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From: "Marek Olšák" <maraeo@gmail.com>
To: Dylan Baker <dylan@pnwbakers.com>
Cc: "mesa-dev@lists.freedesktop.org" <mesa-dev@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC libdrm 0/2] Replace the build system with meson
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2017 02:53:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAxE2A7ewA4LBqbSufM3sYxMk37d8+6Uk7U_UH782aAYVkt3Mg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <148970590830.15211.16120083890710049682@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 12:11 AM, Dylan Baker <dylan@pnwbakers.com> wrote:
> Quoting Marek Olšák (2017-03-16 15:36:26)
>> Is there a way not to use ninja with meson, because ninja redirects
>> all stderr output from gcc to stdout, which breaks many development
>> environments that expect errors in stderr?
>>
>> I'm basically saying that if ninja can't keep gcc errors in stderr, I
>> wouldn't like any project that I might be involved in to require ninja
>> for building.
>>
>> Marek
>
> There is no way to use another backend on Linux, and meson will not support
> Make. Ninja is a big part of the appeal here, since it is faster than make is.
> Are there particular tools you know don't work with ninja? It seems like in the
> 7+ years since ninja came out that someone would have fixed the tools, or that
> some stream redirection could be used to fix the problem, "ninja 1>&2"?

I actually read some thread about it and the conclusion seemed to be
that ninja developers don't care. I have no other option than to
believe that ninja was made for automated build bots, not for
development.

Some editors expect that errors and only errors go to stderr and all
other garbage info goes to stdout. This is something I can't change.

Marek
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-17  1:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-16 21:25 [RFC libdrm 0/2] Replace the build system with meson Dylan Baker
2017-03-16 21:25 ` [RFC libdrm 1/2] Port build system to meson Dylan Baker
2017-03-16 21:25 ` [RFC libdrm 2/2] remove autotools build Dylan Baker
2017-03-16 21:32 ` [RFC libdrm 0/2] Replace the build system with meson Ilia Mirkin
2017-03-16 21:57   ` Dylan Baker
2017-03-17 10:05     ` Neil Armstrong
2017-03-16 22:36 ` Marek Olšák
2017-03-16 23:11   ` Dylan Baker
2017-03-17  1:53     ` Marek Olšák [this message]
2017-03-17  4:15       ` Dylan Baker
2017-03-17 21:18         ` Marek Olšák
2017-03-22 17:26   ` Jose Fonseca
2017-03-22 17:50     ` [Mesa-dev] " Marek Olšák
2017-03-16 23:35 ` Emil Velikov
2017-03-17  0:21   ` Dylan Baker
2017-03-17  0:41     ` Emil Velikov
2017-03-17  2:03       ` Jason Ekstrand
2017-03-17  2:28         ` Brian Paul
2017-03-22 17:59           ` Jose Fonseca
2017-03-22 20:57             ` [Mesa-dev] " Dylan Baker
2017-03-22 22:02               ` Rob Clark
2017-03-22 22:15                 ` Eric Anholt
2017-03-22 22:33                   ` Dylan Baker
2017-03-24 14:03               ` Jose Fonseca
2017-03-24 14:22                 ` [Mesa-dev] " Daniel Stone
2017-03-24 15:47                   ` Jose Fonseca
2017-03-25 20:15                     ` [Mesa-dev] " Rob Clark
2017-03-24 16:23                 ` Bas Nieuwenhuizen
2017-03-17  4:12         ` Dylan Baker
2017-03-17  6:02           ` Jonathan Gray
2017-03-20 13:55         ` [Mesa-dev] " Emil Velikov
2017-03-20 18:30           ` Matt Turner
2017-03-20 19:39             ` [Mesa-dev] " Emil Velikov
2017-03-20 21:28               ` Timothy Arceri
2017-03-20 21:38                 ` Jason Ekstrand
2017-03-21  5:00                 ` Jonathan Gray
2017-03-21 16:00                   ` Matt Turner
2017-03-23 12:23                   ` Jonathan Gray
2017-03-23 18:31                   ` Emil Velikov
2017-03-21 15:57               ` [Mesa-dev] " Matt Turner
2017-03-21 17:16                 ` Emil Velikov
2017-03-21 18:06                   ` Matt Turner
2017-03-21 18:56                     ` [Mesa-dev] " Emil Velikov
2017-03-21 19:08                       ` Jason Ekstrand
2017-03-21 19:10                       ` [Mesa-dev] " Matt Turner
2017-03-22 17:16                         ` Emil Velikov
2017-03-24 20:59                     ` Chad Versace
2017-03-24 20:44                 ` [Mesa-dev] " Chad Versace
2017-03-28 16:59                   ` Emil Velikov
2017-03-28 23:19                     ` Timothy Arceri
2017-03-21  5:10             ` Jonathan Gray
2017-03-21 16:11               ` [Mesa-dev] " Matt Turner
2017-03-24 16:58             ` randyf
2017-03-20 19:29           ` Rob Clark
2017-03-21 14:44 ` Jani Nikula
2017-03-21 15:13   ` Grazvydas Ignotas
2017-03-21 15:15     ` Ilia Mirkin
2017-03-21 16:16     ` Dylan Baker
2017-03-21 16:22   ` Dylan Baker
2017-03-22  4:23     ` [Mesa-dev] " Jonathan Gray
2017-03-22  8:24     ` Jani Nikula
2017-03-22 21:05       ` Dylan Baker
2017-03-23  8:13         ` Jani Nikula
2017-03-21 16:50 ` Kai Wasserbäch
2017-03-21 17:34   ` Dylan Baker
2017-03-21 18:36     ` [Mesa-dev] " Kai Wasserbäch
2017-03-21 21:16       ` Dylan Baker
2017-03-22 16:40 ` Alex Deucher
2017-03-22 17:07   ` Rob Clark
2017-03-22 20:10     ` [Mesa-dev] " Dylan Baker
2017-03-22 21:48       ` Rob Clark
2017-03-23 21:56         ` Greg Hackmann
2017-03-23 22:14           ` Colin Cross
2017-03-23 23:56             ` Dylan Baker
2017-03-24  0:03               ` [Mesa-dev] " Colin Cross
2017-03-24 16:54                 ` Dylan Baker
2017-03-23  1:18       ` [Mesa-dev] " Jonathan Gray
2017-03-23  1:38         ` Rob Clark
2017-03-24 13:42           ` Jose Fonseca
2017-03-24 17:13             ` Dylan Baker
2017-03-24 17:51               ` Eric Anholt
2017-03-24 18:34                 ` [Mesa-dev] " Daniel Stone
2017-03-24 19:10             ` Kristian Høgsberg
2017-03-24 19:44               ` Jose Fonseca
2017-03-24 20:08                 ` Kristian Høgsberg
2017-03-24 21:16                   ` Jose Fonseca
2017-03-24 21:20                     ` Jason Ekstrand
2017-03-24 21:34                     ` [Mesa-dev] " Rob Clark
2017-03-25  1:25                     ` Dylan Baker
2017-03-24 21:09               ` [Mesa-dev] " Rob Clark
2017-03-23 11:39       ` Emil Velikov
2017-03-23 17:54         ` Dylan Baker
2017-03-25  1:06         ` Kenneth Graunke
2017-03-22 22:30   ` [Mesa-dev] " Eric Anholt

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