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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <greg@kroah.com>,
	Ubuntu Kernel Team <kernel-team@lists.ubuntu.com>,
	Debian Kernel Team <debian-kernel@lists.debian.org>,
	OpenSUSE Kernel Team <opensuse-kernel@opensuse.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Fedora Kernel Team <kernel-team@fedoraproject.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Simplifying kernel configuration for distro issues
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:12:02 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1342714322.12353.36.camel@gandalf.stny.rr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFzTq2CNxPa3X+N=biFgifrmWbeWQJZLVFAFdySWXQCKXg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 2012-07-19 at 08:43 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
> >
> > Side note, and this is for the 1%. If you want a true minconfig for your
> > system, ktest can do that for you.
> 
> Try it, it's actually much harder than it seems. Like allmodconfig, it
> handles the minimum hardware well, but it tends to handle the subtle
> issues really badly.
> 
> Many config options cause *very* subtle failures that are almost
> impossible to see. Like firewalls not loading correctly (and leaving
> the machine completely open), or just stuff that you didn't happen to
> test (USB sticks, printers, certain programs) not working. Not having
> the right audit options will make things still "work", but you'll get
> warnings at bootup, and who knows what that causes etc etc.
> 
> These kinds of things are exactly why I'd like to have a distro config.

This is why it was more of a side note, and for the 1%. If there's
things you have tests for, to confirm that they work, you could add
those to the TEST option, and the config generated will guarantee to fix
them.

But as you stated, there's lots of subtle things that can go wrong. I
was just posting this as a plug for ktest ;-)

For what you want, I think having the distro supply
a /usr/share/Linux/Kconfig that the linux build system can use would be
very helpful.

-- Steve



  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-19 16:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-13 20:37 [RFC] Simplifying kernel configuration for distro issues Linus Torvalds
2012-07-13 20:54 ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-07-13 21:41   ` [opensuse-kernel] " richard -rw- weinberger
2012-07-14 10:37     ` Borislav Petkov
2012-07-14 12:12       ` Pekka Enberg
2012-07-14 12:43         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-07-14 17:48           ` Borislav Petkov
2012-07-14 18:51             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-07-14 19:51               ` david
2012-07-19 14:42             ` Steven Rostedt
2012-07-19 16:48               ` Borislav Petkov
2012-07-19 17:02                 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-07-19 17:34                   ` Borislav Petkov
2012-07-19 17:57                     ` Steven Rostedt
2012-07-19 18:09                       ` Borislav Petkov
2012-07-19 17:06                 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-07-19 17:53                   ` Borislav Petkov
2012-07-19 18:42                     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-07-15 10:14         ` Borislav Petkov
2012-07-15 10:17           ` Pekka Enberg
2012-07-15 21:18             ` Borislav Petkov
2012-07-15 21:48               ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-07-15 22:09                 ` david
2012-07-15 22:22                   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-07-15 23:06                     ` david
2012-07-16  8:24                   ` Borislav Petkov
2012-07-16 16:43                     ` david
2012-07-16 16:50                       ` Linus Torvalds
2012-07-16 19:26                         ` david
2012-07-16 20:56                           ` Linus Torvalds
2012-07-16 22:21                             ` david
2012-07-18  7:04                               ` Ingo Molnar
2012-07-18  8:42                                 ` david
2012-07-18  9:13                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2012-07-17  8:03                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2012-07-19 16:01                               ` Michal Marek
2012-07-16 17:01                     ` Alan Cox
2012-07-16 17:05                       ` david
2012-07-13 21:02 ` Dave Jones
2012-07-13 21:17   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-07-13 22:26     ` Josh Boyer
2012-07-19 15:26     ` Steven Rostedt
2012-07-19 15:43       ` Linus Torvalds
2012-07-19 16:12         ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2012-07-19 15:45       ` Josh Boyer
2012-07-19 16:08         ` Steven Rostedt
2012-07-19 17:19           ` Josh Boyer
2012-07-19 17:30             ` Alan Cox
2012-07-19 17:38               ` Josh Boyer
2012-07-19 21:13               ` Ben Hutchings
2012-07-20  2:44                 ` david
2012-07-19 17:33             ` Steven Rostedt
2012-07-19 17:41               ` Alan Cox
2012-07-19 17:56               ` Josh Boyer
2012-07-19 18:13                 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-07-19 18:36                   ` Josh Boyer
2012-07-19 21:04                     ` david
2012-07-19 22:35                       ` Josh Boyer
2012-07-19 22:49                         ` Steven Rostedt
2012-07-21 20:47                 ` valdis.kletnieks
2012-07-19 18:20             ` Paul Bolle
2012-07-19 18:22               ` Josh Boyer
2012-07-19 18:49                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2012-07-19 18:55                   ` Paul Bolle
2012-07-19 21:30                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2012-07-13 21:29   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2012-07-13 21:50   ` Paul Bolle
2012-07-13 21:55     ` Dave Jones
2012-07-13 22:11       ` Tony Luck
2012-07-13 22:20       ` Paul Bolle
2012-07-13 23:07       ` Frank Rowand
2012-07-13 21:06 ` Khalid Aziz
2012-07-13 21:17 ` Casey Schaufler
2012-07-13 21:20   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-07-13 22:13     ` david
2012-07-13 21:59 ` Hans de Bruin
2012-07-13 22:33 ` Jesper Juhl
2012-07-13 22:46   ` david
2012-07-14  9:44   ` Olivier Galibert
2012-07-14  4:18 ` Ben Hutchings
2012-07-14 12:35   ` Josh Boyer
2012-07-19  1:48 ` Steven Yong
2012-07-20  9:47 ` Jiri Kosina
2012-07-20 10:26   ` Sam Ravnborg
2012-07-18  9:55 Tom Gundersen
2012-07-22 20:10 ` David Greaves

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