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From: Julian Calaby <julian.calaby-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: andre.przywara-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org
Cc: Maxime Ripard
	<maxime.ripard-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
	Linus Walleij
	<linus.walleij-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-gpio-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	"linux-sunxi-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-sunxi-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: reason for Allwinner SoC specific pinctrl drivers?
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 09:04:00 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGRGNgUVNGoOUNqyySjYzkL4KfEWK8orYH-AMxoCX-9N0R80-A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <568A514D.7070102-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>

Hi Andre,

On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 10:02 PM, Andre Przywara <andre.przywara-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> while looking at the Allwinner A64 SoC support, I was wondering why we
> would actually need a pinctrl driver (file) for each and every Allwinner
> SoC that we support.
> Looking at both the A20 and the A64 doc I don't see any differences in
> the port controller implementation apart from the actual
> muxval <-> subsystem assignment, which is just data, right?
> Comparing the code files in drivers/pinctrl/sunxi seems to support this,
> as those drivers only consist of the table and some boilerplate code.
>
> Now I was wondering whether we could get away with one generic Allwinner
> pinctrl driver and put the SoC specific pin assignments in DT instead.
> It looks like adding an "allwinner,muxval" property in addition to the
> existing "allwinner,function" in the SoC's .dtsi would give us all the
> information we need. This could look like:
>
>         uart0_pins_a: uart0@0 {
>                 allwinner,pins =   "PB22", "PB23";
> +               allwinner,muxval = <0x02    0x02>;
>                 allwinner,function = "uart0";
>                 allwinner,drive = <SUN4I_PINCTRL_10_MA>;
>                 allwinner,pull = <SUN4I_PINCTRL_NO_PULL>;
>         };
>
> Would it make sense that I sit down and prototype such a driver?
>
> We should keep compatibility with older DTs by keeping the existing
> drivers in (or maybe emulating the current behaviour by providing just
> those tables as a fallback) , but newer SoCs (like the A64?) would not
> need a SoC specific driver, but just go with that generic driver and
> appropriate DT properties.
>
> I appreciate any comments on this, especially if I missed something
> which would render this approach impossible or tedious.

I think that, as Michal said, merging the drivers might be possible,
however there's another three functions the drivers serve:

1. they're good documentation of how it's all configured. I'm not sure
your device tree based approach will be as user friendly in this
regard.

2. they list stuff we don't have a driver / hardware for yet

3. the policy on device-tree is to only include stuff we know is
working, which means we have a driver and hardware for that particular
thing. Device tree files for boards or SoCs have been rejected because
they list stuff that isn't used yet.

Thanks,

-- 
Julian Calaby

Email: julian.calaby-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
Profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/julian.calaby/

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From: julian.calaby@gmail.com (Julian Calaby)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [linux-sunxi] reason for Allwinner SoC specific pinctrl drivers?
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 09:04:00 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGRGNgUVNGoOUNqyySjYzkL4KfEWK8orYH-AMxoCX-9N0R80-A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <568A514D.7070102@arm.com>

Hi Andre,

On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 10:02 PM, Andre Przywara <andre.przywara@arm.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> while looking at the Allwinner A64 SoC support, I was wondering why we
> would actually need a pinctrl driver (file) for each and every Allwinner
> SoC that we support.
> Looking at both the A20 and the A64 doc I don't see any differences in
> the port controller implementation apart from the actual
> muxval <-> subsystem assignment, which is just data, right?
> Comparing the code files in drivers/pinctrl/sunxi seems to support this,
> as those drivers only consist of the table and some boilerplate code.
>
> Now I was wondering whether we could get away with one generic Allwinner
> pinctrl driver and put the SoC specific pin assignments in DT instead.
> It looks like adding an "allwinner,muxval" property in addition to the
> existing "allwinner,function" in the SoC's .dtsi would give us all the
> information we need. This could look like:
>
>         uart0_pins_a: uart0 at 0 {
>                 allwinner,pins =   "PB22", "PB23";
> +               allwinner,muxval = <0x02    0x02>;
>                 allwinner,function = "uart0";
>                 allwinner,drive = <SUN4I_PINCTRL_10_MA>;
>                 allwinner,pull = <SUN4I_PINCTRL_NO_PULL>;
>         };
>
> Would it make sense that I sit down and prototype such a driver?
>
> We should keep compatibility with older DTs by keeping the existing
> drivers in (or maybe emulating the current behaviour by providing just
> those tables as a fallback) , but newer SoCs (like the A64?) would not
> need a SoC specific driver, but just go with that generic driver and
> appropriate DT properties.
>
> I appreciate any comments on this, especially if I missed something
> which would render this approach impossible or tedious.

I think that, as Michal said, merging the drivers might be possible,
however there's another three functions the drivers serve:

1. they're good documentation of how it's all configured. I'm not sure
your device tree based approach will be as user friendly in this
regard.

2. they list stuff we don't have a driver / hardware for yet

3. the policy on device-tree is to only include stuff we know is
working, which means we have a driver and hardware for that particular
thing. Device tree files for boards or SoCs have been rejected because
they list stuff that isn't used yet.

Thanks,

-- 
Julian Calaby

Email: julian.calaby at gmail.com
Profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/julian.calaby/

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-01-04 22:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-04 11:02 reason for Allwinner SoC specific pinctrl drivers? Andre Przywara
2016-01-04 11:02 ` Andre Przywara
     [not found] ` <568A514D.7070102-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-04 17:27   ` Vishnu Patekar
     [not found]     ` <CAEzqOZu8wkPKLp6bZZ7JuiM07ixDksdD=U-WK=3kFPYJZMon4Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-04 21:36       ` Michal Suchanek
2016-01-04 21:36         ` [linux-sunxi] " Michal Suchanek
     [not found]         ` <CAOMqctQL3nmWECpQgtVdxgzEfn2obu4cdj67W1ESONO=5EpQdQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-05 12:05           ` Andre Przywara
2016-01-05 12:05             ` [linux-sunxi] " Andre Przywara
2016-01-05 15:20             ` Michal Suchanek
2016-01-05 15:20               ` Michal Suchanek
2016-01-04 22:04   ` Julian Calaby [this message]
2016-01-04 22:04     ` Julian Calaby
     [not found]     ` <CAGRGNgUVNGoOUNqyySjYzkL4KfEWK8orYH-AMxoCX-9N0R80-A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-05 12:24       ` Andre Przywara
2016-01-05 12:24         ` [linux-sunxi] " Andre Przywara
2016-01-05 13:10   ` Maxime Ripard
2016-01-05 13:10     ` Maxime Ripard
2016-01-07 10:06     ` Linus Walleij
2016-01-07 10:06       ` Linus Walleij
2016-01-05  2:21 ` [linux-sunxi] " Chen-Yu Tsai
2016-01-05  2:21   ` Chen-Yu Tsai

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