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From: Tom Gundersen <teg@jklm.no>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Simplifying kernel configuration for distro issues
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 11:55:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAG-2HqVOJ=+YxaVOy2NSXt76zW8edJ0uP7NcObHhESwSwFHcqw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)

Linus,

[sorry for the messed up threading, I could not figure out how to make
gmail use in-relp-to]

> The point I'm slowly getting to is that I would actually love to have
> *distro* Kconfig-files, where the distribution would be able to say
> "These are the minimums I *require* to work". So we'd have a "Distro"
> submenu, where you could pick the distro(s) you use, and then pick
> which release, and we'd have something like

As someone working on one of the smaller distributions (Arch), I think
it would be even better if rather than having "distro" entries, we'd
have "application" entries. I.e., entries for applications that have
specific kernel requirements/suggestions (udev, systemd, upstart,
bootchart, pulseaudio, networkmanager, etc). If applications have soft
requirements, they could have sub-entries explaining the benefit of
enabling each.

In most cases, what a distro needs depends just on what applications
they ship, so you'd get the distro entries almost for free (fedora
selects systemd, udev, ...).

As was pointed out by someone else in this thread, it might easily
happen that applications change their kernel requirements without the
packagers noticing, or at least without the kernel packager being
told. If it had been possible for applications to ship drop-in Kconfig
files that they would install to a certain location, and the kernel
would simply pick them up, that would put the responsibility of
maintaining these things in the hands of the people who know the best
(the application developers).

Cheers,

Tom

             reply	other threads:[~2012-07-18  9:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-18  9:55 Tom Gundersen [this message]
2012-07-22 20:10 ` [RFC] Simplifying kernel configuration for distro issues David Greaves
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-07-13 20:37 Linus Torvalds
2012-07-13 20:54 ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-07-13 21:02 ` Dave Jones
2012-07-13 21:17   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-07-13 22:26     ` Josh Boyer
2012-07-19 15:26     ` Steven Rostedt
2012-07-19 15:43       ` Linus Torvalds
2012-07-19 16:12         ` Steven Rostedt
2012-07-19 15:45       ` Josh Boyer
2012-07-19 16:08         ` Steven Rostedt
2012-07-19 17:19           ` Josh Boyer
2012-07-19 17:30             ` Alan Cox
2012-07-19 17:38               ` Josh Boyer
2012-07-19 21:13               ` Ben Hutchings
2012-07-20  2:44                 ` david
2012-07-19 17:33             ` Steven Rostedt
2012-07-19 17:41               ` Alan Cox
2012-07-19 17:56               ` Josh Boyer
2012-07-19 18:13                 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-07-19 18:36                   ` Josh Boyer
2012-07-19 21:04                     ` david
2012-07-19 22:35                       ` Josh Boyer
2012-07-19 22:49                         ` Steven Rostedt
2012-07-21 20:47                 ` valdis.kletnieks
2012-07-19 18:20             ` Paul Bolle
2012-07-19 18:22               ` Josh Boyer
2012-07-19 18:49                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2012-07-19 18:55                   ` Paul Bolle
2012-07-19 21:30                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2012-07-13 21:29   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2012-07-13 21:50   ` Paul Bolle
2012-07-13 21:55     ` Dave Jones
2012-07-13 22:11       ` Tony Luck
2012-07-13 22:20       ` Paul Bolle
2012-07-13 23:07       ` Frank Rowand
2012-07-13 21:06 ` Khalid Aziz
2012-07-13 21:17 ` Casey Schaufler
2012-07-13 21:20   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-07-13 22:13     ` david
2012-07-13 21:59 ` Hans de Bruin
2012-07-13 22:33 ` Jesper Juhl
2012-07-13 22:46   ` david
2012-07-14  9:44   ` Olivier Galibert
2012-07-14  4:18 ` Ben Hutchings
2012-07-14 12:35   ` Josh Boyer
2012-07-19  1:48 ` Steven Yong
2012-07-20  9:47 ` Jiri Kosina
2012-07-20 10:26   ` Sam Ravnborg

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