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From: Rob Clark <rob@ti.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, t.stanislaws@samsung.com,
	linux@arm.linux.org.uk, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	Sumit Semwal <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	m.szyprowski@samsung.com
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 1/2] dma-buf: Introduce dma buffer sharing mechanism
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 16:35:03 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAF6AEGugC4hW-NUU4Zss=ACSCrqads+=nwULGRaMhhTX-1uP+g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1781399.9f45Chd7K4@wuerfel>

On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> On Monday 05 December 2011 14:46:47 Rob Clark wrote:
>> I sort of preferred having the DMABUF shim because that lets you pass
>> a buffer around userspace without the receiving code knowing about a
>> device specific API.  But the problem I eventually came around to: if
>> your GL stack (or some other userspace component) is batching up
>> commands before submission to kernel, the buffers you need to wait for
>> completion might not even be submitted yet.  So from kernel
>> perspective they are "ready" for cpu access.  Even though in fact they
>> are not in a consistent state from rendering perspective.  I don't
>> really know a sane way to deal with that.  Maybe the approach instead
>> should be a userspace level API (in libkms/libdrm?) to provide
>> abstraction for userspace access to buffers rather than dealing with
>> this at the kernel level.
>
> It would be nice if user space had no way to block out kernel drivers,
> otherwise we have to be very careful to ensure that each map() operation
> can be interrupted by a signal as the last resort to avoid deadlocks.

map_dma_buf should be documented to be allowed to return -EINTR..
otherwise, yeah, that would be problematic.

>        Arnd
> _______________________________________________
> dri-devel mailing list
> dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
> http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel

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From: Rob Clark <rob@ti.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, t.stanislaws@samsung.com,
	linux@arm.linux.org.uk, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	Sumit Semwal <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	m.szyprowski@samsung.com
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 1/2] dma-buf: Introduce dma buffer sharing mechanism
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 16:35:03 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAF6AEGugC4hW-NUU4Zss=ACSCrqads+=nwULGRaMhhTX-1uP+g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1781399.9f45Chd7K4@wuerfel>

On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> On Monday 05 December 2011 14:46:47 Rob Clark wrote:
>> I sort of preferred having the DMABUF shim because that lets you pass
>> a buffer around userspace without the receiving code knowing about a
>> device specific API.  But the problem I eventually came around to: if
>> your GL stack (or some other userspace component) is batching up
>> commands before submission to kernel, the buffers you need to wait for
>> completion might not even be submitted yet.  So from kernel
>> perspective they are "ready" for cpu access.  Even though in fact they
>> are not in a consistent state from rendering perspective.  I don't
>> really know a sane way to deal with that.  Maybe the approach instead
>> should be a userspace level API (in libkms/libdrm?) to provide
>> abstraction for userspace access to buffers rather than dealing with
>> this at the kernel level.
>
> It would be nice if user space had no way to block out kernel drivers,
> otherwise we have to be very careful to ensure that each map() operation
> can be interrupted by a signal as the last resort to avoid deadlocks.

map_dma_buf should be documented to be allowed to return -EINTR..
otherwise, yeah, that would be problematic.

>        Arnd
> _______________________________________________
> dri-devel mailing list
> dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
> http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel

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From: rob@ti.com (Rob Clark)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC v2 1/2] dma-buf: Introduce dma buffer sharing mechanism
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 16:35:03 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAF6AEGugC4hW-NUU4Zss=ACSCrqads+=nwULGRaMhhTX-1uP+g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1781399.9f45Chd7K4@wuerfel>

On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> On Monday 05 December 2011 14:46:47 Rob Clark wrote:
>> I sort of preferred having the DMABUF shim because that lets you pass
>> a buffer around userspace without the receiving code knowing about a
>> device specific API. ?But the problem I eventually came around to: if
>> your GL stack (or some other userspace component) is batching up
>> commands before submission to kernel, the buffers you need to wait for
>> completion might not even be submitted yet. ?So from kernel
>> perspective they are "ready" for cpu access. ?Even though in fact they
>> are not in a consistent state from rendering perspective. ?I don't
>> really know a sane way to deal with that. ?Maybe the approach instead
>> should be a userspace level API (in libkms/libdrm?) to provide
>> abstraction for userspace access to buffers rather than dealing with
>> this at the kernel level.
>
> It would be nice if user space had no way to block out kernel drivers,
> otherwise we have to be very careful to ensure that each map() operation
> can be interrupted by a signal as the last resort to avoid deadlocks.

map_dma_buf should be documented to be allowed to return -EINTR..
otherwise, yeah, that would be problematic.

