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From: Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>
To: Zev Weiss <zev@bewilderbeest.net>
Cc: "OpenBMC Maillist" <openbmc@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Jeremy Kerr" <jk@codeconstruct.com.au>,
	"Joel Stanley" <joel@jms.id.au>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	devicetree <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Andrew Jeffery" <andrew@aj.id.au>,
	"Frank Rowand" <frowand.list@gmail.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	"Andy Shevchenko" <andy@kernel.org>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Francis Laniel" <laniel_francis@privacyrequired.com>,
	"Kees Cook" <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"Andrey Konovalov" <andreyknvl@gmail.com>,
	"Jonathan Cameron" <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>,
	"Daniel Axtens" <dja@axtens.net>,
	"Alexey Dobriyan" <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	"Dan Williams" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	"Krzysztof Wilczyński" <kw@linux.com>,
	"Heiner Kallweit" <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	"Nick Desaulniers" <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm Mailing List" <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"moderated list:ARM/ASPEED MACHINE SUPPORT"
	<linux-aspeed@lists.ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9] Dynamic DT device nodes
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 10:04:41 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHp75VdYBB_FaMr-uKswdvDBdobTYZkiE6ncoALuG+YYVoMwyw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211007000954.30621-1-zev@bewilderbeest.net>

On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 3:10 AM Zev Weiss <zev@bewilderbeest.net> wrote:
> This patch series is in some ways kind of a v2 for the "Dynamic
> aspeed-smc flash chips via 'reserved' DT status" series I posted
> previously [0], but takes a fairly different approach suggested by Rob
> Herring [1] and doesn't actually touch the aspeed-smc driver or
> anything in the MTD subsystem, so I haven't marked it as such.
>
> To recap a bit of the context from that series, in OpenBMC there's a
> need for certain devices (described by device-tree nodes) to be able
> to be attached and detached at runtime (for example the SPI flash for
> the host's firmware, which is shared between the BMC and the host but
> can only be accessed by one or the other at a time).

This seems quite dangerous. Why do you need that? Why can't device
tree overlays be used?

> To provide that
> ability, this series adds support for a new common device-tree
> property, a boolean "dynamic" that indicates that the device may come
> and go at runtime.  When present on a node, the sysfs file for that
> node's "status" property is made writable, allowing userspace to do
> things like:
>
>   $ echo okay > /sys/firmware/devicetree/.../status
>   $ echo reserved > /sys/firmware/devicetree/.../status
>
> to activate and deactivate a dynamic device.
>
> Because it leans on the OF_DYNAMIC machinery internally, this
> functionality will only work on busses that register for OF reconfig
> notifications and handle them appropriately (presently platform, i2c,
> and spi).  This series does not attempt to solve the "dynamic devices
> further down the tree" problem [2]; my hope is that handling for OF
> reconfig notifications can be extended to other families of devices
> (e.g. individual MTD spi-nor flash chips) in the future.

What about ACPI and software nodes?
How will all this affect the host?

> [0] https://lore.kernel.org/openbmc/20210929115409.21254-1-zev@bewilderbeest.net/
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/openbmc/CAL_JsqJH+b5oFuSP+KBLBsN5QTA6xASuqXJWXUaDkHhugXPpnQ@mail.gmail.com/
> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/openbmc/20210929220038.GS17315@packtop/
> [3] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/robh/linux.git/commit/?id=6663ae07d995f5fbe2988a19858b2f87e68cf929


-- 
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>
To: Zev Weiss <zev@bewilderbeest.net>
Cc: "Krzysztof Wilczyński" <kw@linux.com>,
	"moderated list:ARM/ASPEED MACHINE SUPPORT"
	<linux-aspeed@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	"Jeremy Kerr" <jk@codeconstruct.com.au>,
	"Francis Laniel" <laniel_francis@privacyrequired.com>,
	"Frank Rowand" <frowand.list@gmail.com>,
	"OpenBMC Maillist" <openbmc@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	"Andrey Konovalov" <andreyknvl@gmail.com>,
	"Alexey Dobriyan" <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	devicetree <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Kees Cook" <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Jonathan Cameron" <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>,
	"Dan Williams" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"linux-arm Mailing List" <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"Daniel Axtens" <dja@axtens.net>,
	"Andy Shevchenko" <andy@kernel.org>,
	"Andrew Jeffery" <andrew@aj.id.au>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Nick Desaulniers" <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Heiner Kallweit" <hkallweit1@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9] Dynamic DT device nodes
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 10:04:41 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHp75VdYBB_FaMr-uKswdvDBdobTYZkiE6ncoALuG+YYVoMwyw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211007000954.30621-1-zev@bewilderbeest.net>

On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 3:10 AM Zev Weiss <zev@bewilderbeest.net> wrote:
> This patch series is in some ways kind of a v2 for the "Dynamic
> aspeed-smc flash chips via 'reserved' DT status" series I posted
> previously [0], but takes a fairly different approach suggested by Rob
> Herring [1] and doesn't actually touch the aspeed-smc driver or
> anything in the MTD subsystem, so I haven't marked it as such.
>
> To recap a bit of the context from that series, in OpenBMC there's a
> need for certain devices (described by device-tree nodes) to be able
> to be attached and detached at runtime (for example the SPI flash for
> the host's firmware, which is shared between the BMC and the host but
> can only be accessed by one or the other at a time).

