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* [mlmmj] Rejecting HTML email
@ 2013-07-25  9:44 Kai Hendry
  2013-07-25 10:30 ` Marc MAURICE
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From: Kai Hendry @ 2013-07-25  9:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mlmmj

Hi there,

Could anyone offer some tips about implementing an HTML free mailing list?

Many thanks,


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* Re: [mlmmj] Rejecting HTML email
  2013-07-25  9:44 [mlmmj] Rejecting HTML email Kai Hendry
@ 2013-07-25 10:30 ` Marc MAURICE
  2013-07-25 10:32 ` Florian Effenberger
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From: Marc MAURICE @ 2013-07-25 10:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mlmmj

Hi,

Do you want to reject html mails ?

Or alter mail content to convert html content to text ?

Marc

On 25/07/2013 11:44, Kai Hendry wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> Could anyone offer some tips about implementing an HTML free mailing list?
>
> Many thanks,
>
>



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* Re: [mlmmj] Rejecting HTML email
  2013-07-25  9:44 [mlmmj] Rejecting HTML email Kai Hendry
  2013-07-25 10:30 ` Marc MAURICE
@ 2013-07-25 10:32 ` Florian Effenberger
  2013-07-25 11:08 ` Kai Hendry
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From: Florian Effenberger @ 2013-07-25 10:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mlmmj

Hi,

have a look at https://github.com/awerner/pymime - that's what we use
at The Document Foundation for filtering.

Florian

2013/7/25 Marc MAURICE <marc-mlmmj@pub.positon.org>:
> Hi,
>
> Do you want to reject html mails ?
>
> Or alter mail content to convert html content to text ?
>
> Marc
>
>
> On 25/07/2013 11:44, Kai Hendry wrote:
>>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> Could anyone offer some tips about implementing an HTML free mailing list?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>>
>
>
>


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* Re: [mlmmj] Rejecting HTML email
  2013-07-25  9:44 [mlmmj] Rejecting HTML email Kai Hendry
  2013-07-25 10:30 ` Marc MAURICE
  2013-07-25 10:32 ` Florian Effenberger
@ 2013-07-25 11:08 ` Kai Hendry
  2013-07-25 11:48 ` Kai Hendry
                   ` (5 subsequent siblings)
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From: Kai Hendry @ 2013-07-25 11:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mlmmj

On 25 July 2013 18:30, Marc MAURICE <marc-mlmmj@pub.positon.org> wrote:
> Do you want to reject html mails ?

Reject with a message saying please re-send as plain text. :-)


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* Re: [mlmmj] Rejecting HTML email
  2013-07-25  9:44 [mlmmj] Rejecting HTML email Kai Hendry
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2013-07-25 11:08 ` Kai Hendry
@ 2013-07-25 11:48 ` Kai Hendry
  2013-07-25 11:55 ` Henne Vogelsang
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From: Kai Hendry @ 2013-07-25 11:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mlmmj

On 25 July 2013 18:32, Florian Effenberger <floeff@gmail.com> wrote:
> have a look at https://github.com/awerner/pymime - that's what we use
> at The Document Foundation for filtering.

That and Henne's spam filter header suggestion seems a bit overkill
for my liking.

I think I pretty much have what I want with: http://ix.io/6RT

Have I missed anything?


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* Re: [mlmmj] Rejecting HTML email
  2013-07-25  9:44 [mlmmj] Rejecting HTML email Kai Hendry
                   ` (3 preceding siblings ...)
  2013-07-25 11:48 ` Kai Hendry
@ 2013-07-25 11:55 ` Henne Vogelsang
  2013-07-25 12:04 ` Kai Hendry
                   ` (3 subsequent siblings)
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From: Henne Vogelsang @ 2013-07-25 11:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mlmmj

Hey,

On 25.07.2013 13:48, Kai Hendry wrote:
> On 25 July 2013 18:32, Florian Effenberger <floeff@gmail.com> wrote:
>> have a look at https://github.com/awerner/pymime - that's what we use
>> at The Document Foundation for filtering.
> 
> That and Henne's spam filter header suggestion seems a bit overkill
> for my liking.
> 
> I think I pretty much have what I want with: http://ix.io/6RT
> 
> Have I missed anything?

