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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
To: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>
Cc: "Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Rafael Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Russell King" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Borislav Petkov" <bp@alien8.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"the arch/x86 maintainers" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	"Linux PM" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Vincent Guittot" <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	"Linux ARM" <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3] cpufreq: Call transition notifier only once for each policy
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2019 10:55:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJZ5v0jN-TqFSXRweqhv8rnJni1r8awMjiAVNbn3RuBhLS1yvA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190322062744.efpl4itnqtny7txf@vireshk-i7>

On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 7:28 AM Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org> wrote:
>
> On 21-03-19, 16:49, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > On Wed, 20 Mar 2019, Viresh Kumar wrote:
> > >
> > > diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/tsc.c b/arch/x86/kernel/tsc.c
> > > index 3fae23834069..b2fe665878f7 100644
> > > --- a/arch/x86/kernel/tsc.c
> > > +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/tsc.c
> > > @@ -958,10 +958,15 @@ static int time_cpufreq_notifier(struct notifier_block *nb, unsigned long val,
> > >     struct cpufreq_freqs *freq = data;
> > >     unsigned long *lpj;
> > >
> > > +   if (WARN_ON_ONCE(cpumask_weight(freq->policy->related_cpus) != 1)) {
> > > +           mark_tsc_unstable("cpufreq changes: related CPUs affected");
> > > +           return 0;
> > > +   }
> >
> > You might add a check which ensures that policy->cpu == smp_processor_id()
> > because if this is not the case ....
>
> How about something like this ?
>
>         if (WARN_ON_ONCE(cpumask_weight(freq->policy->related_cpus) != 1 ||
>                          freq->policy->cpu != smp_processor_id())) {
>                 mark_tsc_unstable("cpufreq changes: related CPUs affected");
>                 return 0;
>         }
>
>
> Thanks for your feedback.

Peter suggested something like this IIRC.

Anyway, I'm still concerned that this approach in general
fundamentally doesn't work on SMP with frequency synchronization,
which is the case for the platforms affected by the problem it
attempts to overcome.

The frequency has just been changed on one CPU, presumably to the
requested value (so this cannot work when turbo is enabled anyway),
but then it also has changed for all of the other CPUs in the system
(or at least in the package), so it is not sufficient to update the
single CPU here as it is only a messenger, so to speak.  However,
updating the other CPUs from here would be fundamentally racy AFAICS.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
To: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>
Cc: "Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Rafael Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Russell King" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Borislav Petkov" <bp@alien8.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"the arch/x86 maintainers" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	"Linux PM" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Vincent Guittot" <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	"Linux ARM" <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3] cpufreq: Call transition notifier only once for each policy
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2019 09:55:59 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJZ5v0jN-TqFSXRweqhv8rnJni1r8awMjiAVNbn3RuBhLS1yvA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190322062744.efpl4itnqtny7txf@vireshk-i7>

On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 7:28 AM Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org> wrote:
>
> On 21-03-19, 16:49, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > On Wed, 20 Mar 2019, Viresh Kumar wrote:
> > >
> > > diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/tsc.c b/arch/x86/kernel/tsc.c
> > > index 3fae23834069..b2fe665878f7 100644
> > > --- a/arch/x86/kernel/tsc.c
> > > +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/tsc.c
> > > @@ -958,10 +958,15 @@ static int time_cpufreq_notifier(struct notifier_block *nb, unsigned long val,
> > >     struct cpufreq_freqs *freq = data;
> > >     unsigned long *lpj;
> > >
> > > +   if (WARN_ON_ONCE(cpumask_weight(freq->policy->related_cpus) != 1)) {
> > > +           mark_tsc_unstable("cpufreq changes: related CPUs affected");
> > > +           return 0;
> > > +   }
> >
> > You might add a check which ensures that policy->cpu = smp_processor_id()
> > because if this is not the case ....
>
> How about something like this ?
>
>         if (WARN_ON_ONCE(cpumask_weight(freq->policy->related_cpus) != 1 ||
>                          freq->policy->cpu != smp_processor_id())) {
>                 mark_tsc_unstable("cpufreq changes: related CPUs affected");
>                 return 0;
>         }
>
>
> Thanks for your feedback.

