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From: Sandy Harris <sandyinchina@gmail.com>
To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Crypto Mailing List <linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
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	Dominik Brodowski <linux@dominikbrodowski.net>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Thomas Bogendoerfer <tsbogend@alpha.franken.de>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
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	Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Chris Zankel <chris@zankel.net>,
	Max Filippov <jcmvbkbc@gmail.com>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>,
	Dinh Nguyen <dinguyen@kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org, linux-mips@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, sparclinux@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-um@lists.infradead.org, x86@kernel.org,
	linux-xtensa@linux-xtensa.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 11/11] random: insist on random_get_entropy() existing in order to simplify
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2022 10:24:07 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACXcFmksd3cw+xa-c2gEdd4=96PO8GCCMF6q2d6JHnJum2LjiA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220419111650.1582274-12-Jason@zx2c4.com>

On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 6:37 AM Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@zx2c4.com> wrote:
>
> All platforms are now guaranteed to provide some value for
> random_get_entropy(). In case some bug leads to this not being so, we
> print a warning, ...

Would it make sense to test at compile time? If there is no hardware
RNG nor a cycle counter, then the kernel should be compiled with
the gcc latent entropy plugin. Generate a warning suggesting that,
or even an error insisting on it.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Sandy Harris <sandyinchina@gmail.com>
To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	 Linux Crypto Mailing List <linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	 Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	 Dominik Brodowski <linux@dominikbrodowski.net>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	 Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	 Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Thomas Bogendoerfer <tsbogend@alpha.franken.de>,
	 Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	 Albert Ou <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	 Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	Anton Ivanov <anton.ivanov@cambridgegreys.com>,
	 Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,  Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	 "H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Chris Zankel <chris@zankel.net>,
	Max Filippov <jcmvbkbc@gmail.com>,
	 Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>,
	Dinh Nguyen <dinguyen@kernel.org>,
	 linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org,  linux-mips@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,  sparclinux@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-um@lists.infradead.org, x86@kernel.org,
	 linux-xtensa@linux-xtensa.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 11/11] random: insist on random_get_entropy() existing in order to simplify
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2022 10:24:07 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACXcFmksd3cw+xa-c2gEdd4=96PO8GCCMF6q2d6JHnJum2LjiA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220419111650.1582274-12-Jason@zx2c4.com>

On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 6:37 AM Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@zx2c4.com> wrote:
>
> All platforms are now guaranteed to provide some value for
> random_get_entropy(). In case some bug leads to this not being so, we
> print a warning, ...

Would it make sense to test at compile time? If there is no hardware
RNG nor a cycle counter, then the kernel should be compiled with
the gcc latent entropy plugin. Generate a warning suggesting that,
or even an error insisting on it.

_______________________________________________
linux-riscv mailing list
linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org
http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-riscv

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Sandy Harris <sandyinchina@gmail.com>
To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	 Linux Crypto Mailing List <linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	 Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	 Dominik Brodowski <linux@dominikbrodowski.net>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	 Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	 Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Thomas Bogendoerfer <tsbogend@alpha.franken.de>,
	 Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	 Albert Ou <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	 Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	Anton Ivanov <anton.ivanov@cambridgegreys.com>,
	 Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,  Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	 "H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Chris Zankel <chris@zankel.net>,
	Max Filippov <jcmvbkbc@gmail.com>,
	 Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>,
	Dinh Nguyen <dinguyen@kernel.org>,
	 linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org,  linux-mips@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,  sparclinux@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-um@lists.infradead.org, x86@kernel.org,
	 linux-xtensa@linux-xtensa.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 11/11] random: insist on random_get_entropy() existing in order to simplify
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2022 10:24:07 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACXcFmksd3cw+xa-c2gEdd4=96PO8GCCMF6q2d6JHnJum2LjiA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220419111650.1582274-12-Jason@zx2c4.com>

On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 6:37 AM Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@zx2c4.com> wrote:
>
> All platforms are now guaranteed to provide some value for
> random_get_entropy(). In case some bug leads to this not being so, we
> print a warning, ...

Would it make sense to test at compile time? If there is no hardware
RNG nor a cycle counter, then the kernel should be compiled with
the gcc latent entropy plugin. Generate a warning suggesting that,
or even an error insisting on it.

_______________________________________________
linux-arm-kernel mailing list
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel

  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-23  2:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-19 11:16 [PATCH v5 00/11] archs/random: fallback to best raw ktime when no cycle counter Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 11:16 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 11:16 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 11:16 ` [PATCH v5 01/11] timekeeping: add raw clock fallback for random_get_entropy() Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 11:16   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 11:16   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 11:16 ` [PATCH v5 02/11] m68k: use fallback for random_get_entropy() instead of zero Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 11:16   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 11:16   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 11:16 ` [PATCH v5 03/11] riscv: " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 11:16   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 11:16   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 11:16 ` [PATCH v5 04/11] mips: use fallback for random_get_entropy() instead of just c0 random Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 11:16   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 11:16   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-21 19:25   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2022-04-21 19:25     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2022-04-21 19:25     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2022-04-21 20:01     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-21 20:01       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-21 20:01       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-21 21:05   ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2022-04-21 21:05     ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2022-04-21 21:05     ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2022-04-19 11:16 ` [PATCH v5 05/11] arm: use fallback for random_get_entropy() instead of zero Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 11:16   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 11:16   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 11:16 ` [PATCH v5 06/11] nios2: " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 11:16   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 11:16   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-02 21:01   ` Dinh Nguyen
2022-05-02 21:01     ` Dinh Nguyen
2022-05-02 21:01     ` Dinh Nguyen
2022-04-19 11:16 ` [PATCH v5 07/11] x86: " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 11:16   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 11:16   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 18:16   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-19 18:16     ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-19 18:16     ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-19 18:38     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 18:38       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 18:38       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 18:59       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-19 18:59         ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-19 18:59         ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-19 19:00         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 19:00           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 19:00           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 11:16 ` [PATCH v5 08/11] um: " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 11:16   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 11:16   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 11:33   ` Johannes Berg
2022-04-19 11:33     ` Johannes Berg
2022-04-19 11:33     ` Johannes Berg
2022-04-19 11:37     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 11:37       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 11:37       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 11:16 ` [PATCH v5 09/11] sparc: " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 11:16   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 11:16   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 11:16 ` [PATCH v5 10/11] xtensa: " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 11:16   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 11:16   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-21  8:00   ` Max Filippov
2022-04-21  8:00     ` Max Filippov
2022-04-21  8:00     ` Max Filippov
2022-04-19 11:16 ` [PATCH v5 11/11] random: insist on random_get_entropy() existing in order to simplify Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 11:16   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-19 11:16   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-23  2:24   ` Sandy Harris [this message]
2022-04-23  2:24     ` Sandy Harris
2022-04-23  2:24     ` Sandy Harris
2022-04-23 10:00     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-23 10:00       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-04-23 10:00       ` Jason A. Donenfeld

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