There are a lot of things that can be multipart/alternative and
multipart/related in a mail. And especially people with very broken
client setups tend to not send mime-formatted text. It has proven to be
not very reliable for us...

Henne

-- 
Henne Vogelsang
http://www.opensuse.org
Everybody has a plan, until they get hit.
	- Mike Tyson


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* Re: [mlmmj] Rejecting HTML email
  2013-07-25  9:44 [mlmmj] Rejecting HTML email Kai Hendry
                   ` (4 preceding siblings ...)
  2013-07-25 11:55 ` Henne Vogelsang
@ 2013-07-25 12:04 ` Kai Hendry
  2013-07-25 12:31 ` Henne Vogelsang
                   ` (2 subsequent siblings)
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From: Kai Hendry @ 2013-07-25 12:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mlmmj

On 25 July 2013 19:55, Henne Vogelsang <hvogel@opensuse.org> wrote:
> There are a lot of things that can be multipart/alternative and
> multipart/related in a mail. And especially people with very broken
> client setups tend to not send mime-formatted text. It has proven to be
> not very reliable for us...

On my testing Gmail as a MUA sends emails with patches for example
with multipart/mixed. Same goes for mutt MUA.
multipart/alternative for HTML in gmail
multipart/related when using emojii in gmail


This is for the "elitist" http://suckless.org/community group and I
like to think testing with mutt/gmail covered the bases here...


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* Re: [mlmmj] Rejecting HTML email
  2013-07-25  9:44 [mlmmj] Rejecting HTML email Kai Hendry
                   ` (5 preceding siblings ...)
  2013-07-25 12:04 ` Kai Hendry
@ 2013-07-25 12:31 ` Henne Vogelsang
  2013-07-25 17:57 ` Marco S Hyman
  2013-07-28  3:04 ` Ben Schmidt
  8 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Henne Vogelsang @ 2013-07-25 12:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mlmmj

Hey,

On 25.07.2013 14:04, Kai Hendry wrote:
> On 25 July 2013 19:55, Henne Vogelsang <hvogel@opensuse.org> wrote:
>> There are a lot of things that can be multipart/alternative and
>> multipart/related in a mail. And especially people with very broken
>> client setups tend to not send mime-formatted text. It has proven to be
>> not very reliable for us...
> 
> On my testing Gmail as a MUA sends emails with patches for example
> with multipart/mixed. Same goes for mutt MUA.
> multipart/alternative for HTML in gmail
> multipart/related when using emojii in gmail

We serve over 130 lists with over 32K subscribers and around 2K mails a
day. I guess there are nearly as many MUA/MTA/Config combinations ;-)

If you run a small amount of list with a specific set of people
subscribed filtering on multipart/* can work. It all depends on your
subscribers...

Henne

-- 
Henne Vogelsang
http://www.opensuse.org
Everybody has a plan, until they get hit.
	- Mike Tyson


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* Re: [mlmmj] Rejecting HTML email
  2013-07-25  9:44 [mlmmj] Rejecting HTML email Kai Hendry
                   ` (6 preceding siblings ...)
  2013-07-25 12:31 ` Henne Vogelsang
@ 2013-07-25 17:57 ` Marco S Hyman
  2013-07-28  3:04 ` Ben Schmidt
  8 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Marco S Hyman @ 2013-07-25 17:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mlmmj

On Jul 25, 2013, at 2:44 AM, Kai Hendry <hendry@webconverger.com> wrote:

> Could anyone offer some tips about implementing an HTML free mailing list?

In control/access for the list add

	allow ^Content-Type: text/plain
	moderate

There may be others you want to allow and you may want to change moderate to deny.
Or you may want to specifically deny multipart and text/html

There may be other ways... that's how I've done it.

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* Re: [mlmmj] Rejecting HTML email
  2013-07-25  9:44 [mlmmj] Rejecting HTML email Kai Hendry
                   ` (7 preceding siblings ...)
  2013-07-25 17:57 ` Marco S Hyman
@ 2013-07-28  3:04 ` Ben Schmidt
  8 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Ben Schmidt @ 2013-07-28  3:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mlmmj

> If you run a small amount of list with a specific set of people
> subscribed filtering on multipart/* can work. It all depends on your
> subscribers...

Very true.

Beware of things such as signed mail, which are usually multipart.

Ben.





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