Why the Email of @yahoo.com can't subscribe majordomo@vger.kernel.org ?

Why the Email of @yahoo.com can't subscribe majordomo@vger.kernel.org ?

[lx]

hi all:
      I want to subscribe the majordomo at vger.kernel.org about netdev. But
It don't work. The error
message is:

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Sorry, we were unable to deliver your message to the following address.
<majordomo@vger.kernel.org> <majordomo@vger.kernel.org>:
Remote host said:
553 5.7.1 Hello [106.10.151.226], for your MAIL FROM address
<lxgeek@yahoo.com> <lxgeek@yahoo.com> policy analysis reported: Your
address is not liked source for email
 [MAIL_FROM]

--- Below this line is a copy of the message.

Received: from [106.10.166.120] by nm33.bullet.mail.sg3.yahoo.com with
NNFMP; 29 Dec 2014 05:50:14 -0000
Received: from [106.10.167.174] by tm9.bullet.mail.sg3.yahoo.com with
NNFMP; 29 Dec 2014 05:50:14 -0000
Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp147.mail.sg3.yahoo.com with NNFMP;
29 Dec 2014 05:50:14 -0000
X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 541845.56363.bm at smtp147.mail.sg3.yahoo.com
X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3
X-YMail-OSG: 3s0rdfQVM1lPcl7PYi8obCNwfrPXi49mnORqxY8zxPBP3GZ
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 zsYWQ706pxDyoznM1hIXt5B9NwImQu7NLtUPSxA--
X-Yahoo-SMTP: Ot9DgBiswBD6.gcTBOjHB_vvEA--
Message-ID: <54A0EB96.3060500@yahoo.com> <54A0EB96.3060500@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 13:50:14 +0800
From: lx <lxgeek@yahoo.com> <lxgeek@yahoo.com>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0)
Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: majordomo at vger.kernel.org
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

subscribe netdev

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How to fix it? Thank you.
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Why the Email of @yahoo.com can't subscribe majordomo@vger.kernel.org ?

[Sudip Mukherjee]

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 11:56 AM, lx <lxlenovostar@gmail.com> wrote:
> hi all:
>       I want to subscribe the majordomo at vger.kernel.org about netdev. But It
> don't work. The error
> message is:
>
> ########################
>
> Sorry, we were unable to deliver your message to the following address.
>
> <majordomo@vger.kernel.org>:
> Remote host said:
> 553 5.7.1 Hello [106.10.151.226], for your MAIL FROM address
> <lxgeek@yahoo.com> policy analysis reported: Your address is not liked
> source for email
>  [MAIL_FROM]

it means the server policy of majordomo includes to reject mails from yahoo.

sudip

>
> --- Below this line is a copy of the message.
>
> Received: from [106.10.166.120] by nm33.bullet.mail.sg3.yahoo.com with
> NNFMP; 29 Dec 2014 05:50:14 -0000
> Received: from [106.10.167.174] by tm9.bullet.mail.sg3.yahoo.com with NNFMP;
> 29 Dec 2014 05:50:14 -0000
> Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp147.mail.sg3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Dec
> 2014 05:50:14 -0000
> X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 541845.56363.bm at smtp147.mail.sg3.yahoo.com
> X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3
> X-YMail-OSG: 3s0rdfQVM1lPcl7PYi8obCNwfrPXi49mnORqxY8zxPBP3GZ
>  WJNE8J4eollOsC50XIZRciC4O4E_2ak65nfZUWIcWZ5l3LThPaGj2NLnRRfb
>  ae0Zm7lhLNH5GsT8BCLBOB4KuUeLqo7XFm1uOKu3noMmqMF5qFY9AFTLJRQ4
>  GBGBn2RLuVQD2SNVV8kbd0otyfm.jJK.AIyCnUymqqi45ux3R1Vatzzu4rhk
>  N5BsL2uYUufhcjbKBl8vSClY4dcBN6gvwCT21AVlPYza0ekIPAS7Y2XPdAKK
>  vJnRPbj8hTidiNVr__g8eTjWBLR7sMPrRZV351BsXsyUrfw4sQitpvobSko0
>  K_Jg9o_aFPuMgr5qCAS1DjKUVd2JcpGU5.XVp58mZXwi0rg1uePB4oRavhv_
>  Uj1zX4WBx8q7FSfWsbMGZvSZZpYLWuBrEKNHO34BXJqDr1HzW_ObaY.nzzxC
>  SpuijN8aIG380ZIhgW7xcd6sYG2fFIb6Gxyfg0A6JFhvasNVdXbdcDvJGw_D
>  zsYWQ706pxDyoznM1hIXt5B9NwImQu7NLtUPSxA--
> X-Yahoo-SMTP: Ot9DgBiswBD6.gcTBOjHB_vvEA--
> Message-ID: <54A0EB96.3060500@yahoo.com>
> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 13:50:14 +0800
> From: lx <lxgeek@yahoo.com>
> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101
> Thunderbird/31.3.0
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> To: majordomo at vger.kernel.org
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>
> subscribe netdev
>
> ########################
>
> How to fix it? Thank you.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Kernelnewbies mailing list
> Kernelnewbies at kernelnewbies.org
> http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies
>

