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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Oleksandr Natalenko <oleksandr@natalenko.name>
Cc: "Halil Pasic" <pasic@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>,
	"Marek Szyprowski" <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	"Robin Murphy" <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	"Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>,
	"Kalle Valo" <kvalo@kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Olha Cherevyk" <olha.cherevyk@gmail.com>,
	iommu <iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	stable <stable@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [REGRESSION] Recent swiotlb DMA_FROM_DEVICE fixes break ath9k-based AP
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2022 10:27:21 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wiwz+Z2MaP44h086jeniG-OpK3c=FywLsCwXV7Crvadrg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1812355.tdWV9SEqCh@natalenko.name>

On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 12:19 AM Oleksandr Natalenko
<oleksandr@natalenko.name> wrote:
>
> The following upstream commits:
>
> aa6f8dcbab47 swiotlb: rework "fix info leak with DMA_FROM_DEVICE"
> ddbd89deb7d3 swiotlb: fix info leak with DMA_FROM_DEVICE
>
> break ath9k-based Wi-Fi access point for me. The AP emits beacons, but
> no client can connect to it, either from the very beginning, or
> shortly after start. These are the only symptoms I've noticed (i.e.,
> no BUG/WARNING messages in `dmesg` etc).

Funky, but clearly true:

> These commits appeared in v5.17 and v5.16.15, and both kernels are
> broken for me. I'm pretty confident these commits make the difference
> since I've built both v5.17 and v5.16.15 without them, and it fixed
> the issue.

Can you double-check (or just explicitly confirm if you already did
that test) that you need to revert *both* of those commits, and it's
the later "rework" fix that triggers it?

> So, I do understand this might be an issue with regard to SG I/O
> handling in ath9k, hence relevant people in Cc.

Yeah, almost certainly an ath9k bug, but a regression is a regression,
so if people can't find the issue in ath9k, we'll have to revert those
commits.

Honestly, I personally think they were a bit draconian to begin with,
and didn't limit their effects sufficiently.

I'm assuming that the ath9k issue is that it gives DMA mapping a big
enough area to handle any possible packet size, and just expects -
quite reasonably - smaller packets to only fill the part they need.

Which that "info leak" patch obviously breaks entirely.

So my expectation is that this is something we'll just revert, but it
would be really good to have the ath9k people double-check.

                Linus

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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Oleksandr Natalenko <oleksandr@natalenko.name>
Cc: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>,
	Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>, "Kalle Valo" <kvalo@kernel.org>,
	linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	stable <stable@vger.kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Halil Pasic" <pasic@linux.ibm.com>,
	iommu <iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"Olha Cherevyk" <olha.cherevyk@gmail.com>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Robin Murphy" <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [REGRESSION] Recent swiotlb DMA_FROM_DEVICE fixes break ath9k-based AP
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2022 10:27:21 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wiwz+Z2MaP44h086jeniG-OpK3c=FywLsCwXV7Crvadrg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1812355.tdWV9SEqCh@natalenko.name>

On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 12:19 AM Oleksandr Natalenko
<oleksandr@natalenko.name> wrote:
>
> The following upstream commits:
>
> aa6f8dcbab47 swiotlb: rework "fix info leak with DMA_FROM_DEVICE"
> ddbd89deb7d3 swiotlb: fix info leak with DMA_FROM_DEVICE
>
> break ath9k-based Wi-Fi access point for me. The AP emits beacons, but
> no client can connect to it, either from the very beginning, or
> shortly after start. These are the only symptoms I've noticed (i.e.,
> no BUG/WARNING messages in `dmesg` etc).

Funky, but clearly true:

> These commits appeared in v5.17 and v5.16.15, and both kernels are
> broken for me. I'm pretty confident these commits make the difference
> since I've built both v5.17 and v5.16.15 without them, and it fixed
> the issue.

Can you double-check (or just explicitly confirm if you already did
that test) that you need to revert *both* of those commits, and it's
the later "rework" fix that triggers it?

> So, I do understand this might be an issue with regard to SG I/O
> handling in ath9k, hence relevant people in Cc.

Yeah, almost certainly an ath9k bug, but a regression is a regression,
so if people can't find the issue in ath9k, we'll have to revert those
commits.

Honestly, I personally think they were a bit draconian to begin with,
and didn't limit their effects sufficiently.

I'm assuming that the ath9k issue is that it gives DMA mapping a big
enough area to handle any possible packet size, and just expects -
quite reasonably - smaller packets to only fill the part they need.

Which that "info leak" patch obviously breaks entirely.

So my expectation is that this is something we'll just revert, but it
would be really good to have the ath9k people double-check.

