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From: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
To: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
Cc: "Dave Martin" <Dave.Martin@arm.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Okamoto Takayuki" <tokamoto@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	libc-alpha <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	"Ard Biesheuvel" <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	"Szabolcs Nagy" <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com>,
	"Catalin Marinas" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
	kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 15/30] arm64/sve: Signal handling support
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2017 10:50:38 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGXu5jLO6tHm-mCPBo-csCw--+_jhLfGD_sHXCkFjmyvdame=g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171207104948.GE31900@arm.com>

On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 2:49 AM, Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com> wrote:
> Hi Kees,
>
> On Wed, Dec 06, 2017 at 11:56:50AM -0800, Kees Cook wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 8:51 AM, Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com> wrote:
>> > Miscellaneous:
>> >
>> >  * Change inconsistent copy_to_user() calls to __copy_to_user() in
>> >    preserve_sve_context().
>> >
>> >    There are already __put_user_error() calls here.
>> >
>> >    The whole extended signal frame is already checked for
>> >    access_ok(VERIFY_WRITE) in get_sigframe().
>>
>> Verifying all these __copy_to/from_user() calls is rather non-trivial.
>> For example, I had to understand that the access_ok() check actually
>> spans memory that both user->sigframe and user->next_frame point into.
>
> I don't think that's particularly difficult -- you just have to read the
> four lines preceding the access_ok.

Sure, but someone working backward from finding the __copy_*, it's
less obvious. :)

>> And it isn't clear to me that all users of apply_user_offset() are
>> within this range too, along with other manually calculated offsets in
>> setup_sigframe().
>
> The offsets passed into apply_user_offset are calculated by
> setup_sigframe_layout as the stack is allocated, so they're correct by
> construction. We could add a size check in apply_user_offset if you like?
>
>> And it's not clear if parse_user_sigframe() is safe either. Are
>> user->fpsimd and user->sve checked somewhere? It seems like it's
>> safely contained by in sf->uc.uc_mcontext.__reserved, but it's hard to
>> read, though I do see access_ok() checks against __reserved at the end
>> of the while loop.
>
> This one is certainly more difficult to follow, mainly because it's spread
> about a bit and we have to check the extra context separately. However, the
> main part of the frame is checked in sys_rt_sigreturn before calling
> restore_sigframe, and the extra context is checked in parse_user_sigframe
> if we find it.
>
> Dave, any thoughts on making this easier to understand?

My question is mainly: why not just use copy_*() everywhere instead?
Having these things so spread out makes it fragile, and there's very
little performance benefit from using __copy_*() over copy_*().

As far as I can see, everything looks correctly checked here, but it
took a while to convince myself of it. Having Dave's description in
the other reply certainly helped, though, thanks for that! :)

-Kees

-- 
Kees Cook
Pixel Security

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: keescook@chromium.org (Kees Cook)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v5 15/30] arm64/sve: Signal handling support
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2017 10:50:38 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGXu5jLO6tHm-mCPBo-csCw--+_jhLfGD_sHXCkFjmyvdame=g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171207104948.GE31900@arm.com>

On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 2:49 AM, Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com> wrote:
> Hi Kees,
>
> On Wed, Dec 06, 2017 at 11:56:50AM -0800, Kees Cook wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 8:51 AM, Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com> wrote:
>> > Miscellaneous:
>> >
>> >  * Change inconsistent copy_to_user() calls to __copy_to_user() in
>> >    preserve_sve_context().
>> >
>> >    There are already __put_user_error() calls here.
>> >
>> >    The whole extended signal frame is already checked for
>> >    access_ok(VERIFY_WRITE) in get_sigframe().
>>
>> Verifying all these __copy_to/from_user() calls is rather non-trivial.
>> For example, I had to understand that the access_ok() check actually
>> spans memory that both user->sigframe and user->next_frame point into.
>
> I don't think that's particularly difficult -- you just have to read the
> four lines preceding the access_ok.

Sure, but someone working backward from finding the __copy_*, it's
less obvious. :)

>> And it isn't clear to me that all users of apply_user_offset() are
>> within this range too, along with other manually calculated offsets in
>> setup_sigframe().
>
> The offsets passed into apply_user_offset are calculated by
> setup_sigframe_layout as the stack is allocated, so they're correct by
> construction. We could add a size check in apply_user_offset if you like?
>
>> And it's not clear if parse_user_sigframe() is safe either. Are
>> user->fpsimd and user->sve checked somewhere? It seems like it's
>> safely contained by in sf->uc.uc_mcontext.__reserved, but it's hard to
>> read, though I do see access_ok() checks against __reserved at the end
>> of the while loop.
>
> This one is certainly more difficult to follow, mainly because it's spread
> about a bit and we have to check the extra context separately. However, the
> main part of the frame is checked in sys_rt_sigreturn before calling
> restore_sigframe, and the extra context is checked in parse_user_sigframe
> if we find it.
>
> Dave, any thoughts on making this easier to understand?

