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From: "J, KEERTHY" <j-keerthy@ti.com>
To: Kevin Hilman <khilman@ti.com>
Cc: Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>,
	linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	rjw@sisk.pl, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, j-pihet@ti.com,
	durgadoss.r@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 00/10] PM: Create the AVS(Adaptive Voltage Scaling)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 10:34:29 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJ6a13ZBwZn20ObD2hy=xna8oFoKtdczYNxyWACJZoJkhKhsUQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wr4wriq3.fsf@ti.com>

On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 3:21 AM, Kevin Hilman <khilman@ti.com> wrote:
> Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> writes:
>
>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 02:01:17PM -0700, Kevin Hilman wrote:
>>> Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> writes:
>>
>>> > But presumably these things should integrate somehow - for example,
>>> > should devfreq and cpufreq be providing inputs into what AVS is doing,
>>> > and if so how?
>>
>>> The way it is currently designed, cpufreq/devfreq/regulator layers don't
>>> need to know about AVS.
>>
>> Yes, and that was a part of my concern, but see below.
>>
>>> The higher-level layers only know about the "nominal" voltage.  AVS
>>> hardware does automatic, adaptive, micro-adjustments around that nominal
>>> voltage, and these micro-adjustments are managed by the AVS hardware
>>> sending commands to the PMIC.  (specifically, on OMAP, the AVS sensors
>>> provide inputs to the voltage processor (VP) which provide inputs to the
>>> voltage controller (VC) which sends commands to the PMIC[1].)
>>
>> Right, that's what I'd understood it to be.
>>
>>> The driver proposed here is primarily for initializing the various
>>> parameters/sensitivity/etc. of the AVS hardware, but the actual voltage
>>> adjustments are done in hardware by VC/VP.
>>
>> It's not just a driver, though - it's also creating this power/avs
>> thing, though now I look at the code rather than just its shape there's
>> not actually an abstraction being added here, it's mostly just straight
>> code motion of the arch/arm code that's there already.  The changelog
>> and the shape of the code make it sound like this is intended to be
>> somewhat generic when really it's providing some OMAP specific tuning
>> for the device which is much less of a concern.
>>
>> I guess for now it's probably OK to just clarify in the documentation
>> and say that whoever adds the second driver has to work on making this
>> generic :)
>
> Agreed.
>
> In a different thread (which I can't seem to find now) we discussed this
> as well, so it just sounds like the changelog should clarify this a bit
> better.

Kevin/Mark,

Thanks for the feedback. I will add more documentation
to clarify this aspect. Please let me know if there are any more
things to be taken care of in this patch set.

>
> Kevin
>
>> This does also sound rather like it's in a similar area to the current
>> management work which Durgadoss R (CCed) was working on, though with a
>> slightly different application and in the OMAP case it's pretty much all
>> hidden in the external processor.
>



-- 
Regards and Thanks,
Keerthy

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From: "J, KEERTHY" <j-keerthy@ti.com>
To: Kevin Hilman <khilman@ti.com>
Cc: Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>,
	linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	rjw@sisk.pl, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, j-pihet@ti.com,
	durgadoss.r@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 00/10] PM: Create the AVS(Adaptive Voltage Scaling)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 10:34:29 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJ6a13ZBwZn20ObD2hy=xna8oFoKtdczYNxyWACJZoJkhKhsUQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wr4wriq3.fsf@ti.com>

On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 3:21 AM, Kevin Hilman <khilman@ti.com> wrote:
> Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> writes:
>
>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 02:01:17PM -0700, Kevin Hilman wrote:
>>> Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> writes:
>>
>>> > But presumably these things should integrate somehow - for example,
>>> > should devfreq and cpufreq be providing inputs into what AVS is doing,
>>> > and if so how?
>>
>>> The way it is currently designed, cpufreq/devfreq/regulator layers don't
>>> need to know about AVS.
>>
>> Yes, and that was a part of my concern, but see below.
>>
>>> The higher-level layers only know about the "nominal" voltage.  AVS
>>> hardware does automatic, adaptive, micro-adjustments around that nominal
>>> voltage, and these micro-adjustments are managed by the AVS hardware
>>> sending commands to the PMIC.  (specifically, on OMAP, the AVS sensors
>>> provide inputs to the voltage processor (VP) which provide inputs to the
>>> voltage controller (VC) which sends commands to the PMIC[1].)
>>
>> Right, that's what I'd understood it to be.
>>
>>> The driver proposed here is primarily for initializing the various
>>> parameters/sensitivity/etc. of the AVS hardware, but the actual voltage
>>> adjustments are done in hardware by VC/VP.
>>
>> It's not just a driver, though - it's also creating this power/avs
>> thing, though now I look at the code rather than just its shape there's
>> not actually an abstraction being added here, it's mostly just straight
>> code motion of the arch/arm code that's there already.  The changelog
>> and the shape of the code make it sound like this is intended to be
>> somewhat generic when really it's providing some OMAP specific tuning
>> for the device which is much less of a concern.
>>
>> I guess for now it's probably OK to just clarify in the documentation
>> and say that whoever adds the second driver has to work on making this
>> generic :)
>
> Agreed.
>
> In a different thread (which I can't seem to find now) we discussed this
> as well, so it just sounds like the changelog should clarify this a bit
> better.

