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From: Anup Patel <anup@brainfault.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Anup Patel <Anup.Patel@wdc.com>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@sifive.com>,
	Albert Ou <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>,
	Atish Patra <Atish.Patra@wdc.com>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	"linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 4/4] RISC-V: Allow booting kernel from any 4KB aligned address
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 18:18:45 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAhSdy2dds7pp8=XX+zbKbMoWbgjPxP6r4aMZJeHyqHV2MP4CQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190325113935.GD27843@infradead.org>

On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 5:09 PM Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> I'm still not sold on this at all.  It is a lot more code, a lot harder
> to read code and all for a very narrow corner case that isn't even
> going to be enabled in default configs.

In case you missed my previous response about why its not just
about a very narrow corner case ......


We trying to addresses following issues in current code:
1. The current setup_vm() maps all possible kernel virtual addresses (128GB
on 64bit system and 1GB on 32bit system). The amount RAM present on
real systems might be much less so we should not have kernel mappings for
non-existent RAM. Of course, we don't know amount of RAM available in
setup_vm() so we have to split page table setup in two parts and do minimal
required mapping in setup_vm().
2. NOMMU kernel requires a swapper_pg_dir with identity mapping (VA == PA)
and without it we get boot-time crash so we cannot skip it for NOMMU case. For
NOMMU, the PAGE_OFFSET will typically be 0x80020000 (or 0x80xxxxxx). This
means swapper_pmd array (which uses -PAGE_OFFSET) will be over-sized
causing compile errors.
3. For both NOMMU with tiny memory and MMU with tiny memory, the current
setup_vm() is not allowing us to place kernel on non-2M (or non-4M) aligned
addressed there by causing memory below kernel to be wasted.
4. For MMU based kernel, the current setup_vm() is hard-wired for fixed 2M
mapping size. It will require more changes if we want to do 1G mappings.

The above issues motivated us to re-write setup_vm().

We are trying to make initial page table setup more flexible and robust so that:
1. We don't have any unwanted mappings pointing to non-existent RAM
2. We can have any value of PAGE_OFFSET for NOMMU case without the
page table arrays becoming oversized
3. We can create mappings of best possible size to get good performance
4. We can boot from any 4K/2M/1G (or just 4K) aligned load address

Also, the end result of all this is a much more readable page table setup code
shared between setup_vm() an setup_vm_final() where the differences are
abstracted via mapping ops.


Regards,
Anup

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Anup Patel <anup@brainfault.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@sifive.com>,
	Anup Patel <Anup.Patel@wdc.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>,
	Atish Patra <Atish.Patra@wdc.com>,
	Albert Ou <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	"linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 4/4] RISC-V: Allow booting kernel from any 4KB aligned address
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 18:18:45 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAhSdy2dds7pp8=XX+zbKbMoWbgjPxP6r4aMZJeHyqHV2MP4CQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190325113935.GD27843@infradead.org>

On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 5:09 PM Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> I'm still not sold on this at all.  It is a lot more code, a lot harder
> to read code and all for a very narrow corner case that isn't even
> going to be enabled in default configs.

In case you missed my previous response about why its not just
about a very narrow corner case ......


We trying to addresses following issues in current code:
1. The current setup_vm() maps all possible kernel virtual addresses (128GB
on 64bit system and 1GB on 32bit system). The amount RAM present on
real systems might be much less so we should not have kernel mappings for
non-existent RAM. Of course, we don't know amount of RAM available in
setup_vm() so we have to split page table setup in two parts and do minimal
required mapping in setup_vm().
2. NOMMU kernel requires a swapper_pg_dir with identity mapping (VA == PA)
and without it we get boot-time crash so we cannot skip it for NOMMU case. For
NOMMU, the PAGE_OFFSET will typically be 0x80020000 (or 0x80xxxxxx). This
means swapper_pmd array (which uses -PAGE_OFFSET) will be over-sized
causing compile errors.
3. For both NOMMU with tiny memory and MMU with tiny memory, the current
setup_vm() is not allowing us to place kernel on non-2M (or non-4M) aligned
addressed there by causing memory below kernel to be wasted.
4. For MMU based kernel, the current setup_vm() is hard-wired for fixed 2M
mapping size. It will require more changes if we want to do 1G mappings.

The above issues motivated us to re-write setup_vm().

We are trying to make initial page table setup more flexible and robust so that:
1. We don't have any unwanted mappings pointing to non-existent RAM
2. We can have any value of PAGE_OFFSET for NOMMU case without the
page table arrays becoming oversized
3. We can create mappings of best possible size to get good performance
4. We can boot from any 4K/2M/1G (or just 4K) aligned load address

Also, the end result of all this is a much more readable page table setup code
shared between setup_vm() an setup_vm_final() where the differences are
abstracted via mapping ops.


Regards,
Anup

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-03-25 12:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-25  9:22 [PATCH v3 0/4] Boot RISC-V kernel from any 4KB aligned address Anup Patel
2019-03-25  9:22 ` Anup Patel
2019-03-25  9:23 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] RISC-V: Add separate defconfig for 32bit systems Anup Patel
2019-03-25  9:23   ` Anup Patel
2019-03-25  9:23 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] RISC-V: Fix memory reservation in setup_bootmem() Anup Patel
2019-03-25  9:23   ` Anup Patel
2019-03-25 11:38   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-03-25 11:38     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-03-25 16:13   ` Mike Rapoport
2019-03-25 16:13     ` Mike Rapoport
2019-04-24 21:06   ` Palmer Dabbelt
2019-04-24 21:06     ` Palmer Dabbelt
2019-03-25  9:23 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] RISC-V: Remove redundant trampoline page table Anup Patel
2019-03-25  9:23   ` Anup Patel
2019-03-25 11:38   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-03-25 11:38     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-03-25  9:23 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] RISC-V: Allow booting kernel from any 4KB aligned address Anup Patel
2019-03-25  9:23   ` Anup Patel
2019-03-25 11:39   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-03-25 11:39     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-03-25 12:42     ` Anup Patel
2019-03-25 12:42       ` Anup Patel
2019-03-25 14:55       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-03-25 14:55         ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-03-25 12:48     ` Anup Patel [this message]
2019-03-25 12:48       ` Anup Patel
2019-03-25 14:59       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-03-25 14:59         ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-03-25 16:16         ` Anup Patel
2019-03-25 16:16           ` Anup Patel
2019-03-25 17:35           ` Gary Guo
2019-03-26  9:43             ` Anup Patel
2019-03-27  7:54           ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-03-27  7:54             ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-03-28  7:55             ` Mike Rapoport
2019-03-28  7:55               ` Mike Rapoport
2019-03-28  9:52               ` Anup Patel
2019-03-28  9:52                 ` Anup Patel
2019-03-28 10:24                 ` Anup Patel
2019-03-28 10:24                   ` Anup Patel
2019-03-28 15:35 Anthony Coulter
2019-03-28 15:35 ` Anthony Coulter

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