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From: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
To: Leif Lindholm <leif@nuviainc.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Shashi Mallela <shashi.mallela@linaro.org>,
	Radoslaw Biernacki <rad@semihalf.com>,
	QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	narmstrong@baylibre.com, Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com>,
	qemu-arm <qemu-arm@nongnu.org>,
	Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 07/10] hw/arm/sbsa-ref: add ITS support in SBSA GIC
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2021 13:51:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFEAcA-HC1=arh_4ysPv2L1JyT6sA9n_1aqJv__1Z7+09kYxiA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210902124258.mqjhx7lqqvkczf6a@leviathan>

On Thu, 2 Sept 2021 at 13:43, Leif Lindholm <leif@nuviainc.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 14:27:19 +0100, Peter Maydell wrote:
> > If you want a command line switch to let the user say whether the
> > ITS should be present or not, you should use the same thing the
> > virt board does, which is a bool property "its".
> >
> > If you want the sbsa-ref board to become a proper "versioned machine
> > type" such that users can say "-M sbsa-ref-6.1" and get the SBSA
> > board exactly as QEMU 6.1 supplied it, that looks completely different
> > (and is a heavy back-compatibility burden, so needs discussion about
> > whether now is the right time to do it), and probably is better not
> > tangled up with this patchseries.
>
> Hmm. I mean, you're absolutely right about the complexity and need for
> discussion. My concern is that we cannot insert the ITS block in the
> memory map where it would be in an ARM GIC implementation without
> changing the memory map (pushing the redistributor further down).
>
> It is also true that simply versioning sbsa-ref does not mean we end
> up with a properly aligned with ARM IP register frame layout. Some
> additional logic is required for that.
>
> If we assume that we don't want to further complicate this set by
> adding the additional logic *now*, I see three options:
> - Implement memory map versioning for sbsa-ref for this set, placing
>   the ITS (if enabled) directly after the DIST for sbsa-ref-6.2.
> - In this set, place the ITS frames in a different location relative
>   to the REDIST frames than it will end up once the further logic is
>   implemented.
> - Drop the sbsa-ref ITS support from this set, and bring it in with
>   the set implementing the additional logic.

I don't think implementing versioned machine types helps you much
anyway, because your users are all going to be currently using
-M sbsa-ref, so they will by default see the change in device layout.

I do think that we should get the "with an ITS" device layout right
from the start, so that we're only dealing with 2 possibilities
(what we have today, and the final intended layout), not 3 (today,
final layout, some intermediate thing).

How does guest software on this board figure out the memory
layout ? Is there a mechanism for telling it "this is version 2
of this board" ?

-- PMM


  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-02 13:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-12 16:53 [PATCH v8 00/10] GICv3 LPI and ITS feature implementation Shashi Mallela
2021-08-12 16:53 ` [PATCH v8 01/10] hw/intc: GICv3 ITS initial framework Shashi Mallela
2021-08-12 16:53 ` [PATCH v8 02/10] hw/intc: GICv3 ITS register definitions added Shashi Mallela
2021-08-12 16:53 ` [PATCH v8 03/10] hw/intc: GICv3 ITS command queue framework Shashi Mallela
2021-08-12 16:53 ` [PATCH v8 04/10] hw/intc: GICv3 ITS Command processing Shashi Mallela
2021-08-13  7:51   ` Neil Armstrong
2021-08-12 16:53 ` [PATCH v8 05/10] hw/intc: GICv3 ITS Feature enablement Shashi Mallela
2021-08-12 16:53 ` [PATCH v8 06/10] hw/intc: GICv3 redistributor ITS processing Shashi Mallela
2021-08-19 13:21   ` Peter Maydell
2021-08-12 16:53 ` [PATCH v8 07/10] hw/arm/sbsa-ref: add ITS support in SBSA GIC Shashi Mallela
2021-08-19 13:27   ` Peter Maydell
2021-08-23 15:05     ` shashi.mallela
2021-09-02 12:42     ` Leif Lindholm
2021-09-02 12:51       ` Peter Maydell [this message]
2021-09-03 12:01         ` Leif Lindholm
2021-09-03 12:09           ` Peter Maydell
2021-09-23 16:00       ` Peter Maydell
2021-10-15 12:23         ` Leif Lindholm
2021-11-09 13:43           ` Peter Maydell
2021-11-09 20:42             ` Leif Lindholm
2021-11-09 21:21               ` Peter Maydell
2021-11-09 22:52                 ` Leif Lindholm
2021-11-11 16:55                   ` Peter Maydell
2021-11-11 18:21                     ` Leif Lindholm
2021-08-12 16:53 ` [PATCH v8 08/10] tests/data/acpi/virt: Add IORT files for ITS Shashi Mallela
2021-08-19 13:21   ` Peter Maydell
2021-08-12 16:53 ` [PATCH v8 09/10] hw/arm/virt: add ITS support in virt GIC Shashi Mallela
2021-08-12 16:53 ` [PATCH v8 10/10] tests/data/acpi/virt: Update IORT files for ITS Shashi Mallela
2021-08-19 13:22   ` Peter Maydell

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