Kevin/Mark,

Thanks for the feedback. I will add more documentation
to clarify this aspect. Please let me know if there are any more
things to be taken care of in this patch set.

>
> Kevin
>
>> This does also sound rather like it's in a similar area to the current
>> management work which Durgadoss R (CCed) was working on, though with a
>> slightly different application and in the OMAP case it's pretty much all
>> hidden in the external processor.
>



-- 
Regards and Thanks,
Keerthy
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From: j-keerthy@ti.com (J, KEERTHY)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH V3 00/10] PM: Create the AVS(Adaptive Voltage Scaling)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 10:34:29 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJ6a13ZBwZn20ObD2hy=xna8oFoKtdczYNxyWACJZoJkhKhsUQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wr4wriq3.fsf@ti.com>

On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 3:21 AM, Kevin Hilman <khilman@ti.com> wrote:
> Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> writes:
>
>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 02:01:17PM -0700, Kevin Hilman wrote:
>>> Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> writes:
>>
>>> > But presumably these things should integrate somehow - for example,
>>> > should devfreq and cpufreq be providing inputs into what AVS is doing,
>>> > and if so how?
>>
>>> The way it is currently designed, cpufreq/devfreq/regulator layers don't
>>> need to know about AVS.
>>
>> Yes, and that was a part of my concern, but see below.
>>
>>> The higher-level layers only know about the "nominal" voltage. ?AVS
>>> hardware does automatic, adaptive, micro-adjustments around that nominal
>>> voltage, and these micro-adjustments are managed by the AVS hardware
>>> sending commands to the PMIC. ?(specifically, on OMAP, the AVS sensors
>>> provide inputs to the voltage processor (VP) which provide inputs to the
>>> voltage controller (VC) which sends commands to the PMIC[1].)
>>
>> Right, that's what I'd understood it to be.
>>
>>> The driver proposed here is primarily for initializing the various
>>> parameters/sensitivity/etc. of the AVS hardware, but the actual voltage
>>> adjustments are done in hardware by VC/VP.
>>
>> It's not just a driver, though - it's also creating this power/avs
>> thing, though now I look at the code rather than just its shape there's
>> not actually an abstraction being added here, it's mostly just straight
>> code motion of the arch/arm code that's there already. ?The changelog
>> and the shape of the code make it sound like this is intended to be
>> somewhat generic when really it's providing some OMAP specific tuning
>> for the device which is much less of a concern.
>>
>> I guess for now it's probably OK to just clarify in the documentation
>> and say that whoever adds the second driver has to work on making this
>> generic :)
>
> Agreed.
>
> In a different thread (which I can't seem to find now) we discussed this
> as well, so it just sounds like the changelog should clarify this a bit
> better.

Kevin/Mark,

Thanks for the feedback. I will add more documentation
to clarify this aspect. Please let me know if there are any more
things to be taken care of in this patch set.

>
> Kevin
>
>> This does also sound rather like it's in a similar area to the current
>> management work which Durgadoss R (CCed) was working on, though with a
>> slightly different application and in the OMAP case it's pretty much all
>> hidden in the external processor.
>



