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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com, mst@redhat.com,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	xieyongji@bytedance.com,
	Maxime Coquelin <maxime.coquelin@redhat.com>,
	eperezma@redhat.com, david.marchand@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/2] vduse: add support for networking devices
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2023 15:08:59 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACGkMEvtBQg5fTTzSaMRwZH7P3WiDx0=eov9RdCtSFaHVtbh1w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZEGG2GJw2DQk689j@x1n>

On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 2:39 AM Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 12:34:06PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > 3. Coredump:
> > >   In order to be able to perform post-mortem analysis, DPDK
> > >   Vhost library marks pages used for vrings and descriptors
> > >   buffers as MADV_DODUMP using madvise(). However with
> > >   VDUSE it fails with -EINVAL. My understanding is that we
> > >   set VM_DONTEXPAND flag to the VMAs and madvise's
> > >   MADV_DODUMP fails if it is present. I'm not sure to
> > >   understand why madvise would prevent MADV_DODUMP if
> > >   VM_DONTEXPAND is set. Any thoughts?
> >
> > Adding Peter who may know the answer.
>
> I don't.. but I had a quick look, it seems that VM_DONTEXPAND was kind of
> reused (and I'm not sure whether it's an abuse or not so far..) to
> represent device driver pages since removal of VM_RESERVED:

Interesting, but there're indeed cases where VM_DONTEXPAND is used by
non-driver codes. The pages mapped by VDUSE are not device driver
pages but the IOTLB and virtqueue.

Btw the definition of VM_SPECIAL doesn't say anything related to dump:

/*
 * Special vmas that are non-mergable, non-mlock()able.
 */
#define VM_SPECIAL (VM_IO | VM_DONTEXPAND | VM_PFNMAP | VM_MIXEDMAP)

>
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20120731103457.20182.88454.stgit@zurg/
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20120731103503.20182.94365.stgit@zurg/
>
> But I think that change at least breaks hugetlb once so there's the
> explicit hugetlb check to recover that behavior back:
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20180930054629.29150-1-daniel@linux.ibm.com/

This seems similar to the case of VDUSE.

Thanks

>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Peter Xu
>

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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: Maxime Coquelin <maxime.coquelin@redhat.com>,
	xieyongji@bytedance.com, mst@redhat.com,
	david.marchand@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com,
	eperezma@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/2] vduse: add support for networking devices
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2023 15:08:59 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACGkMEvtBQg5fTTzSaMRwZH7P3WiDx0=eov9RdCtSFaHVtbh1w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZEGG2GJw2DQk689j@x1n>

On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 2:39 AM Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 12:34:06PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > 3. Coredump:
> > >   In order to be able to perform post-mortem analysis, DPDK
> > >   Vhost library marks pages used for vrings and descriptors
> > >   buffers as MADV_DODUMP using madvise(). However with
> > >   VDUSE it fails with -EINVAL. My understanding is that we
> > >   set VM_DONTEXPAND flag to the VMAs and madvise's
> > >   MADV_DODUMP fails if it is present. I'm not sure to
> > >   understand why madvise would prevent MADV_DODUMP if
> > >   VM_DONTEXPAND is set. Any thoughts?
> >
> > Adding Peter who may know the answer.
>
> I don't.. but I had a quick look, it seems that VM_DONTEXPAND was kind of
> reused (and I'm not sure whether it's an abuse or not so far..) to
> represent device driver pages since removal of VM_RESERVED:

Interesting, but there're indeed cases where VM_DONTEXPAND is used by
non-driver codes. The pages mapped by VDUSE are not device driver
pages but the IOTLB and virtqueue.

Btw the definition of VM_SPECIAL doesn't say anything related to dump:

/*
 * Special vmas that are non-mergable, non-mlock()able.
 */
#define VM_SPECIAL (VM_IO | VM_DONTEXPAND | VM_PFNMAP | VM_MIXEDMAP)

>
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20120731103457.20182.88454.stgit@zurg/
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20120731103503.20182.94365.stgit@zurg/
>
> But I think that change at least breaks hugetlb once so there's the
> explicit hugetlb check to recover that behavior back:
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20180930054629.29150-1-daniel@linux.ibm.com/

This seems similar to the case of VDUSE.

Thanks

>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Peter Xu
>


  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-21  7:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-19 13:43 [RFC 0/2] vduse: add support for networking devices Maxime Coquelin
2023-04-19 13:43 ` Maxime Coquelin
2023-04-19 13:43 ` [RFC 1/2] vduse: validate block features only with block devices Maxime Coquelin
2023-04-19 13:43   ` Maxime Coquelin
2023-04-20  4:06   ` Jason Wang
2023-04-20  4:06     ` Jason Wang
2023-04-20 10:22     ` Maxime Coquelin
2023-04-20 10:22       ` Maxime Coquelin
2023-04-19 13:43 ` [RFC 2/2] vduse: enable Virtio-net device type Maxime Coquelin
2023-04-19 13:43   ` Maxime Coquelin
2023-04-20  4:34 ` [RFC 0/2] vduse: add support for networking devices Jason Wang
2023-04-20  4:34   ` Jason Wang
2023-04-20 14:16   ` Maxime Coquelin
2023-04-20 14:16     ` Maxime Coquelin
2023-04-21  5:51     ` Jason Wang
2023-04-21  5:51       ` Jason Wang
2023-04-21 14:28       ` Maxime Coquelin
2023-04-21 14:28         ` Maxime Coquelin
2023-04-23  6:30         ` Jason Wang
2023-04-23  6:30           ` Jason Wang
2023-04-23  8:22           ` Yongji Xie
2023-04-24  3:42             ` Jason Wang
2023-04-24  3:42               ` Jason Wang
2023-04-20 18:39   ` Peter Xu
2023-04-20 18:39     ` Peter Xu
2023-04-21  7:08     ` Jason Wang [this message]
2023-04-21  7:08       ` Jason Wang
2023-04-20  8:13 ` Yongji Xie
2023-04-20 14:23   ` Maxime Coquelin
2023-04-20 14:23     ` Maxime Coquelin

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