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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
To: Benjamin GAIGNARD <benjamin.gaignard@st.com>
Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>,
	"rjw@rjwysocki.net" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	"viresh.kumar@linaro.org" <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Hugues FRUCHET <hugues.fruchet@st.com>,
	"mchehab@kernel.org" <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	"mcoquelin.stm32@gmail.com" <mcoquelin.stm32@gmail.com>,
	Alexandre TORGUE <alexandre.torgue@st.com>,
	"pavel@ucw.cz" <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	"len.brown@intel.com" <len.brown@intel.com>,
	"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-media@vger.kernel.org" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com" 
	<linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC RESEND 0/3] Introduce cpufreq minimum load QoS
Date: Wed, 27 May 2020 17:03:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJZ5v0h17aPe69KbZ6xVV4RiUKwSHWOQLycUFFNCprg5XPpN4g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fe69390f-ea8c-b6e3-7610-d6bd73e8500d@st.com>

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 4:54 PM Benjamin GAIGNARD
<benjamin.gaignard@st.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 5/27/20 2:48 PM, Benjamin GAIGNARD wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 5/27/20 2:22 PM, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> >> On Wed, 27 May 2020 at 13:17, Benjamin GAIGNARD
> >> <benjamin.gaignard@st.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 5/27/20 12:09 PM, Valentin Schneider wrote:
> >>>> Hi Benjamin,
> >>>>
> >>>> On 26/05/20 16:16, Benjamin Gaignard wrote:
> >>>>> A first round [1] of discussions and suggestions have already be
> >>>>> done on
> >>>>> this series but without found a solution to the problem. I resend
> >>>>> it to
> >>>>> progress on this topic.
> >>>>>
> >>>> Apologies for sleeping on that previous thread.
> >>>>
> >>>> So what had been suggested over there was to use uclamp to boost the
> >>>> frequency of the handling thread; however if you use threaded IRQs you
> >>>> get RT threads, which already get the max frequency by default (at
> >>>> least
> >>>> with schedutil).
> >>>>
> >>>> Does that not work for you, and if so, why?
> >>> That doesn't work because almost everything is done by the hardware
> >>> blocks
> >>> without charge the CPU so the thread isn't running. I have done the
> >>> tests with schedutil
> >>> and ondemand scheduler (which is the one I'm targeting). I have no
> >>> issues when using
> >>> performance scheduler because it always keep the highest frequencies.
> >> IMHO, the only way to ensure a min frequency for anything else than a
> >> thread is to use freq_qos_add_request() just like cpufreq cooling
> >> device but for the opposite QoS. This can be applied only on the
> >> frequency domain of the CPU which handles the interrupt.
> > I will give a try with this idea.
> > Thanks.
>
> Adding freq_qos_add_request(FREQ_QOS_MIN) when starting streaming frames
> solve my problem. I remove the request at the end of the streaming to
> restore
> the default value.

You may as well add the request once at the init time with the request
value set to PM_QOS_MIN_FREQUENCY_DEFAULT_VALUE initially and update
it as needed going forward.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
To: Benjamin GAIGNARD <benjamin.gaignard@st.com>
Cc: "len.brown@intel.com" <len.brown@intel.com>,
	Alexandre TORGUE <alexandre.torgue@st.com>,
	"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"viresh.kumar@linaro.org" <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	"pavel@ucw.cz" <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	"rjw@rjwysocki.net" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com"
	<linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com>,
	"mcoquelin.stm32@gmail.com" <mcoquelin.stm32@gmail.com>,
	Hugues FRUCHET <hugues.fruchet@st.com>,
	"mchehab@kernel.org" <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-media@vger.kernel.org" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC RESEND 0/3] Introduce cpufreq minimum load QoS
Date: Wed, 27 May 2020 17:03:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJZ5v0h17aPe69KbZ6xVV4RiUKwSHWOQLycUFFNCprg5XPpN4g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fe69390f-ea8c-b6e3-7610-d6bd73e8500d@st.com>

