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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Maxime Ripard <maxime@cerno.tech>
Cc: Sudip Mukherjee <sudipm.mukherjee@gmail.com>,
	Michael Stapelberg <michael@stapelberg.ch>,
	 Emma Anholt <emma@anholt.net>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	 Felix Kuehling <felix.kuehling@amd.com>,
	Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [git pull] drm for 5.14-rc1
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2021 10:47:43 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wgOvmtRw1TNbMC1rn5YqyTKyn0hz+sc4k0DGNn++u9aYw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210920173255.pp5dyaxqy4x2eo65@gilmour>

On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 10:33 AM Maxime Ripard <maxime@cerno.tech> wrote:
>
> What I was interested in was more about the context itself, and I'd
> still like an answer on whether it's ok to wait for a review for 5
> months though, or if it's an expectation from now on that we are
> supposed to fix bugs over the week-end.

Oh, it's definitely not "over a weekend". These reverts happened on a
Sunday just because that's when I do rc releases, and this was one of
those pending issues that had been around long enough that I went "ok,
I'm reverting now since it's been bisected and verified".

So it happened on a weekend, but that's pretty incidental.

You should not wait for 5 months to send bug-fixes. That's not the
point of review, and review shouldn't hold up reported regressions of
existing code. That's just basic _testing_ - either the fix should be
applied, or - if the fix is too invasive or too ugly - the problematic
source of the regression should be reverted.

Review should be about new code, it shouldn't be holding up "there's a
bug report, here's the obvious fix".

And for something like a NULL pointer dereference, there really should
generally be an "obvious fix".

Of course, a corollary to that "fixes are different from new
development", though, is that bug fixes need to be kept separate from
new code - just so that they _can_ be handled separately and so that
you could have sent Sudip (and Michael, although that was apparently a
very different bug, and the report came in later) a "can you test this
fix" kind of thing.

I don't know what the review issue on the vc4 drm side is, but I
suspect that the vc4 people are just perhaps not as integrated with a
lot of the other core drm people. Or maybe review of new features are
held off because there are bug reports on the old code.

                   Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-20 17:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-01  4:34 [git pull] drm for 5.14-rc1 Dave Airlie
2021-07-01  4:34 ` Dave Airlie
2021-07-01 20:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-07-01 20:15   ` Linus Torvalds
2021-07-01 21:31   ` Felix Kuehling
2021-07-01 21:31     ` Felix Kuehling
2021-09-18  9:18   ` Michael Stapelberg
2021-09-18 10:09     ` Simon Ser
2021-09-18 19:24     ` Linus Torvalds
2021-09-18 20:13       ` Michael Stapelberg
2021-09-18 22:12         ` Linus Torvalds
2021-09-19  7:26           ` Michael Stapelberg
2021-09-18 22:00       ` Sudip Mukherjee
2021-09-18 22:15         ` Linus Torvalds
2021-09-18 22:47           ` Sudip Mukherjee
2021-09-18 23:06             ` Linus Torvalds
2021-09-19 11:05               ` Sudip Mukherjee
2021-09-19 17:19                 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-09-20 12:17                   ` Maxime Ripard
2021-09-20 12:50                     ` Sudip Mukherjee
2021-09-20 17:10                     ` Linus Torvalds
2021-09-20 17:32                       ` Maxime Ripard
2021-09-20 17:47                         ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2021-09-22 11:54                           ` Maxime Ripard
2021-09-20  8:55     ` Maxime Ripard
2021-09-20 12:18       ` Maxime Ripard
2021-07-01 20:24 ` pr-tracker-bot
2021-07-01 20:24   ` pr-tracker-bot

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