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From: "Ross Burton" <ross@burtonini.com>
To: Robert Karszniewicz <r.karszniewicz@phytec.de>
Cc: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org
Subject: Re: [oe] [meta-oe][PATCH] firmwared: add recipe
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 15:57:08 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAnfSTsiDvMtVvgUKpQHLJSrPCPeLMdgikGVK9rCt4YbaOqejA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e158ef54-c4c2-c29a-d906-3d4a4b710bd4@phytec.de>

Fair enough, thanks.  Pretty slim use case if most distributions turn
it off, and the tool is unmaintained.  I wonder if anyone is testing
that codepath...

Ross

On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 at 15:33, Robert Karszniewicz
<r.karszniewicz@phytec.de> wrote:
>
> On 12/7/20 11:49 AM, Ross Burton wrote:
> > Last touched four years ago.  Isn't this what udev does?  If this is
> > for people who don't want udev, I suggest you make that clear in the
> > summary.
>
> It's not a matter of whether they want to, but they can't. At least from
> what I
> can see, udev has removed support for loading firmware six years ago.
> Am I missing something?
>
> See this paragraph in kernel documentation
> Documentation/driver-api/firmware/fallback-mechanisms.rst:
>
>    Different implementations have been supported in userspace to take
> advantage of
>    this fallback mechanism. When firmware loading was only possible
> using the
>    sysfs mechanism the userspace component "hotplug" provided the
> functionality of
>    monitoring for kobject events. Historically this was superseded be
> systemd's
>    udev, however firmware loading support was removed from udev as of
> systemd
>    commit be2ea723b1d0 ("udev: remove userspace firmware loading support")
>    as of v217 on August, 2014. This means most Linux distributions today are
>    not using or taking advantage of the firmware fallback mechanism provided
>    by kobject uevents. This is specially exacerbated due to the fact
> that most
>    distributions today disable CONFIG_FW_LOADER_USER_HELPER_FALLBACK.
>
> Regards,
> Robert

      reply	other threads:[~2020-12-08 15:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-04 17:05 [meta-oe][PATCH] firmwared: add recipe r.karszniewicz
2020-12-04 17:54 ` [oe] " Jose Quaresma
2020-12-04 19:27 ` Khem Raj
2020-12-07 10:49 ` Ross Burton
2020-12-08 15:33   ` Robert Karszniewicz
2020-12-08 15:57     ` Ross Burton [this message]

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