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 4:54 PM Benjamin GAIGNARD
<benjamin.gaignard@st.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 5/27/20 2:48 PM, Benjamin GAIGNARD wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 5/27/20 2:22 PM, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> >> On Wed, 27 May 2020 at 13:17, Benjamin GAIGNARD
> >> <benjamin.gaignard@st.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 5/27/20 12:09 PM, Valentin Schneider wrote:
> >>>> Hi Benjamin,
> >>>>
> >>>> On 26/05/20 16:16, Benjamin Gaignard wrote:
> >>>>> A first round [1] of discussions and suggestions have already be
> >>>>> done on
> >>>>> this series but without found a solution to the problem. I resend
> >>>>> it to
> >>>>> progress on this topic.
> >>>>>
> >>>> Apologies for sleeping on that previous thread.
> >>>>
> >>>> So what had been suggested over there was to use uclamp to boost the
> >>>> frequency of the handling thread; however if you use threaded IRQs you
> >>>> get RT threads, which already get the max frequency by default (at
> >>>> least
> >>>> with schedutil).
> >>>>
> >>>> Does that not work for you, and if so, why?
> >>> That doesn't work because almost everything is done by the hardware
> >>> blocks
> >>> without charge the CPU so the thread isn't running. I have done the
> >>> tests with schedutil
> >>> and ondemand scheduler (which is the one I'm targeting). I have no
> >>> issues when using
> >>> performance scheduler because it always keep the highest frequencies.
> >> IMHO, the only way to ensure a min frequency for anything else than a
> >> thread is to use freq_qos_add_request() just like cpufreq cooling
> >> device but for the opposite QoS. This can be applied only on the
> >> frequency domain of the CPU which handles the interrupt.
> > I will give a try with this idea.
> > Thanks.
>
> Adding freq_qos_add_request(FREQ_QOS_MIN) when starting streaming frames
> solve my problem. I remove the request at the end of the streaming to
> restore
> the default value.

You may as well add the request once at the init time with the request
value set to PM_QOS_MIN_FREQUENCY_DEFAULT_VALUE initially and update
it as needed going forward.

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-27 15:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-26 15:16 [RFC RESEND 0/3] Introduce cpufreq minimum load QoS Benjamin Gaignard
2020-05-26 15:16 ` Benjamin Gaignard
2020-05-26 15:16 ` [RFC 1/3] PM: QoS: " Benjamin Gaignard
2020-05-26 15:16   ` Benjamin Gaignard
2020-05-26 15:16 ` [RFC 2/3] cpufreq: governor: Use " Benjamin Gaignard
2020-05-26 15:16   ` Benjamin Gaignard
2020-05-26 15:16 ` [RFC 3/3] media: stm32-dcmi: Inform cpufreq governors about cpu load needs Benjamin Gaignard
2020-05-26 15:16   ` Benjamin Gaignard
2020-05-27 10:09 ` [RFC RESEND 0/3] Introduce cpufreq minimum load QoS Valentin Schneider
2020-05-27 10:09   ` Valentin Schneider
2020-05-27 11:17   ` Benjamin GAIGNARD
2020-05-27 11:17     ` Benjamin GAIGNARD
2020-05-27 12:14     ` Valentin Schneider
2020-05-27 12:14       ` Valentin Schneider
2020-05-27 13:11       ` Benjamin GAIGNARD
2020-05-27 13:11         ` Benjamin GAIGNARD
2020-05-27 15:02         ` Valentin Schneider
2020-05-27 15:02           ` Valentin Schneider
2020-05-27 12:22     ` Vincent Guittot
2020-05-27 12:22       ` Vincent Guittot
2020-05-27 12:48       ` Benjamin GAIGNARD
2020-05-27 12:48         ` Benjamin GAIGNARD
2020-05-27 14:54         ` Benjamin GAIGNARD
2020-05-27 14:54           ` Benjamin GAIGNARD
2020-05-27 15:03           ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2020-05-27 15:03             ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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