This seems quite dangerous. Why do you need that? Why can't device
tree overlays be used?

> To provide that
> ability, this series adds support for a new common device-tree
> property, a boolean "dynamic" that indicates that the device may come
> and go at runtime.  When present on a node, the sysfs file for that
> node's "status" property is made writable, allowing userspace to do
> things like:
>
>   $ echo okay > /sys/firmware/devicetree/.../status
>   $ echo reserved > /sys/firmware/devicetree/.../status
>
> to activate and deactivate a dynamic device.
>
> Because it leans on the OF_DYNAMIC machinery internally, this
> functionality will only work on busses that register for OF reconfig
> notifications and handle them appropriately (presently platform, i2c,
> and spi).  This series does not attempt to solve the "dynamic devices
> further down the tree" problem [2]; my hope is that handling for OF
> reconfig notifications can be extended to other families of devices
> (e.g. individual MTD spi-nor flash chips) in the future.

What about ACPI and software nodes?
How will all this affect the host?

> [0] https://lore.kernel.org/openbmc/20210929115409.21254-1-zev@bewilderbeest.net/
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/openbmc/CAL_JsqJH+b5oFuSP+KBLBsN5QTA6xASuqXJWXUaDkHhugXPpnQ@mail.gmail.com/
> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/openbmc/20210929220038.GS17315@packtop/
> [3] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/robh/linux.git/commit/?id=6663ae07d995f5fbe2988a19858b2f87e68cf929


-- 
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>
To: Zev Weiss <zev@bewilderbeest.net>
Cc: "OpenBMC Maillist" <openbmc@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Jeremy Kerr" <jk@codeconstruct.com.au>,
	"Joel Stanley" <joel@jms.id.au>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	devicetree <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Andrew Jeffery" <andrew@aj.id.au>,
	"Frank Rowand" <frowand.list@gmail.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	"Andy Shevchenko" <andy@kernel.org>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Francis Laniel" <laniel_francis@privacyrequired.com>,
	"Kees Cook" <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"Andrey Konovalov" <andreyknvl@gmail.com>,
	"Jonathan Cameron" <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>,
	"Daniel Axtens" <dja@axtens.net>,
	"Alexey Dobriyan" <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	"Dan Williams" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	"Krzysztof Wilczyński" <kw@linux.com>,
	"Heiner Kallweit" <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	"Nick Desaulniers" <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm Mailing List" <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"moderated list:ARM/ASPEED MACHINE SUPPORT"
	<linux-aspeed@lists.ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9] Dynamic DT device nodes
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 10:04:41 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHp75VdYBB_FaMr-uKswdvDBdobTYZkiE6ncoALuG+YYVoMwyw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211007000954.30621-1-zev@bewilderbeest.net>

On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 3:10 AM Zev Weiss <zev@bewilderbeest.net> wrote:
> This patch series is in some ways kind of a v2 for the "Dynamic
> aspeed-smc flash chips via 'reserved' DT status" series I posted
> previously [0], but takes a fairly different approach suggested by Rob
> Herring [1] and doesn't actually touch the aspeed-smc driver or
> anything in the MTD subsystem, so I haven't marked it as such.
>
> To recap a bit of the context from that series, in OpenBMC there's a
> need for certain devices (described by device-tree nodes) to be able
> to be attached and detached at runtime (for example the SPI flash for
> the host's firmware, which is shared between the BMC and the host but
> can only be accessed by one or the other at a time).

This seems quite dangerous. Why do you need that? Why can't device
tree overlays be used?

> To provide that
> ability, this series adds support for a new common device-tree
> property, a boolean "dynamic" that indicates that the device may come
> and go at runtime.  When present on a node, the sysfs file for that
> node's "status" property is made writable, allowing userspace to do
> things like:
>
>   $ echo okay > /sys/firmware/devicetree/.../status
>   $ echo reserved > /sys/firmware/devicetree/.../status
>
> to activate and deactivate a dynamic device.
>
> Because it leans on the OF_DYNAMIC machinery internally, this
> functionality will only work on busses that register for OF reconfig
> notifications and handle them appropriately (presently platform, i2c,
> and spi).  This series does not attempt to solve the "dynamic devices
> further down the tree" problem [2]; my hope is that handling for OF
> reconfig notifications can be extended to other families of devices
> (e.g. individual MTD spi-nor flash chips) in the future.

What about ACPI and software nodes?
How will all this affect the host?

