
2018-06-13 14:07   ` Maxime Ripard
2018-06-21  9:03   ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-06-21  9:03     ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-06-13 14:07 ` [PATCH 3/9] media: cedrus: Add a macro to check for the validity of a control Maxime Ripard
2018-06-13 14:07   ` Maxime Ripard
2018-06-21  9:13   ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-06-21  9:13     ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-06-13 14:07 ` [PATCH 4/9] media: cedrus: make engine type more generic Maxime Ripard
2018-06-13 14:07   ` Maxime Ripard
2018-06-21  9:33   ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-06-21  9:33     ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-06-13 14:07 ` [PATCH 5/9] media: cedrus: Remove MPEG1 support Maxime Ripard
2018-06-13 14:07   ` Maxime Ripard
2018-06-13 14:07 ` [PATCH 6/9] media: cedrus: Add ops structure Maxime Ripard
2018-06-13 14:07   ` Maxime Ripard
2018-06-21  9:49   ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-06-21  9:49     ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-06-25 13:29     ` Maxime Ripard
2018-06-25 13:29       ` Maxime Ripard
2018-06-25 13:48       ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-06-25 13:48         ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-06-13 14:07 ` [PATCH 7/9] media: cedrus: Move IRQ maintainance to cedrus_dec_ops Maxime Ripard
2018-06-13 14:07   ` Maxime Ripard
2018-06-21 15:35   ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-06-21 15:35     ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-06-25 14:18     ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-06-25 14:18       ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-06-25 16:15       ` Maxime Ripard
2018-06-25 16:15         ` Maxime Ripard
2018-06-25 15:38   ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-06-25 15:38     ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-06-25 15:49     ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-06-25 15:49       ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-06-25 19:01       ` Maxime Ripard
2018-06-25 19:01         ` Maxime Ripard
2018-06-27 17:58       ` Maxime Ripard
2018-06-27 17:58         ` Maxime Ripard
2018-06-13 14:07 ` [PATCH 8/9] media: cedrus: Add start and stop decoder operations Maxime Ripard
2018-06-13 14:07   ` Maxime Ripard
2018-06-21 15:38   ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-06-21 15:38     ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-06-25 13:32     ` Maxime Ripard
2018-06-25 13:32       ` Maxime Ripard
2018-06-25 13:42       ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-06-25 13:42         ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-06-13 14:07 ` [PATCH 9/9] media: cedrus: Add H264 decoding support Maxime Ripard
2018-06-13 14:07   ` Maxime Ripard
2018-07-27 13:56   ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-07-27 13:56     ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-07-27 14:01     ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2018-07-27 14:01       ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2018-07-27 14:03       ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-07-27 14:03         ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-07-30 12:54   ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-07-30 12:54     ` Paul Kocialkowski
2018-06-14 13:00 ` [PATCH 0/9] " Tomasz Figa
2018-06-14 13:00   ` Tomasz Figa
2018-06-14 16:37   ` Maxime Ripard
2018-06-14 16:37     ` Maxime Ripard

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