                Linus
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Thread overview: 139+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-23  7:19 [REGRESSION] Recent swiotlb DMA_FROM_DEVICE fixes break ath9k-based AP Oleksandr Natalenko
2022-03-23  7:19 ` Oleksandr Natalenko via iommu
2022-03-23  7:28 ` Kalle Valo
2022-03-23  7:28   ` Kalle Valo
2022-03-23 17:27 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2022-03-23 17:27   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-23 19:06   ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-23 19:06     ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-23 19:16     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-23 19:16       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-23 20:54       ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-23 20:54         ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-24  5:57         ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-24  5:57           ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-24 10:25           ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2022-03-24 10:25             ` Oleksandr Natalenko via iommu
2022-03-24 11:05             ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-24 11:05               ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-24 14:27               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-03-24 14:27                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen via iommu
2022-03-24 16:29                 ` Maxime Bizon
2022-03-24 16:29                   ` Maxime Bizon
2022-03-24 16:31                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-24 16:31                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-24 16:52                     ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-24 16:52                       ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-24 17:07                       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-03-24 17:07                         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen via iommu
2022-03-24 19:26                         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-24 19:26                           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-24 21:14                           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-03-24 21:14                             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen via iommu
2022-03-25 10:25                           ` Maxime Bizon
2022-03-25 10:25                             ` Maxime Bizon
2022-03-25 11:27                             ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-25 11:27                               ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-25 23:38                               ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-25 23:38                                 ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-26 16:05                                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-03-26 16:05                                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen via iommu
2022-03-26 18:38                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-26 18:38                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-26 22:38                                     ` David Laight
2022-03-26 22:38                                       ` David Laight
2022-03-26 22:41                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-26 22:41                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-25 16:25                             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-03-25 16:25                               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen via iommu
2022-03-25 16:45                               ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-25 16:45                                 ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-25 18:13                                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen via iommu
2022-03-25 18:13                                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-03-25 18:30                             ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-25 18:30                               ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-25 19:14                               ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-25 19:14                                 ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-25 19:21                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-25 19:21                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-25 19:26                               ` Oleksandr Natalenko via iommu
2022-03-25 19:26                                 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2022-03-25 19:27                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-25 19:27                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-25 19:35                                   ` Oleksandr Natalenko via iommu
2022-03-25 19:35                                     ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2022-03-25 20:37                               ` Johannes Berg
2022-03-25 20:37                                 ` Johannes Berg
2022-03-25 20:47                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-25 20:47                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-25 21:13                                   ` Johannes Berg
2022-03-25 21:13                                     ` Johannes Berg
2022-03-25 21:40                                     ` David Laight
2022-03-25 21:40                                       ` David Laight
2022-03-25 21:56                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-25 21:56                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-25 22:41                                       ` David Laight
2022-03-25 22:41                                         ` David Laight
2022-03-27  3:15                                     ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-27  3:15                                       ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-28  9:48                                       ` Johannes Berg
2022-03-28  9:48                                         ` Johannes Berg
2022-03-28  9:50                                         ` Johannes Berg
2022-03-28  9:50                                           ` Johannes Berg
2022-03-28  9:57                                           ` Johannes Berg
2022-03-28  9:57                                             ` Johannes Berg
2022-03-27  3:48                           ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-27  3:48                             ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-27  5:06                             ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-27  5:06                               ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-27  5:21                               ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-27  5:21                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-27 15:24                                 ` David Laight
2022-03-27 15:24                                   ` David Laight
2022-03-27 19:23                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-27 19:23                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-27 20:04                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-27 20:04                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-27 23:52                                 ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-27 23:52                                   ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-28  0:30                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-28  0:30                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-28 12:02                                     ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-28 12:02                                       ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-27 23:37                               ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-27 23:37                                 ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-28  0:37                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-28  0:37                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-25  7:12                         ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2022-03-25  7:12                           ` Oleksandr Natalenko via iommu
2022-03-25  9:21                           ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2022-03-25  9:21                             ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2022-03-24 18:31                       ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-24 18:31                         ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-25 16:31                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-25 16:31                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-24 18:02         ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-24 18:02           ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-25 15:25           ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-25 15:25             ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-25 16:23             ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-25 16:23               ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-25 16:32           ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-25 16:32             ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-25 18:15             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen via iommu
2022-03-25 18:15               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-03-25 18:42               ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-25 18:42                 ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-25 18:46                 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-25 18:46                   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-28  6:37                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-28  6:37                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-28  8:15                     ` David Laight
2022-03-28  8:15                       ` David Laight
2022-03-30 12:11                     ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-30 12:11                       ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-24  8:55   ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2022-03-24  8:55     ` Oleksandr Natalenko via iommu
2022-03-24 12:32 ` [REGRESSION] Recent swiotlb DMA_FROM_DEVICE fixes break ath9k-based AP #forregzbot Thorsten Leemhuis
2022-03-25  9:24   ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2022-03-27  9:00     ` Thorsten Leemhuis

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