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From: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"Gustavo A. R. Silva" <gustavo@embeddedor.com>,
	Eric Biggers <ebiggers@google.com>,
	Alasdair Kergon <agk@redhat.com>,
	Giovanni Cabiddu <giovanni.cabiddu@intel.com>,
	Lars Persson <larper@axis.com>, Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>,
	Rabin Vincent <rabinv@axis.com>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com>,
	"open list:HARDWARE RANDOM NUMBER GENERATOR CORE"
	<linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>,
	qat-linux@intel.com, dm-devel@redhat.com,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 11/14] treewide: Prepare to remove VLA usage for AHASH_REQUEST_ON_STACK
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 23:00:03 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGXu5jLG4gE44z9cXL3-D1bjbZB1RgTnTsb3PWhU7B3NdRrwVg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180713052029.cfo24bsr5swtbdja@gondor.apana.org.au>

On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 10:20 PM, Herbert Xu
<herbert@gondor.apana.org.au> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 10:17:29PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
>>
>> Then why does the instrumented tcrypt output show the huge size? Is
>> tcrypt doing something incorrectly?
>
> tcrypt doesn't even use AHASH_REQUEST_ON_STACK so I don't understand
> your point.

It's using crypto_ahash_set_reqsize(), which is what
AHASH_REQUEST_ON_STACK() reads back via crypto_ahash_reqsize() (i.e.
tfm->reqsize). It sounds like you're saying that there are cases where
an ahash is constructed (and will call crypto_ahash_set_reqsize()) but
where it cannot be used with AHASH_REQUEST_ON_STACK()? What actually
enforces this, since there will be a difference between
crypto_ahash_set_reqsize() (as seen with sha512-mb) and the actually
allowed stack usage. (i.e. where should I perform a check against the
new fixed value?)

>> What is the correct value to use for AHASH_REQUEST_ON_STACK?
>
> As I said to arrive at a fixed value you should examine all sync
> ahash algorithms (e.g., all shash ones plus ahash ones marked as
> sync if there are any).

The "value" for the ahash I understand: it has a request size
(tfm->reqsize, as set by crypto_ahash_set_reqsize()) what should be
used to measure the shash value? (And how does this relate to the
value returned by crypto_ahash_reqsize()?) The closest clue I can find
is this:

crypto_init_shash_ops_async() does:
        crt->reqsize = sizeof(struct shash_desc) + crypto_shash_descsize(shash);

and that gets called from crypto_ahash_init_tfm(), so if it starts
with the above reqsize and adds to it with a call to
crypto_ahash_set_reqsize() later, we'll have that maximum?

So, do I want to calculate this answer as:

sizeof(struct shash_desc) + max(shash descsize) + max(ahash-sync reqsize) ?
16 + 360 + 0

It's 0 above because if I look at all the callers of
crypto_ahash_set_reqsize() that do wrapping, all are ASYNC.

So, should this really just be 376? Where is best to validate this
size, as it seems checking in crypto_ahash_set_reqsize() is
inappropriate?