My question is mainly: why not just use copy_*() everywhere instead?
Having these things so spread out makes it fragile, and there's very
little performance benefit from using __copy_*() over copy_*().

As far as I can see, everything looks correctly checked here, but it
took a while to convince myself of it. Having Dave's description in
the other reply certainly helped, though, thanks for that! :)

-Kees

-- 
Kees Cook
Pixel Security

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-12-07 18:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 174+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-31 15:50 [PATCH v5 00/30] ARM Scalable Vector Extension (SVE) Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:50 ` Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:50 ` Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:50 ` [PATCH v5 01/30] regset: Add support for dynamically sized regsets Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:50   ` Dave Martin
2017-11-01 11:42   ` Catalin Marinas
2017-11-01 11:42     ` Catalin Marinas
2017-11-01 13:16     ` Dave Martin
2017-11-01 13:16       ` Dave Martin
2017-11-08 11:50       ` Alex Bennée
2017-11-08 11:50         ` Alex Bennée
2017-11-08 11:50         ` Alex Bennée
2017-10-31 15:50 ` [PATCH v5 02/30] arm64: fpsimd: Correctly annotate exception helpers called from asm Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:50   ` Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:50   ` Dave Martin
2017-11-01 11:42   ` Catalin Marinas
2017-11-01 11:42     ` Catalin Marinas
2017-10-31 15:50 ` [PATCH v5 03/30] arm64: signal: Verify extra data is user-readable in sys_rt_sigreturn Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:50   ` Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:50   ` Dave Martin
2017-11-01 11:43   ` Catalin Marinas
2017-11-01 11:43     ` Catalin Marinas
2017-10-31 15:50 ` [PATCH v5 04/30] arm64: KVM: Hide unsupported AArch64 CPU features from guests Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:50   ` Dave Martin
2017-11-01  4:47   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-11-01  4:47     ` Christoffer Dall
2017-11-01 10:26     ` Dave Martin
2017-11-01 10:26       ` Dave Martin
2017-11-02  8:15       ` Christoffer Dall
2017-11-02  8:15         ` Christoffer Dall
2017-11-02  9:20         ` Dave Martin
2017-11-02  9:20           ` Dave Martin
2017-11-02 11:01         ` Dave Martin
2017-11-02 11:01           ` Dave Martin
2017-11-02 19:18           ` Christoffer Dall
2017-11-02 19:18             ` Christoffer Dall
2017-10-31 15:50 ` [PATCH v5 05/30] arm64: efi: Add missing Kconfig dependency on KERNEL_MODE_NEON Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:50   ` Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:50   ` Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:50 ` [PATCH v5 06/30] arm64: Port deprecated instruction emulation to new sysctl interface Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:50   ` Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:50 ` [PATCH v5 07/30] arm64: fpsimd: Simplify uses of {set,clear}_ti_thread_flag() Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:50   ` [PATCH v5 07/30] arm64: fpsimd: Simplify uses of {set, clear}_ti_thread_flag() Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51 ` [PATCH v5 08/30] arm64/sve: System register and exception syndrome definitions Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51   ` Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51 ` [PATCH v5 09/30] arm64/sve: Low-level SVE architectural state manipulation functions Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51   ` Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51 ` [PATCH v5 10/30] arm64/sve: Kconfig update and conditional compilation support Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51   ` Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51 ` [PATCH v5 11/30] arm64/sve: Signal frame and context structure definition Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51   ` Dave Martin
2017-11-08 16:34   ` Alex Bennée
2017-11-08 16:34     ` Alex Bennée
2017-11-08 16:34     ` Alex Bennée
2017-10-31 15:51 ` [PATCH v5 12/30] arm64/sve: Low-level CPU setup Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51   ` Dave Martin
2017-11-08 16:37   ` Alex Bennée
2017-11-08 16:37     ` Alex Bennée
2017-11-08 16:37     ` Alex Bennée
2017-10-31 15:51 ` [PATCH v5 13/30] arm64/sve: Core task context handling Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51   ` Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51   ` Dave Martin
2017-11-09 17:16   ` Alex Bennée
2017-11-09 17:16     ` Alex Bennée
2017-11-09 17:16     ` Alex Bennée
2017-11-09 17:56     ` Dave Martin
2017-11-09 17:56       ` Dave Martin
2017-11-09 18:06       ` Alex Bennée
2017-11-09 18:06         ` Alex Bennée
2017-11-09 18:06         ` Alex Bennée
2017-10-31 15:51 ` [PATCH v5 14/30] arm64/sve: Support vector length resetting for new processes Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51   ` Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51 ` [PATCH v5 15/30] arm64/sve: Signal handling support Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51   ` Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51   ` Dave Martin
2017-11-01 14:33   ` Catalin Marinas
2017-11-01 14:33     ` Catalin Marinas
2017-11-07 13:22   ` Alex Bennée
2017-11-07 13:22     ` Alex Bennée
2017-11-07 13:22     ` Alex Bennée
2017-11-08 16:11     ` Dave Martin
2017-11-08 16:11       ` Dave Martin
2017-12-06 19:56   ` Kees Cook
2017-12-06 19:56     ` Kees Cook
2017-12-07 10:49     ` Will Deacon
2017-12-07 10:49       ` Will Deacon
2017-12-07 12:03       ` Dave Martin