> ? ? ? ?Arnd
> _______________________________________________
> dri-devel mailing list
> dri-devel at lists.freedesktop.org
> http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-12-05 22:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 198+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-02  8:57 [RFC v2 0/2] Introduce DMA buffer sharing mechanism Sumit Semwal
2011-12-02  8:57 ` Sumit Semwal
2011-12-02  8:57 ` Sumit Semwal
2011-12-02  8:57 ` [RFC v2 1/2] dma-buf: Introduce dma " Sumit Semwal
2011-12-02  8:57   ` Sumit Semwal
2011-12-02 17:11   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2011-12-02 17:11     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2011-12-02 17:11     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2011-12-05  9:48     ` Semwal, Sumit
2011-12-05  9:48       ` Semwal, Sumit
2011-12-05  9:48       ` Semwal, Sumit
2011-12-05 17:18   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-05 17:18     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-05 17:18     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-05 18:55     ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-05 18:55       ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-05 18:55       ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-05 19:29       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-05 19:29         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-05 19:29         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-05 20:58         ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-05 20:58           ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-05 20:58           ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-05 22:04           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-05 22:04             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-05 22:04             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-05 22:33             ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-05 22:33               ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-05 22:33               ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-05 20:46     ` Rob Clark
2011-12-05 20:46       ` Rob Clark
2011-12-05 20:46       ` Rob Clark
2011-12-05 21:23       ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-05 21:23         ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-05 21:23         ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-05 22:11         ` Rob Clark
2011-12-05 22:11           ` Rob Clark
2011-12-05 22:11           ` Rob Clark
2011-12-05 22:33           ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-05 22:33             ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-05 22:33             ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-06 13:16           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-06 13:16             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-06 13:16             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-06 15:28             ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-06 15:28               ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-06 15:28               ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-07 13:27           ` Semwal, Sumit
2011-12-07 13:27             ` Semwal, Sumit
2011-12-07 13:27             ` Semwal, Sumit
2011-12-07 13:40             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-07 13:40               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-07 13:40               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-08 21:44               ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Daniel Vetter
2011-12-08 21:44                 ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-08 21:44                 ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-09 14:13                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-09 14:13                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-09 14:13                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-09 14:24                   ` Alan Cox
2011-12-09 14:24                     ` Alan Cox
2011-12-09 14:24                     ` Alan Cox
2011-12-10  4:01                     ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-10  4:01                       ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-10  4:01                       ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-12 16:48                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-12 16:48                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-12 16:48                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-19  6:16                         ` Semwal, Sumit
2011-12-19  6:16                           ` Semwal, Sumit
2011-12-19  6:16                           ` Semwal, Sumit
2011-12-20 15:41                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-20 15:41                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-20 15:41                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-20 16:41                             ` Rob Clark
2011-12-20 16:41                               ` Rob Clark
2011-12-20 16:41                               ` Rob Clark
2011-12-20 17:14                               ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-20 17:14                                 ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-20 17:14                                 ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-20 17:14                                 ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-21 17:27                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-21 17:27                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-21 17:27                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-21 19:04                                   ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-21 19:04                                     ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-21 19:04                                     ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-23 10:00                                   ` Semwal, Sumit