-Kees

-- 
Kees Cook
Pixel Security

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-13  6:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-11 20:36 [PATCH v4 00/14] crypto: Remove VLA usage Kees Cook
2018-07-11 20:36 ` [PATCH v4 01/14] crypto: xcbc: " Kees Cook
2018-07-11 20:36   ` Kees Cook
2018-07-11 20:36 ` [PATCH v4 02/14] crypto: cbc: " Kees Cook
2018-07-11 20:36   ` Kees Cook
2018-07-11 20:36 ` [PATCH v4 03/14] crypto: shash: " Kees Cook
2018-07-11 20:36 ` [PATCH v4 04/14] dm integrity: " Kees Cook
2018-07-11 20:36 ` [PATCH v4 05/14] crypto: ahash: " Kees Cook
2018-07-11 20:36   ` Kees Cook
2018-07-11 20:36 ` [PATCH v4 06/14] dm verity fec: " Kees Cook
2018-07-11 20:36   ` Kees Cook
2018-07-11 20:36 ` [PATCH v4 07/14] crypto alg: Introduce generic max blocksize and alignmask Kees Cook
2018-07-11 20:36   ` Kees Cook
2018-07-11 20:36 ` [PATCH v4 08/14] crypto: qat: Remove VLA usage Kees Cook
2018-07-11 20:36 ` [PATCH v4 09/14] crypto: shash: Remove VLA usage in unaligned hashing Kees Cook
2018-07-11 20:36 ` [PATCH v4 10/14] kbuild: Introduce FRAME_WARN_BUMP_FLAG Kees Cook
2018-07-11 20:36   ` Kees Cook
2018-07-11 20:36 ` [PATCH v4 11/14] treewide: Prepare to remove VLA usage for AHASH_REQUEST_ON_STACK Kees Cook
2018-07-12 16:02   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-07-12 16:02     ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-07-12 20:17     ` Kees Cook
2018-07-12 20:17       ` Kees Cook
2018-07-12 21:38       ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-07-12 21:38         ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-07-13  0:40     ` Herbert Xu
2018-07-13  0:40       ` Herbert Xu
2018-07-13  3:33       ` Kees Cook
2018-07-13  3:33         ` Kees Cook
2018-07-13  3:44         ` Herbert Xu
2018-07-13  3:44           ` Herbert Xu
2018-07-13  5:17           ` Kees Cook
2018-07-13  5:17             ` Kees Cook
2018-07-13  5:20             ` Herbert Xu
2018-07-13  5:20               ` Herbert Xu
2018-07-13  6:00               ` Kees Cook [this message]
2018-07-13  6:00                 ` Kees Cook
2018-07-13 10:14                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-07-13 10:14                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-07-15  4:28                   ` Kees Cook
2018-07-15  4:28                     ` Kees Cook
2018-07-17 20:59                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-07-17 20:59                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-07-18 14:50                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-07-18 14:50                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-07-18 15:19                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-07-18 15:19                           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-07-18 15:33                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-07-18 15:33                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-07-18 15:33                             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-07-18 15:33                               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-07-19  2:51                           ` Kees Cook
2018-07-19  2:51                             ` Kees Cook
2018-07-19  2:55                             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-07-19  2:55                               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-07-19  3:09                               ` Kees Cook
2018-07-19  3:09                                 ` Kees Cook
2018-07-19  3:13                                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-07-19  3:13                                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-07-19 14:54                                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-07-19 14:54                                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-07-19 18:44                                     ` Kees Cook
2018-07-19 18:44                                       ` Kees Cook
2018-07-13  6:16       ` Kees Cook
2018-07-13  6:16         ` Kees Cook
2018-07-13  6:22         ` Herbert Xu
2018-07-13  6:22           ` Herbert Xu
2018-07-14  3:07           ` Kees Cook
2018-07-14  3:07             ` Kees Cook
2018-07-15  2:44             ` Herbert Xu
2018-07-15  2:44               ` Herbert Xu
2018-07-15  2:59               ` Kees Cook
2018-07-15  2:59                 ` Kees Cook
2018-07-16  0:01                 ` Herbert Xu
2018-07-16  0:01                   ` Herbert Xu
2018-07-16  3:39                   ` Kees Cook
2018-07-16  3:39                     ` Kees Cook
2018-07-16  7:24                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-07-16  7:24                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-07-11 20:36 ` [PATCH v4 12/14] crypto: ahash: Remove " Kees Cook
2018-07-11 20:36 ` [PATCH v4 13/14] rxrpc: Prepare to remove VLA usage for SKCIPHER_REQUEST_ON_STACK Kees Cook
2018-07-12 15:11   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-07-12 15:11     ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-07-12 15:11     ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-07-12 20:23     ` Kees Cook
2018-07-12 20:23       ` Kees Cook
2018-07-12 20:30       ` Kees Cook
2018-07-12 20:30         ` Kees Cook
2018-07-12 21:15         ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-07-12 21:15           ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-07-12 21:38           ` Kees Cook
2018-07-12 21:38             ` Kees Cook
2018-07-12 21:28   ` David Howells
2018-07-12 21:28     ` David Howells
2018-07-12 21:34     ` Kees Cook
2018-07-12 21:34       ` Kees Cook
2018-07-12 22:05   ` David Howells
2018-07-12 22:05     ` David Howells
2018-07-11 20:36 ` [PATCH v4 14/14] crypto: skcipher: Remove " Kees Cook

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