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From: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
To: Charles Keepax <ckeepax@opensource.cirrus.com>
Cc: Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/22] mfd: demodularization of non-modular drivers
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 12:48:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACRpkdZs0uSrsY66X67=h=BPy=P_5korWVM8kDbzTXrhrvKvcQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181205113535.GX16508@imbe.wolfsonmicro.main>

On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 12:36 PM Charles Keepax
<ckeepax@opensource.cirrus.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 02, 2018 at 11:23:07PM -0500, Paul Gortmaker wrote:
> > The solution to #4 is similar - we delete the ".remove" function and
> > the binding into the platform_driver struct.  However, since the same
> > ".remove" function could also be triggered by an "unbind" (such as for
> > pass-through of a device to a guest instance)  - so we also explicitly
> > disable any unbind for the driver.
> >
> > The unbind mask allows us to ensure we will see if there was some odd
> > corner case out there that was relying on it.  Typically it would be a
> > multi-port ethernet card passing a port through to a guest, so a
> > sensible use case in MFD drivers seems highly unlikely.  This same
> > solution has already been used in multiple other mainline subsystems.
> >
>
> I guess if this is a general direction thing, but it does seem
> that module unload is not the only reason one might ever unbind a
> driver. So are we sure we want to remove the option to unbind
> these drivers? Certainly for testing it is sometimes useful.

I personally never understood why these attributes are even
present on non-modular drivers.

If testing is about exercising unbind/bind to reintialize
the code through a new call to .probe(), why would the developer
not take it all the way through and make it a module?
It just looks like a half-measure.

Yours,
Linus Walleij

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
To: Charles Keepax <ckeepax@opensource.cirrus.com>
Cc: Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>,
	Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Cory Maccarrone <darkstar6262@gmail.com>,
	David Dajun Chen <dchen@diasemi.com>,
	Dong Aisheng <dong.aisheng@linaro.org>,
	Eric Miao <eric.miao@marvell.com>,
	Graeme Gregory <gg@slimlogic.co.uk>,
	Guennadi Liakhovetski <g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>,
	Haojian Zhuang <haojian.zhuang@marvell.com>,
	jinyoungp@nvidia.com,
	Jorge Eduardo Candelaria <jedu@slimlogic.co.uk>,
	Laxman Dewangan <ldewangan@nvidia.com>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>,
	Mattias NILSSON <mattias.i.nilsson@stericsson.com>,
	Michael Hennerich <michael.hennerich@analog.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <mike@compulab.co.il>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/22] mfd: demodularization of non-modular drivers
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 12:48:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACRpkdZs0uSrsY66X67=h=BPy=P_5korWVM8kDbzTXrhrvKvcQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181205113535.GX16508@imbe.wolfsonmicro.main>

On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 12:36 PM Charles Keepax
<ckeepax@opensource.cirrus.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 02, 2018 at 11:23:07PM -0500, Paul Gortmaker wrote:
> > The solution to #4 is similar - we delete the ".remove" function and
> > the binding into the platform_driver struct.  However, since the same
> > ".remove" function could also be triggered by an "unbind" (such as for
> > pass-through of a device to a guest instance)  - so we also explicitly
> > disable any unbind for the driver.
> >
> > The unbind mask allows us to ensure we will see if there was some odd
> > corner case out there that was relying on it.  Typically it would be a
> > multi-port ethernet card passing a port through to a guest, so a
> > sensible use case in MFD drivers seems highly unlikely.  This same
> > solution has already been used in multiple other mainline subsystems.
> >
>
> I guess if this is a general direction thing, but it does seem
> that module unload is not the only reason one might ever unbind a
> driver. So are we sure we want to remove the option to unbind
> these drivers? Certainly for testing it is sometimes useful.

I personally never understood why these attributes are even
present on non-modular drivers.

If testing is about exercising unbind/bind to reintialize
the code through a new call to .probe(), why would the developer
not take it all the way through and make it a module?
It just looks like a half-measure.