Peter suggested something like this IIRC.

Anyway, I'm still concerned that this approach in general
fundamentally doesn't work on SMP with frequency synchronization,
which is the case for the platforms affected by the problem it
attempts to overcome.

The frequency has just been changed on one CPU, presumably to the
requested value (so this cannot work when turbo is enabled anyway),
but then it also has changed for all of the other CPUs in the system
(or at least in the package), so it is not sufficient to update the
single CPU here as it is only a messenger, so to speak.  However,
updating the other CPUs from here would be fundamentally racy AFAICS.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
To: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>
Cc: "Vincent Guittot" <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Linux PM" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"the arch/x86 maintainers" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"Rafael Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	"Russell King" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Borislav Petkov" <bp@alien8.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Linux ARM" <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3] cpufreq: Call transition notifier only once for each policy
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2019 10:55:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJZ5v0jN-TqFSXRweqhv8rnJni1r8awMjiAVNbn3RuBhLS1yvA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190322062744.efpl4itnqtny7txf@vireshk-i7>

On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 7:28 AM Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org> wrote:
>
> On 21-03-19, 16:49, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > On Wed, 20 Mar 2019, Viresh Kumar wrote:
> > >
> > > diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/tsc.c b/arch/x86/kernel/tsc.c
> > > index 3fae23834069..b2fe665878f7 100644
> > > --- a/arch/x86/kernel/tsc.c
> > > +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/tsc.c
> > > @@ -958,10 +958,15 @@ static int time_cpufreq_notifier(struct notifier_block *nb, unsigned long val,
> > >     struct cpufreq_freqs *freq = data;
> > >     unsigned long *lpj;
> > >
> > > +   if (WARN_ON_ONCE(cpumask_weight(freq->policy->related_cpus) != 1)) {
> > > +           mark_tsc_unstable("cpufreq changes: related CPUs affected");
> > > +           return 0;
> > > +   }
> >
> > You might add a check which ensures that policy->cpu == smp_processor_id()
> > because if this is not the case ....
>
> How about something like this ?
>
>         if (WARN_ON_ONCE(cpumask_weight(freq->policy->related_cpus) != 1 ||
>                          freq->policy->cpu != smp_processor_id())) {
>                 mark_tsc_unstable("cpufreq changes: related CPUs affected");
>                 return 0;
>         }
>
>
> Thanks for your feedback.

Peter suggested something like this IIRC.

Anyway, I'm still concerned that this approach in general
fundamentally doesn't work on SMP with frequency synchronization,
which is the case for the platforms affected by the problem it
attempts to overcome.

The frequency has just been changed on one CPU, presumably to the
requested value (so this cannot work when turbo is enabled anyway),
but then it also has changed for all of the other CPUs in the system
(or at least in the package), so it is not sufficient to update the
single CPU here as it is only a messenger, so to speak.  However,
updating the other CPUs from here would be fundamentally racy AFAICS.

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Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-20  4:52 [PATCH V3] cpufreq: Call transition notifier only once for each policy Viresh Kumar
2019-03-20  4:52 ` Viresh Kumar
2019-03-20  4:52 ` Viresh Kumar
2019-03-21 11:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-21 11:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-21 11:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-21 11:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-22  6:19   ` Viresh Kumar
2019-03-22  6:31     ` Viresh Kumar
2019-03-22  6:19     ` Viresh Kumar
2019-04-24  6:47     ` Viresh Kumar
2019-04-24  6:59       ` Viresh Kumar
2019-04-24  6:47       ` Viresh Kumar
2019-04-24  7:26       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-04-24  7:26         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-04-24  7:26         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-03-21 15:49 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-03-21 15:49   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-03-21 15:49   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-03-22  6:27   ` Viresh Kumar
2019-03-22  6:39     ` Viresh Kumar
2019-03-22  6:27     ` Viresh Kumar
2019-03-22  9:55     ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2019-03-22  9:55       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-03-22  9:55       ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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