Re: [Buildroot] [PATCH 2/2] package/systemd: allow package to be used without init system

[Norbert Lange <nolange79@gmail.com>]

Am Di., 19. Juli 2022 um 17:45 Uhr schrieb Yann E. MORIN
<yann.morin.1998@free.fr>:
>
> Norbert, All,
>
> On 2022-07-19 15:16 +0200, Norbert Lange spake thusly:
> > Allow systemd to be built as normal package, this for example
> > allows building systemd-boot without any init system.
>
> How has the situation with upstream evolved since last time the topic
> was raised here:
>     https://lore.kernel.org/buildroot/cover.1545814334.git.yann.morin.1998@free.fr/#t
> and especially the sub-thread:
>     https://lore.kernel.org/buildroot/d38239f86f99924e87dcb6e045b2de3ac0cb435f.1545814334.git.yann.morin.1998@free.fr/
>
> As far as I know (and understand), upstream has decided to tie the build
> of systemd-boot (formerly the standalone gummiboot) to the build of the
> rest of the systemd suite; they did not accept to make it possible to
> only build systemd-boot to use it outside the systemd ecosystem.
>
> From Buildroot's perspective, allowing to build systemd without it being
> an init system, and without the possibility to just build systemd-boot,
> is asking for troubles down the line.
>
> The triviality of your patch does not make it possible to only just
> build systemd-boot; instead, it still builds the whole systemd suite,
> which hints that upstream did not make it possible to do separate
> builds.

This was an example, and I do just that, even you built more than just
systemd-boot, picking "no init" speeds things up a bit.

> So, unless things have evolved substantially, I am not very fond of
> alowing this, and stand by the decision that was made back then (i.e.
> abide by upstream decision and tie systemd-boot to the systemd
> ecosystem).

I want to build systemd without using it as init system. Is there any
reason to artificially prohibit that?
It's just a regular package for me.

Norbert
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