-- 
Regards and Thanks,
Keerthy

  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-02  5:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 144+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-26 17:40 [PATCH V3 00/10] PM: Create the AVS(Adaptive Voltage Scaling) Keerthy
2012-04-26 17:40 ` Keerthy
2012-04-26 17:40 ` Keerthy
2012-04-26 17:40 ` [PATCH V3 01/10] ARM: OMAP2+: SmartReflex: move the smartreflex header to include/linux/power Keerthy
2012-04-26 17:40   ` Keerthy
2012-04-26 17:40   ` Keerthy
2012-04-26 17:40 ` [PATCH V3 02/10] ARM: OMAP3+: SmartReflex: class drivers should use struct omap_sr * Keerthy
2012-04-26 17:40   ` Keerthy
2012-04-26 17:40   ` Keerthy
2012-04-26 17:40 ` [PATCH V3 03/10] ARM: OMAP2+: smartreflex: Use the names from hwmod data instead of voltage domains Keerthy
2012-04-26 17:40   ` Keerthy
2012-04-26 17:40   ` Keerthy
2012-04-26 17:40 ` [PATCH V3 04/10] ARM: OMAP3: hwmod: rename the smartreflex entries Keerthy
2012-04-26 17:40   ` Keerthy
2012-04-26 17:40   ` Keerthy
2012-05-04  8:30   ` AnilKumar, Chimata
2012-05-04  8:30     ` AnilKumar, Chimata
2012-05-04  8:30     ` AnilKumar, Chimata
2012-05-04 10:11     ` J, KEERTHY
2012-05-04 10:11       ` J, KEERTHY
2012-05-04 10:11       ` J, KEERTHY
2012-05-07 23:39       ` Kevin Hilman
2012-05-07 23:39         ` Kevin Hilman
2012-05-07 23:39         ` Kevin Hilman
2012-05-07 23:55         ` Kevin Hilman
2012-05-07 23:55           ` Kevin Hilman
2012-05-07 23:55           ` Kevin Hilman
2012-05-08  3:44           ` J, KEERTHY
2012-05-08  3:44             ` J, KEERTHY
2012-05-08  3:44             ` J, KEERTHY
2012-04-26 17:40 ` [PATCH V3 05/10] ARM: OMAP2+: SmartReflex: introduce a busy loop condition test macro Keerthy
2012-04-26 17:40   ` Keerthy
2012-04-26 17:40   ` Keerthy
2012-05-04  9:12   ` AnilKumar, Chimata
2012-05-04  9:12     ` AnilKumar, Chimata
2012-05-04  9:12     ` AnilKumar, Chimata
2012-05-07  5:21     ` J, KEERTHY
2012-05-07  5:21       ` J, KEERTHY
2012-05-07  5:21       ` J, KEERTHY
2012-05-08 10:17       ` AnilKumar, Chimata
2012-05-08 10:17         ` AnilKumar, Chimata
2012-05-08 10:17         ` AnilKumar, Chimata
2012-05-10  6:19         ` J, KEERTHY
2012-05-10  6:19           ` J, KEERTHY
2012-05-10  6:19           ` J, KEERTHY
2012-04-26 17:40 ` [PATCH V3 06/10] ARM: OMAP2+: Voltage: Move the omap_volt_data structure to plat Keerthy
2012-04-26 17:40   ` Keerthy
2012-04-26 17:40   ` Keerthy
2012-04-26 17:40 ` [PATCH V3 07/10] ARM: OMAP2+: SmartReflex: Use per-OPP data structure Keerthy
2012-04-26 17:40   ` Keerthy
2012-04-26 17:40   ` Keerthy
2012-05-10 19:11   ` Guyotte, Greg
2012-05-10 19:11     ` Guyotte, Greg
2012-05-10 19:11     ` Guyotte, Greg
2012-05-11  3:51     ` J, KEERTHY
2012-05-11  3:51       ` J, KEERTHY
2012-05-11  3:51       ` J, KEERTHY
2012-04-26 17:40 ` [PATCH V3 08/10] ARM: OMAP2+: SmartReflex: Create per-opp debugfs node for errminlimit Keerthy
2012-04-26 17:40   ` Keerthy
2012-04-26 17:40   ` Keerthy
2012-04-26 17:40 ` [PATCH V3 09/10] ARM: OMAP2+: SmartReflex: add POWER_AVS Kconfig options Keerthy
2012-04-26 17:40   ` Keerthy
2012-04-26 17:40   ` Keerthy
2012-04-26 17:40 ` [PATCH V3 10/10] ARM: OMAP: SmartReflex: Move smartreflex driver to drivers/ Keerthy
2012-04-26 17:40   ` Keerthy
2012-04-26 17:40   ` Keerthy
2012-04-26 19:11 ` [PATCH V3 00/10] PM: Create the AVS(Adaptive Voltage Scaling) Mark Brown
2012-04-26 19:11   ` Mark Brown