2017-12-07 12:03         ` Dave Martin
2017-12-07 18:50       ` Kees Cook [this message]
2017-12-07 18:50         ` Kees Cook
2017-12-11 14:07         ` Will Deacon
2017-12-11 14:07           ` Will Deacon
2017-12-11 19:23           ` Kees Cook
2017-12-11 19:23             ` Kees Cook
2017-12-12 10:40             ` Will Deacon
2017-12-12 10:40               ` Will Deacon
2017-12-12 11:11               ` Dave Martin
2017-12-12 11:11                 ` Dave Martin
2017-12-12 19:36                 ` Kees Cook
2017-12-12 19:36                   ` Kees Cook
2017-12-12 19:36                   ` Kees Cook
2017-10-31 15:51 ` [PATCH v5 16/30] arm64/sve: Backend logic for setting the vector length Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51   ` Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51   ` Dave Martin
2017-11-10 10:27   ` Alex Bennée
2017-11-10 10:27     ` Alex Bennée
2017-11-10 10:27     ` Alex Bennée
2017-10-31 15:51 ` [PATCH v5 17/30] arm64: cpufeature: Move sys_caps_initialised declarations Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51   ` Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51 ` [PATCH v5 18/30] arm64/sve: Probe SVE capabilities and usable vector lengths Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51   ` Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51   ` Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51 ` [PATCH v5 19/30] arm64/sve: Preserve SVE registers around kernel-mode NEON use Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51   ` Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51 ` [PATCH v5 20/30] arm64/sve: Preserve SVE registers around EFI runtime service calls Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51   ` Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51 ` [PATCH v5 21/30] arm64/sve: ptrace and ELF coredump support Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51   ` Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51 ` [PATCH v5 22/30] arm64/sve: Add prctl controls for userspace vector length management Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51   ` Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51   ` Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51 ` [PATCH v5 23/30] arm64/sve: Add sysctl to set the default vector length for new processes Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51   ` Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51   ` Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51 ` [PATCH v5 24/30] arm64/sve: KVM: Prevent guests from using SVE Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51   ` Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51   ` Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51 ` [PATCH v5 25/30] arm64/sve: KVM: Treat guest SVE use as undefined instruction execution Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51   ` Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51 ` [PATCH v5 26/30] arm64/sve: KVM: Hide SVE from CPU features exposed to guests Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51   ` Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51 ` [PATCH v5 27/30] arm64/sve: Detect SVE and activate runtime support Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51   ` Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51   ` Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51 ` [RFC PATCH v5 29/30] arm64: signal: Report signal frame size to userspace via auxv Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51   ` Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51   ` Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51 ` [RFC PATCH v5 30/30] arm64/sve: signal: Include SVE when computing AT_MINSIGSTKSZ Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51   ` Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51   ` Dave Martin
     [not found] ` <1509465082-30427-1-git-send-email-Dave.Martin-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-31 15:51   ` [PATCH v5 28/30] arm64/sve: Add documentation Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51     ` Dave Martin
2017-10-31 15:51     ` Dave Martin
2017-11-02 16:32   ` [PATCH v5 00/30] ARM Scalable Vector Extension (SVE) Will Deacon
2017-11-02 16:32     ` Will Deacon
2017-11-02 16:32     ` Will Deacon
     [not found]     ` <20171102163248.GB595-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-02 17:04       ` Dave P Martin
2017-11-02 17:04         ` Dave P Martin
2017-11-02 17:04         ` Dave P Martin
2017-11-29 15:04 ` Alex Bennée
2017-11-29 15:04   ` Alex Bennée
2017-11-29 15:04   ` Alex Bennée
     [not found]   ` <877eu9dt3n.fsf-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-29 15:21     ` Will Deacon
2017-11-29 15:21       ` Will Deacon
2017-11-29 15:21       ` Will Deacon
     [not found]       ` <20171129152140.GD10650-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-29 15:37         ` Dave Martin
2017-11-29 15:37           ` Dave Martin
2017-11-29 15:37           ` Dave Martin
2018-01-08 14:49 ` Yury Norov
2018-01-08 14:49   ` Yury Norov
2018-01-08 14:49   ` Yury Norov
2018-01-09 16:51   ` Yury Norov
2018-01-09 16:51     ` Yury Norov
2018-01-09 16:51     ` Yury Norov
2018-01-15 17:22     ` Dave Martin
2018-01-15 17:22       ` Dave Martin
2018-01-15 17:22       ` Dave Martin
     [not found]       ` <20180115172201.GW22781-M5GwZQ6tE7x5pKCnmE3YQBJ8xKzm50AiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-16 10:11         ` Yury Norov
2018-01-16 10:11           ` Yury Norov
2018-01-16 16:05           ` Dave Martin
2018-01-16 16:05             ` Dave Martin
2018-01-15 16:55   ` Dave Martin
2018-01-15 16:55     ` Dave Martin
2018-01-15 16:55     ` Dave Martin

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