Why the Email of @yahoo.com can't subscribe majordomo@vger.kernel.org ?

[Anand Moon]

Hi All,

This mails from yahoo mail server are being dropped by kernel mailing list
But why such a policy ?

How to get this working in the future.

-Anand Moon
On 12/29/2014 12:49 PM, Sudip Mukherjee wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 11:56 AM, lx <lxlenovostar@gmail.com> wrote:
>> hi all:
>>        I want to subscribe the majordomo at vger.kernel.org about netdev. But It
>> don't work. The error
>> message is:
>>
>> ########################
>>
>> Sorry, we were unable to deliver your message to the following address.
>>
>> <majordomo@vger.kernel.org>:
>> Remote host said:
>> 553 5.7.1 Hello [106.10.151.226], for your MAIL FROM address
>> <lxgeek@yahoo.com> policy analysis reported: Your address is not liked
>> source for email
>>   [MAIL_FROM]
> it means the server policy of majordomo includes to reject mails from yahoo.
>
> sudip
>
>> --- Below this line is a copy of the message.
>>
>> Received: from [106.10.166.120] by nm33.bullet.mail.sg3.yahoo.com with
>> NNFMP; 29 Dec 2014 05:50:14 -0000
>> Received: from [106.10.167.174] by tm9.bullet.mail.sg3.yahoo.com with NNFMP;
>> 29 Dec 2014 05:50:14 -0000
>> Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp147.mail.sg3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Dec
>> 2014 05:50:14 -0000
>> X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 541845.56363.bm at smtp147.mail.sg3.yahoo.com
>> X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3
>> X-YMail-OSG: 3s0rdfQVM1lPcl7PYi8obCNwfrPXi49mnORqxY8zxPBP3GZ
>>   WJNE8J4eollOsC50XIZRciC4O4E_2ak65nfZUWIcWZ5l3LThPaGj2NLnRRfb
>>   ae0Zm7lhLNH5GsT8BCLBOB4KuUeLqo7XFm1uOKu3noMmqMF5qFY9AFTLJRQ4
>>   GBGBn2RLuVQD2SNVV8kbd0otyfm.jJK.AIyCnUymqqi45ux3R1Vatzzu4rhk
>>   N5BsL2uYUufhcjbKBl8vSClY4dcBN6gvwCT21AVlPYza0ekIPAS7Y2XPdAKK
>>   vJnRPbj8hTidiNVr__g8eTjWBLR7sMPrRZV351BsXsyUrfw4sQitpvobSko0
>>   K_Jg9o_aFPuMgr5qCAS1DjKUVd2JcpGU5.XVp58mZXwi0rg1uePB4oRavhv_
>>   Uj1zX4WBx8q7FSfWsbMGZvSZZpYLWuBrEKNHO34BXJqDr1HzW_ObaY.nzzxC
>>   SpuijN8aIG380ZIhgW7xcd6sYG2fFIb6Gxyfg0A6JFhvasNVdXbdcDvJGw_D
>>   zsYWQ706pxDyoznM1hIXt5B9NwImQu7NLtUPSxA--
>> X-Yahoo-SMTP: Ot9DgBiswBD6.gcTBOjHB_vvEA--
>> Message-ID: <54A0EB96.3060500@yahoo.com>
>> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 13:50:14 +0800
>> From: lx <lxgeek@yahoo.com>
>> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101
>> Thunderbird/31.3.0
>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>> To: majordomo at vger.kernel.org
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>>
>> subscribe netdev
>>
>> ########################
>>
>> How to fix it? Thank you.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Kernelnewbies mailing list
>> Kernelnewbies at kernelnewbies.org
>> http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies
>>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies

Why the Email of @yahoo.com can't subscribe majordomo@vger.kernel.org ?

[Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu]

On Tue, 06 Jan 2015 23:25:18 +0530, Anand Moon said:

> This mails from yahoo mail server are being dropped by kernel mailing list
> But why such a policy ?

Yahoo and AOL made a rather ill-advised change in their mail configuration, which
causes issues for mailing lists. In self-defense, many lists no longer accept
mail from Yahoo or AOL users.

The gory details:

"With the new policy, when a Yahoo user sends an email to a mailing list, the
list's server distributes that message to all subscribers, changing the
headers and breaking DMARC validation. List subscribers with email accounts on
servers that perform DMARC checks, such as Gmail, Hotmail (Outlook.com),
Comcast or Yahoo itself, will reject the original message and respond back to
the list with automated DMARC error messages.

For example, Gmail will respond with a message that reads: "smtp;550 5.7.1
Unauthenticated email from yahoo.com is not accepted due to domain's DMARC
policy. Please contact administrator of yahoo.com domain if this was a
legitimate mail."

So users of Gmail, Hotmail and other DMARC-enabled providers will not only fail
to receive messages sent to the mailing list by Yahoo users, but will flood the
list with bounce messages, risking to be bounced off the list themselves,
Levine said."

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2141120/yahoo-email-antispoofing-policy-breaks-mailing-lists.html

> How to get this working in the future.

Get an account on Hotmail or GMail or pretty much anyplace besides Yahoo or AOL.
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Why the Email of @yahoo.com can't subscribe majordomo@vger.kernel.org ?

[Anand Moon]

hi Validis,

Thanks you for explaing.

-Anand Moon



On Tuesday, January 6, 2015 11:41 PM, "Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu" <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote:
On Tue, 06 Jan 2015 23:25:18 +0530, Anand Moon said:

> This mails from yahoo mail server are being dropped by kernel mailing list
> But why such a policy ?

Yahoo and AOL made a rather ill-advised change in their mail configuration, which
causes issues for mailing lists. In self-defense, many lists no longer accept
mail from Yahoo or AOL users.

The gory details:

"With the new policy, when a Yahoo user sends an email to a mailing list, the
list's server distributes that message to all subscribers, changing the
headers and breaking DMARC validation. List subscribers with email accounts on
servers that perform DMARC checks, such as Gmail, Hotmail (Outlook.com),
Comcast or Yahoo itself, will reject the original message and respond back to
the list with automated DMARC error messages.

For example, Gmail will respond with a message that reads: "smtp;550 5.7.1
Unauthenticated email from yahoo.com is not accepted due to domain's DMARC
policy. Please contact administrator of yahoo.com domain if this was a
legitimate mail."

So users of Gmail, Hotmail and other DMARC-enabled providers will not only fail
to receive messages sent to the mailing list by Yahoo users, but will flood the
list with bounce messages, risking to be bounced off the list themselves,
Levine said."

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2141120/yahoo-email-antispoofing-policy-breaks-mailing-lists.html


> How to get this working in the future.

Get an account on Hotmail or GMail or pretty much anyplace besides Yahoo or AOL.