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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	 "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Bill Wendling <morbo@google.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	 Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	 Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	 "maintainer:X86 ARCHITECTURE (32-BIT AND 64-BIT)"
	<x86@kernel.org>, Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>,
	Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
	 Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	llvm@lists.linux.dev,  LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	 linux-toolchains <linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5] x86: use builtins to read eflags
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 18:50:46 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wibzB9fSXZf79FhjAvoLsPP0YG4VKjQy0jZE8BZj8uBOg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wjRfJijS5yJsLFzyJS6HFh46q8Eu6EvjGGjJSZ1+m74_Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 6:21 PM Linus Torvalds
<torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
> Now, compare that to just using inline asm: it's trivial, and we've
> used it basically unchanged for three decades.

Ok, so going _really_ far back, we used to have them literally written out:

        __asm__ __volatile__("pushfl ; popl %0 ; cli":"=r" (flags));

in random code, and then in October 1992 switched those nasty things
to instead use

   #define cli() __asm__ __volatile__ ("cli"::)

    #define save_flags(x) \
    __asm__ __volatile__("pushfl ; popl %0":"=r" (x))

and the code was changed to actually use

        save_flags(flags);
        cli();

instead of that open-coded raw asm.

And the "memory" clobber was added early June, 1993:

   #define save_flags(x) \
  -__asm__ __volatile__("pushfl ; popl %0":"=r" (x))
  +__asm__ __volatile__("pushfl ; popl %0":"=r" (x)::"memory")

so that thing really has existed in pretty much that exact form for
almost 30 years.

There's been tweaks since (the "=r" became "=g" before becoming "=rm",
comments have been added, "pushfl" became just "pushf" with x86-64,
and the thing has moved around and is now called "native_save_fl()" in
a completely different header file etc)

But at no point was it ever as buggy as the actual gcc intrinsic seems
to be today, nor have we needed to check for compiler versions etc.

                  Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-18  1:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-15 21:18 [PATCH] x86: use builtins to read eflags Bill Wendling
2021-12-15 22:46 ` Nathan Chancellor
2021-12-15 23:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-12-16 20:00   ` Bill Wendling
2021-12-16 20:07     ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-12-16  0:57 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-16 19:55   ` Bill Wendling
2021-12-17 12:48     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-12-17 19:39     ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-03-14 23:09     ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-03-15  0:08       ` Bill Wendling
2021-12-16 19:58   ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-12-29  2:12 ` [PATCH v2] " Bill Wendling
2022-01-27 20:56   ` Bill Wendling
2022-02-04  0:16   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-02-04  0:58     ` Bill Wendling
2022-02-04  0:57   ` [PATCH v3] " Bill Wendling
2022-02-07 22:11     ` Nick Desaulniers
2022-02-08  9:14       ` David Laight
2022-02-08 23:18         ` Bill Wendling
2022-02-14 23:53         ` Nick Desaulniers
2022-02-10 22:31     ` [PATCH v4] " Bill Wendling
2022-02-11 16:40       ` David Laight
2022-02-11 19:25         ` Bill Wendling
2022-02-11 22:09           ` David Laight
2022-02-11 23:33             ` Bill Wendling
2022-02-12  0:24           ` Nick Desaulniers
2022-02-12  9:23             ` Bill Wendling
2022-02-15  0:33               ` Nick Desaulniers
2022-03-01 20:19       ` [PATCH v5] " Bill Wendling
2022-03-14 23:07         ` Bill Wendling
     [not found]           ` <AC3D873E-A28B-41F1-8BF4-2F6F37BCEEB4@zytor.com>
2022-03-15  7:19             ` Bill Wendling
2022-03-17 15:43               ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-03-17 18:00                 ` Nick Desaulniers
2022-03-17 18:52                   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-17 19:45                     ` Bill Wendling
2022-03-17 20:13                       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-17 21:10                         ` Bill Wendling
2022-03-17 21:21                           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-17 21:45                             ` Bill Wendling
2022-03-17 22:51                               ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-17 23:14                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-17 23:19                                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-03-17 23:31                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-18  0:05                                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-03-17 22:37                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-03-17 20:13                     ` Florian Weimer
2022-03-17 20:36                       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-18  0:25                         ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-03-18  1:21                           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-18  1:50                             ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2022-03-17 21:05                     ` Andrew Cooper
2022-03-17 21:39                       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-18 17:59                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-03-18 18:19                           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-18 21:48                             ` Andrew Cooper
2022-03-18 23:10                               ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-18 23:42                                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-03-19  1:13                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-19 23:15                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-03-18 22:09                             ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-03-18 22:33                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-03-18 22:36                               ` David Laight
2022-03-18 22:47                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-03-18 22:43                             ` David Laight
2022-03-18 23:03                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-03-18 23:04                         ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-03-18 23:52                           ` David Laight

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