2012-04-26 19:11   ` Mark Brown
2012-04-27  5:39   ` J, KEERTHY
2012-04-27  5:39     ` J, KEERTHY
2012-04-27 17:56     ` Mark Brown
2012-04-27 17:56       ` Mark Brown
2012-04-27 17:56       ` Mark Brown
2012-04-27 21:01       ` Kevin Hilman
2012-04-27 21:01         ` Kevin Hilman
2012-04-27 21:01         ` Kevin Hilman
2012-04-30  4:25         ` J, KEERTHY
2012-04-30  4:25           ` J, KEERTHY
2012-04-30  4:25           ` J, KEERTHY
2012-04-30  9:54         ` Mark Brown
2012-04-30  9:54           ` Mark Brown
2012-04-30  9:54           ` Mark Brown
2012-04-30 21:51           ` Kevin Hilman
2012-04-30 21:51             ` Kevin Hilman
2012-04-30 21:51             ` Kevin Hilman
2012-05-02  5:04             ` J, KEERTHY [this message]
2012-05-02  5:04               ` J, KEERTHY
2012-05-02  5:04               ` J, KEERTHY
2012-05-04  5:05               ` J, KEERTHY
2012-05-04  5:05                 ` J, KEERTHY
2012-05-04  5:05                 ` J, KEERTHY
2012-05-04  8:21         ` AnilKumar, Chimata
2012-05-04  8:21           ` AnilKumar, Chimata
2012-05-04  8:21           ` AnilKumar, Chimata
2012-05-07 23:48           ` Kevin Hilman
2012-05-07 23:48             ` Kevin Hilman
2012-05-07 23:48             ` Kevin Hilman
2012-05-08  3:48             ` J, KEERTHY
2012-05-08  3:48               ` J, KEERTHY
2012-05-08  3:48               ` J, KEERTHY
2012-05-08 10:17             ` AnilKumar, Chimata
2012-05-08 10:17               ` AnilKumar, Chimata
2012-05-08 10:17               ` AnilKumar, Chimata
2012-05-08 20:38               ` Woodruff, Richard
2012-05-08 20:38                 ` Woodruff, Richard
2012-05-08 20:38                 ` Woodruff, Richard
2012-05-08 22:16                 ` [linux-pm] " Kevin Hilman
2012-05-08 22:16                   ` Kevin Hilman
2012-05-08 22:16                   ` Kevin Hilman
2012-05-09  0:39                   ` Woodruff, Richard
2012-05-09  0:39                     ` Woodruff, Richard
2012-05-09  0:39                     ` Woodruff, Richard
2012-05-09  8:19                     ` [linux-pm] " Koen Kooi
2012-05-09  8:19                       ` Koen Kooi
2012-05-09  8:19                       ` Koen Kooi
2012-05-09 18:29                     ` Kevin Hilman
2012-05-09 18:29                       ` Kevin Hilman
2012-05-09 18:29                       ` Kevin Hilman
2012-05-23 13:27                       ` Menon, Nishanth
2012-05-23 13:27                         ` Menon, Nishanth
2012-05-23 13:27                         ` Menon, Nishanth
2012-05-24 23:16                         ` [linux-pm] " Kevin Hilman
2012-05-24 23:16                           ` Kevin Hilman
2012-05-24 23:16                           ` Kevin Hilman
2012-05-07 23:51 ` Kevin Hilman
2012-05-07 23:51   ` Kevin Hilman
2012-05-07 23:51   ` Kevin Hilman
2012-05-15  5:46   ` J, KEERTHY
2012-05-15  5:46     ` J, KEERTHY
2012-05-15  5:46     ` J, KEERTHY
2012-05-23  4:51     ` J, KEERTHY
2012-05-23  4:51       ` J, KEERTHY
2012-05-24 17:24       ` Kevin Hilman
2012-05-24 17:24         ` Kevin Hilman
2012-05-24 17:24         ` Kevin Hilman
2012-05-31 22:40         ` Kevin Hilman
2012-05-31 22:40           ` Kevin Hilman
2012-05-31 22:40           ` Kevin Hilman
2012-06-01  3:45           ` J, KEERTHY
2012-06-01  3:45             ` J, KEERTHY
2012-04-26 18:05 Keerthy
2012-04-26 18:05 ` Keerthy
2012-04-26 18:05 ` Keerthy

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