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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Android Kernel Team <kernel-team@android.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] mm: proc: Avoid fullmm flush for young/dirty bit toggling
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 09:41:54 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wjKjnT=yNnRgfPRknOBYF4oJHixbT10wDqXpjQ1qiW7SA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201120143557.6715-7-will@kernel.org>

On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 6:36 AM Will Deacon <will@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> Ensure that TLB invalidation is performed after updating soft-dirty
> entries via clear_refs_write() by using the non-fullmm API to MMU gather.

This code sequence looks bogus to begin with.

It does that

                tlb_gather_mmu(&tlb, mm, 0, -1);
     ..
                tlb_finish_mmu(&tlb, 0, -1);

around the loop (all, your patch series changes those arguments), but
it doesn't actually use "tlb" anywhere inside the loop itself that I
can see.

Yeah., yeah, it sets the flush_pending thing etc, but that still
sounds fundamentally wrong. It should do the proper range adjustments
if/when it actually wals the range. No?

If I read this all right, it will do a full TLB flush even when it
doesn't do anything (eg CLEAR_REFS_SOFT_DIRTY with no softdirty
pages).

So this looks all kinds of bogus. Not your patch, but the code it patches.

               Linus

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>,
	Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	Android Kernel Team <kernel-team@android.com>,
	Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] mm: proc: Avoid fullmm flush for young/dirty bit toggling
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 09:41:54 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wjKjnT=yNnRgfPRknOBYF4oJHixbT10wDqXpjQ1qiW7SA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201120143557.6715-7-will@kernel.org>

On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 6:36 AM Will Deacon <will@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> Ensure that TLB invalidation is performed after updating soft-dirty
> entries via clear_refs_write() by using the non-fullmm API to MMU gather.

This code sequence looks bogus to begin with.

It does that

                tlb_gather_mmu(&tlb, mm, 0, -1);
     ..
                tlb_finish_mmu(&tlb, 0, -1);

around the loop (all, your patch series changes those arguments), but
it doesn't actually use "tlb" anywhere inside the loop itself that I
can see.

Yeah., yeah, it sets the flush_pending thing etc, but that still
sounds fundamentally wrong. It should do the proper range adjustments
if/when it actually wals the range. No?

If I read this all right, it will do a full TLB flush even when it
doesn't do anything (eg CLEAR_REFS_SOFT_DIRTY with no softdirty
pages).

So this looks all kinds of bogus. Not your patch, but the code it patches.

               Linus

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-20 17:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-20 14:35 [PATCH 0/6] tlb: Fix access and (soft-)dirty bit management Will Deacon
2020-11-20 14:35 ` Will Deacon
2020-11-20 14:35 ` [PATCH 1/6] arm64: pgtable: Fix pte_accessible() Will Deacon
2020-11-20 14:35   ` Will Deacon
2020-11-20 16:03   ` Minchan Kim
2020-11-20 16:03     ` Minchan Kim
2020-11-20 19:53   ` Yu Zhao
2020-11-20 19:53     ` Yu Zhao
2020-11-23 13:27   ` Catalin Marinas
2020-11-23 13:27     ` Catalin Marinas
2020-11-24 10:02   ` Anshuman Khandual
2020-11-24 10:02     ` Anshuman Khandual
2020-11-20 14:35 ` [PATCH 2/6] arm64: pgtable: Ensure dirty bit is preserved across pte_wrprotect() Will Deacon
2020-11-20 14:35   ` Will Deacon
2020-11-20 17:09   ` Minchan Kim
2020-11-20 17:09     ` Minchan Kim
2020-11-23 14:31     ` Catalin Marinas
2020-11-23 14:31       ` Catalin Marinas
2020-11-23 14:22   ` Catalin Marinas
2020-11-23 14:22     ` Catalin Marinas
2020-11-20 14:35 ` [PATCH 3/6] tlb: mmu_gather: Remove unused start/end arguments from tlb_finish_mmu() Will Deacon
2020-11-20 14:35   ` Will Deacon
2020-11-20 17:20   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-11-20 17:20     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-11-20 17:20     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-11-23 16:48     ` Will Deacon
2020-11-23 16:48       ` Will Deacon
2020-11-20 14:35 ` [PATCH 4/6] mm: proc: Invalidate TLB after clearing soft-dirty page state Will Deacon
2020-11-20 14:35   ` Will Deacon
2020-11-20 15:00   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-20 15:00     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-20 15:09     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-20 15:09       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-20 15:15     ` Will Deacon
2020-11-20 15:15       ` Will Deacon
2020-11-20 15:27       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-20 15:27         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-23 18:23         ` Will Deacon
2020-11-23 18:23           ` Will Deacon
2020-11-20 15:55     ` Minchan Kim
2020-11-20 15:55       ` Minchan Kim
2020-11-23 18:41       ` Will Deacon
2020-11-23 18:41         ` Will Deacon
2020-11-25 22:51         ` Minchan Kim
2020-11-25 22:51           ` Minchan Kim
2020-11-20 20:22   ` Yu Zhao
2020-11-20 20:22     ` Yu Zhao
2020-11-21  2:49     ` Yu Zhao
2020-11-21  2:49       ` Yu Zhao
2020-11-23 19:21       ` Yu Zhao
2020-11-23 19:21         ` Yu Zhao
2020-11-23 22:04       ` Will Deacon
2020-11-23 22:04         ` Will Deacon
2020-11-20 14:35 ` [PATCH 5/6] tlb: mmu_gather: Introduce tlb_gather_mmu_fullmm() Will Deacon
2020-11-20 14:35   ` Will Deacon
2020-11-20 17:22   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-11-20 17:22     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-11-20 17:22     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-11-20 17:31     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-11-20 17:31       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-11-20 17:31       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-11-23 16:48       ` Will Deacon
2020-11-23 16:48         ` Will Deacon
2021-02-01 11:32       ` [tip: core/mm] tlb: mmu_gather: Remove start/end arguments from tlb_gather_mmu() tip-bot2 for Will Deacon
2020-11-22 15:11   ` [tlb] e242a269fa: WARNING:at_mm/mmu_gather.c:#tlb_gather_mmu kernel test robot
2020-11-23 17:51     ` Will Deacon
2020-11-23 17:51       ` Will Deacon
2020-11-20 14:35 ` [PATCH 6/6] mm: proc: Avoid fullmm flush for young/dirty bit toggling Will Deacon
2020-11-20 14:35   ` Will Deacon
2020-11-20 17:41   ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2020-11-20 17:41     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-11-20 17:41     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-11-20 17:45     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-11-20 17:45       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-11-20 17:45       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-11-20 20:40   ` Yu Zhao
2020-11-20 20:40     ` Yu Zhao
2020-11-23 18:35     ` Will Deacon
2020-11-23 18:35       ` Will Deacon
2020-11-23 20:04       ` Yu Zhao
2020-11-23 20:04         ` Yu Zhao
2020-11-23 21:17         ` Will Deacon
2020-11-23 21:17           ` Will Deacon
2020-11-24  1:13           ` Yu Zhao
2020-11-24  1:13             ` Yu Zhao
2020-11-24 14:31             ` Will Deacon
2020-11-24 14:31               ` Will Deacon
2020-11-25 22:01             ` Minchan Kim
2020-11-25 22:01               ` Minchan Kim
2020-11-24 14:46     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-24 14:46       ` Peter Zijlstra

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