> [0] https://lore.kernel.org/openbmc/20210929115409.21254-1-zev@bewilderbeest.net/
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/openbmc/CAL_JsqJH+b5oFuSP+KBLBsN5QTA6xASuqXJWXUaDkHhugXPpnQ@mail.gmail.com/
> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/openbmc/20210929220038.GS17315@packtop/
> [3] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/robh/linux.git/commit/?id=6663ae07d995f5fbe2988a19858b2f87e68cf929


-- 
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko

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Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-07  0:09 [PATCH 0/9] Dynamic DT device nodes Zev Weiss
2021-10-07  0:09 ` Zev Weiss
2021-10-07  0:09 ` Zev Weiss
2021-10-07  0:09 ` [PATCH 1/9] sysfs: add sysfs_remove_bin_file_self() function Zev Weiss
2021-10-07  0:09   ` Zev Weiss
2021-10-07  5:23   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-10-07  5:23     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-10-07  5:58     ` Zev Weiss
2021-10-07  5:58       ` Zev Weiss
2021-10-07  6:12       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-10-07  6:12         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-10-07  6:55         ` Zev Weiss
2021-10-07  6:55           ` Zev Weiss
2021-10-07  0:09 ` [PATCH 2/9] sysfs: add growable flag to struct bin_attribute Zev Weiss
2021-10-07  0:09   ` Zev Weiss
2021-10-07  0:09 ` [PATCH 3/9] lib/string: add sysfs_buf_streq() Zev Weiss
2021-10-07  0:09   ` Zev Weiss
2021-10-07  0:09 ` [PATCH 4/9] of: add self parameter to __of_sysfs_remove_bin_file() Zev Weiss
2021-10-07  0:09   ` Zev Weiss
2021-10-07  5:25   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-10-07  5:25     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-10-07  0:09 ` [PATCH 5/9] of: add self parameter to of_update_property() Zev Weiss
2021-10-07  0:09   ` Zev Weiss
2021-10-07  5:26   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-10-07  5:26     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-10-07  0:09 ` [PATCH 6/9] of: add support for 'dynamic' DT property Zev Weiss
2021-10-07  0:09   ` Zev Weiss
2021-10-08 18:51   ` Frank Rowand
2021-10-08 18:51     ` Frank Rowand
2021-10-08 19:19     ` Frank Rowand
2021-10-08 19:19       ` Frank Rowand
2021-10-11 13:58     ` Frank Rowand
2021-10-11 13:58       ` Frank Rowand
2021-10-11 14:46       ` Frank Rowand
2021-10-11 14:46         ` Frank Rowand
2021-10-11 17:35       ` Zev Weiss
2021-10-11 17:35         ` Zev Weiss
2021-10-07  0:09 ` [PATCH 7/9] of: make OF_DYNAMIC selectable independently of OF_UNITTEST Zev Weiss
2021-10-07  0:09   ` Zev Weiss
2021-10-08 19:01   ` Frank Rowand
2021-10-08 19:01     ` Frank Rowand
2021-10-07  0:09 ` [PATCH 8/9] dt-bindings: document new 'dynamic' common property Zev Weiss
2021-10-07  0:09   ` Zev Weiss
2021-10-07  5:26   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-10-07  5:26     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-10-07  6:03     ` Zev Weiss
2021-10-07  6:03       ` Zev Weiss
2021-10-07  0:09 ` [PATCH 9/9] ARM: dts: aspeed: Add e3c246d4i BIOS flash device Zev Weiss
2021-10-07  0:09   ` Zev Weiss
2021-10-07  0:09   ` Zev Weiss
2021-10-07  2:46 ` [PATCH 0/9] Dynamic DT device nodes Florian Fainelli
2021-10-07  2:46   ` Florian Fainelli
2021-10-07  2:46   ` Florian Fainelli
2021-10-07  5:44   ` Zev Weiss
2021-10-07  5:44     ` Zev Weiss
2021-10-07  5:44     ` Zev Weiss
2021-10-07  7:04 ` Andy Shevchenko [this message]
2021-10-07  7:04   ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-10-07  7:04   ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-10-07  9:05   ` Zev Weiss
2021-10-07  9:05     ` Zev Weiss
2021-10-07  9:05     ` Zev Weiss
2021-10-07 10:31     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-10-07 10:31       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-10-07 10:31       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-10-07 15:41       ` Zev Weiss
2021-10-07 15:41         ` Zev Weiss
2021-10-07 15:41         ` Zev Weiss
2021-10-07 20:03         ` Rob Herring
2021-10-07 20:03           ` Rob Herring
2021-10-07 20:03           ` Rob Herring
2021-10-08  5:41           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-10-08  5:41             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-10-08  5:41             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-10-08 19:43           ` Frank Rowand
2021-10-08 19:43             ` Frank Rowand
2021-10-08 19:43             ` Frank Rowand

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