Yours,
Linus Walleij

  reply	other threads:[~2018-12-05 11:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-03  4:23 [PATCH v2 00/22] mfd: demodularization of non-modular drivers Paul Gortmaker
2018-12-03  4:23 ` Paul Gortmaker
2018-12-03  4:23 ` [PATCH 01/22] mfd: aat2870-core: Make it explicitly non-modular Paul Gortmaker
2018-12-03  4:23 ` [PATCH 02/22] mfd: adp5520: " Paul Gortmaker
2018-12-03  4:23 ` [PATCH 03/22] mfd: as3711: " Paul Gortmaker
2018-12-03  4:23 ` [PATCH 04/22] mfd: da903x: " Paul Gortmaker
2018-12-03  4:23 ` [PATCH 05/22] mfd: da9052-*: " Paul Gortmaker
2018-12-03  4:23 ` [PATCH 06/22] mfd: da9055-i2c: " Paul Gortmaker
2018-12-03  4:23 ` [PATCH 07/22] mfd: da9055-core: make " Paul Gortmaker
2018-12-03  4:23 ` [PATCH 08/22] mfd: db8500-prcmu: drop unused MODULE_ tags from non-modular code Paul Gortmaker
2018-12-07 12:25   ` Linus Walleij
2018-12-03  4:23 ` [PATCH 09/22] mfd: htc-i2cpld: Make it explicitly non-modular Paul Gortmaker
2018-12-03  4:23 ` [PATCH 10/22] mfd: max8925-core: drop unused MODULE_ tags from non-modular code Paul Gortmaker
2018-12-03  4:23 ` [PATCH 11/22] mfd: rc5t583: Make it explicitly non-modular Paul Gortmaker
2018-12-03  4:23 ` [PATCH 12/22] mfd: sta2x11: drop unused MODULE_ tags from non-modular code Paul Gortmaker
2018-12-03 11:14   ` Lee Jones
2018-12-03 15:07     ` Paul Gortmaker
2018-12-04  9:23       ` Davide Ciminaghi
2018-12-07 16:39     ` Alessandro Rubini
2018-12-03  4:23 ` [PATCH 13/22] mfd: syscon: Make it explicitly non-modular Paul Gortmaker
2018-12-03  4:23 ` [PATCH 14/22] mfd: tps65090: " Paul Gortmaker
2018-12-03  4:23 ` [PATCH 15/22] mfd: tps65910: " Paul Gortmaker
2018-12-03  4:23   ` Paul Gortmaker
2018-12-03  4:23 ` [PATCH 16/22] mfd: tps80031: " Paul Gortmaker
2018-12-03  4:23 ` [PATCH 17/22] mfd: wm831x-spi: " Paul Gortmaker
2018-12-03  4:23 ` [PATCH 18/22] mfd: wm831x-i2c: " Paul Gortmaker
2018-12-05 11:38   ` Charles Keepax
2018-12-07 18:16     ` Paul Gortmaker
2018-12-03  4:23 ` [PATCH 19/22] mfd: wm831x-core: drop unused MODULE_ tags from non-modular code Paul Gortmaker
2018-12-05 11:36   ` Charles Keepax
2018-12-03  4:23 ` [PATCH 20/22] mfd: wm8350-i2c: Make it explicitly non-modular Paul Gortmaker
2018-12-05 11:39   ` Charles Keepax
2018-12-03  4:23 ` [PATCH 21/22] mfd: wm8350-core: drop unused MODULE_ tags from non-modular code Paul Gortmaker
2018-12-05 11:39   ` Charles Keepax
2018-12-03  4:23 ` [PATCH 22/22] mfd: wm8400-core: Make it explicitly non-modular Paul Gortmaker
2018-12-05 11:41   ` Charles Keepax
2018-12-05 11:35 ` [PATCH v2 00/22] mfd: demodularization of non-modular drivers Charles Keepax
2018-12-05 11:35   ` Charles Keepax
2018-12-05 11:48   ` Linus Walleij [this message]
2018-12-05 11:48     ` Linus Walleij
2018-12-05 13:40     ` Charles Keepax
2018-12-05 13:40       ` Charles Keepax
2018-12-05 11:50 ` Linus Walleij
2018-12-05 11:50   ` Linus Walleij
2018-12-05 12:01 ` Steve Twiss
2018-12-05 12:01   ` Steve Twiss
2018-12-05 12:12   ` Steve Twiss
2018-12-05 12:12     ` Steve Twiss
2018-12-05 18:08   ` Paul Gortmaker
2018-12-05 18:08     ` Paul Gortmaker
     [not found]   ` <20181207203021.GR23156@windriver.com>
2019-08-07 10:43     ` Steve Twiss

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