2011-12-23 10:00                                     ` Semwal, Sumit
2011-12-23 10:00                                     ` Semwal, Sumit
2011-12-23 17:10                                     ` Rob Clark
2011-12-23 17:10                                       ` Rob Clark
2011-12-23 17:10                                       ` Rob Clark
2011-12-20  9:03                   ` Sakari Ailus
2011-12-20  9:03                     ` Sakari Ailus
2011-12-20  9:03                     ` Sakari Ailus
2011-12-20 15:36                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-20 15:36                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-20 15:36                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-01-01 20:53                       ` Sakari Ailus
2012-01-01 20:53                         ` Sakari Ailus
2012-01-01 20:53                         ` Sakari Ailus
2012-01-01 23:12                         ` Rob Clark
2012-01-01 23:12                           ` Rob Clark
2012-01-01 23:12                           ` Rob Clark
2011-12-13 13:33                 ` Hans Verkuil
2011-12-13 13:33                   ` Hans Verkuil
2011-12-13 13:33                   ` Hans Verkuil
2011-12-05 22:09       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-05 22:09         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-05 22:09         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-05 22:09         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-05 22:15         ` Rob Clark
2011-12-05 22:15           ` Rob Clark
2011-12-05 22:15           ` Rob Clark
2011-12-05 22:35         ` Rob Clark [this message]
2011-12-05 22:35           ` Rob Clark
2011-12-05 22:35           ` Rob Clark
2011-12-07  6:35     ` Semwal, Sumit
2011-12-07  6:35       ` Semwal, Sumit
2011-12-07  6:35       ` Semwal, Sumit
2011-12-07 10:11       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-07 10:11         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-07 10:11         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-07 11:02         ` Semwal, Sumit
2011-12-07 11:02           ` Semwal, Sumit
2011-12-07 11:02           ` Semwal, Sumit
2011-12-07 11:34           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-07 11:34             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-07 11:34             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-09 22:50     ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Robert Morell
2011-12-09 22:50       ` Robert Morell
2011-12-09 22:50       ` Robert Morell
2011-12-09 22:50       ` Robert Morell
2011-12-10 11:13       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-10 11:13         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-10 11:13         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-10 11:13         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-12 22:44         ` Robert Morell
2011-12-12 22:44           ` Robert Morell
2011-12-12 22:44           ` Robert Morell
2011-12-12 22:44           ` Robert Morell
2011-12-13 15:10           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-13 15:10             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-13 15:10             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-13 15:10             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-20  2:05             ` Robert Morell
2011-12-20  2:05               ` Robert Morell
2011-12-20  2:05               ` Robert Morell
2011-12-20  2:05               ` Robert Morell
2011-12-20 14:29               ` Anca Emanuel
2011-12-20 14:29                 ` Anca Emanuel
2011-12-20 14:29                 ` Anca Emanuel
2011-12-20 14:29                 ` Anca Emanuel
2012-01-09  6:20   ` InKi Dae
2012-01-09  6:20     ` InKi Dae
2012-01-09  6:20     ` InKi Dae
2012-01-09  8:10     ` Daniel Vetter
2012-01-09  8:10       ` Daniel Vetter
2012-01-09  8:10       ` Daniel Vetter
2012-01-09  8:11       ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Dave Airlie
2012-01-09  8:11         ` Dave Airlie
2012-01-09  8:11         ` Dave Airlie
2012-01-09 10:10       ` InKi Dae
2012-01-09 10:10         ` InKi Dae
2012-01-09 10:10         ` InKi Dae
2012-01-09 10:27         ` Daniel Vetter
2012-01-09 10:27           ` Daniel Vetter
2012-01-09 10:27           ` Daniel Vetter
2012-01-09 12:06           ` InKi Dae
2012-01-09 12:06             ` InKi Dae
2012-01-09 12:06             ` InKi Dae
2012-01-09 16:02             ` Daniel Vetter
2012-01-09 16:02               ` Daniel Vetter
2012-01-09 16:02               ` Daniel Vetter
2012-01-09 15:17         ` Rob Clark
2012-01-09 15:17           ` Rob Clark
2012-01-09 15:17           ` Rob Clark
2012-01-10  1:34           ` InKi Dae
2012-01-10  1:34             ` InKi Dae
2012-01-10  1:34             ` InKi Dae
2012-01-10  2:14             ` Rob Clark
2012-01-10  2:14               ` Rob Clark
2012-01-10  2:14               ` Rob Clark
2012-01-10  6:09               ` Semwal, Sumit
2012-01-10  6:09                 ` Semwal, Sumit
2012-01-10  6:09                 ` Semwal, Sumit
2012-01-10  7:28                 ` InKi Dae
2012-01-10  7:28                   ` InKi Dae
2012-01-10  7:28                   ` InKi Dae
2012-01-10  9:19                   ` InKi Dae
2012-01-10  9:19                     ` InKi Dae
2012-01-10  9:19                     ` InKi Dae
2012-01-11  1:08               ` InKi Dae
2012-01-11  1:08                 ` InKi Dae
2012-01-11  1:08                 ` InKi Dae
2011-12-02  8:57 ` [RFC v2 2/2] dma-buf: Documentation for buffer sharing framework Sumit Semwal
2011-12-02  8:57   ` Sumit Semwal

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