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From: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alexander Popov <alex.popov@linux.com>,
	Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@virtuozzo.com>,
	Quentin Casasnovas <quentin.casasnovas@oracle.com>,
	andreyknvl <andreyknvl@google.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Vegard Nossum <vegard.nossum@oracle.com>,
	syzkaller <syzkaller@googlegroups.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] kcov: support comparison operands collection
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 20:46:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACT4Y+apUD89-neN7GUsbdZ9a1hMgRPQk-h4dhC9iDf+_6Kh=w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171009183734.GA7784@leverpostej>

On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 8:37 PM, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 09, 2017 at 08:15:10PM +0200, 'Dmitry Vyukov' via syzkaller wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> wrote:
>> > On Mon, Oct 09, 2017 at 05:05:19PM +0200, Alexander Potapenko wrote:
>
>> > ... I note that a few places in the kernel use a 128-bit type. Are
>> > 128-bit comparisons not instrumented?
>>
>> Yes, they are not instrumented.
>> How many are there? Can you give some examples?
>
> From a quick scan, it doesn't looks like there are currently any
> comparisons.
>
> It's used as a data type in a few places under arm64:
>
> arch/arm64/include/asm/checksum.h:      __uint128_t tmp;
> arch/arm64/include/asm/checksum.h:      tmp = *(const __uint128_t *)iph;
> arch/arm64/include/asm/fpsimd.h:                        __uint128_t vregs[32];
> arch/arm64/include/uapi/asm/ptrace.h:   __uint128_t     vregs[32];
> arch/arm64/include/uapi/asm/sigcontext.h:       __uint128_t vregs[32];
> arch/arm64/kernel/signal32.c:   __uint128_t     raw;
> arch/arm64/kvm/guest.c: __uint128_t tmp;


Then I think we just continue ignoring them for now :)
In the future we can extend kcov to trace 128-bits values. We will
need to add a special flag and write 2 consecutive entries for them.
Or something along these lines.


>> >> +     area = t->kcov_area;
>> >> +     /* The first 64-bit word is the number of subsequent PCs. */
>> >> +     pos = READ_ONCE(area[0]) + 1;
>> >> +     if (likely(pos < t->kcov_size)) {
>> >> +             area[pos] = ip;
>> >> +             WRITE_ONCE(area[0], pos);
>> >
>> > Not a new problem, but if the area for one thread is mmap'd, and read by
>> > another thread, these two writes could be seen out-of-order, since we
>> > don't have an smp_wmb() between them.
>> >
>> > I guess Syzkaller doesn't read the mmap'd kcov file from another thread?
>>
>>
>> Yes, that's the intention. If you read coverage from another thread,
>> you can't know coverage from what exactly you read. So the usage
>> pattern is:
>>
>> reset coverage;
>> do something;
>> read coverage;
>
> Ok. I guess without a use-case for reading this from another thread it doesn't
> really matter.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark.

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From: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alexander Popov <alex.popov@linux.com>,
	Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@virtuozzo.com>,
	Quentin Casasnovas <quentin.casasnovas@oracle.com>,
	andreyknvl <andreyknvl@google.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Vegard Nossum <vegard.nossum@oracle.com>,
	syzkaller <syzkaller@googlegroups.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] kcov: support comparison operands collection
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 20:46:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACT4Y+apUD89-neN7GUsbdZ9a1hMgRPQk-h4dhC9iDf+_6Kh=w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171009183734.GA7784@leverpostej>

On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 8:37 PM, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 09, 2017 at 08:15:10PM +0200, 'Dmitry Vyukov' via syzkaller wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> wrote:
>> > On Mon, Oct 09, 2017 at 05:05:19PM +0200, Alexander Potapenko wrote:
>
>> > ... I note that a few places in the kernel use a 128-bit type. Are
>> > 128-bit comparisons not instrumented?
>>
>> Yes, they are not instrumented.
>> How many are there? Can you give some examples?
>
> From a quick scan, it doesn't looks like there are currently any
> comparisons.
>
> It's used as a data type in a few places under arm64:
>
> arch/arm64/include/asm/checksum.h:      __uint128_t tmp;
> arch/arm64/include/asm/checksum.h:      tmp = *(const __uint128_t *)iph;
> arch/arm64/include/asm/fpsimd.h:                        __uint128_t vregs[32];
> arch/arm64/include/uapi/asm/ptrace.h:   __uint128_t     vregs[32];
> arch/arm64/include/uapi/asm/sigcontext.h:       __uint128_t vregs[32];
> arch/arm64/kernel/signal32.c:   __uint128_t     raw;
> arch/arm64/kvm/guest.c: __uint128_t tmp;


Then I think we just continue ignoring them for now :)
In the future we can extend kcov to trace 128-bits values. We will
need to add a special flag and write 2 consecutive entries for them.
Or something along these lines.


>> >> +     area = t->kcov_area;
>> >> +     /* The first 64-bit word is the number of subsequent PCs. */
>> >> +     pos = READ_ONCE(area[0]) + 1;
>> >> +     if (likely(pos < t->kcov_size)) {
>> >> +             area[pos] = ip;
>> >> +             WRITE_ONCE(area[0], pos);
>> >
>> > Not a new problem, but if the area for one thread is mmap'd, and read by
>> > another thread, these two writes could be seen out-of-order, since we
>> > don't have an smp_wmb() between them.
>> >
>> > I guess Syzkaller doesn't read the mmap'd kcov file from another thread?
>>
>>
>> Yes, that's the intention. If you read coverage from another thread,
>> you can't know coverage from what exactly you read. So the usage
>> pattern is:
>>
>> reset coverage;
>> do something;
>> read coverage;
>
> Ok. I guess without a use-case for reading this from another thread it doesn't
> really matter.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark.

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-09 18:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-09 15:05 [PATCH v2 1/3] kcov: support comparison operands collection Alexander Potapenko
2017-10-09 15:05 ` Alexander Potapenko
2017-10-09 15:05 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] Makefile: support flag -fsanitizer-coverage=trace-cmp Alexander Potapenko
2017-10-09 15:05   ` Alexander Potapenko
2017-10-09 15:53   ` Andrey Ryabinin
2017-10-09 15:53     ` Andrey Ryabinin
2017-10-10 15:28     ` Alexander Potapenko
2017-10-10 15:28       ` Alexander Potapenko
2017-10-10 21:53   ` kbuild test robot
2017-10-09 15:05 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] kcov: update documentation Alexander Potapenko
2017-10-09 15:05   ` Alexander Potapenko
2017-10-09 15:46 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] kcov: support comparison operands collection Mark Rutland
2017-10-09 15:46   ` Mark Rutland
2017-10-09 18:15   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-10-09 18:15     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-10-09 18:37     ` Mark Rutland
2017-10-09 18:37       ` Mark Rutland
2017-10-09 18:46       ` Dmitry Vyukov [this message]
2017-10-09 18:46         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-10-10  9:56         ` Mark Rutland
2017-10-10  9:56           ` Mark Rutland
2017-10-10 15:28   ` Alexander Potapenko
2017-10-10 15:28     ` Alexander Potapenko
2017-10-10 15:34     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-10-10 15:34       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-10-11  9:56       ` Alexander Potapenko
2017-10-11  9:56         ` Alexander Potapenko

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