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From: liu ping fan <qemulist@gmail.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Jan Kiszka" <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	"Marcelo Tosatti" <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Blue Swirl" <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
	"Anthony Liguori" <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/15] qom: introduce reclaimer to release obj
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 14:43:48 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJnKYQk5+CQbcAxWYVkVPhr=jWDfZZJt402PME5ZcD-QXBH72g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5023725A.2030306@redhat.com>

On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com> wrote:
> On 08/09/2012 10:49 AM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> Il 09/08/2012 09:33, liu ping fan ha scritto:
>>> Yes, it is to defer destructors.
>>> See 0009-memory-prepare-flatview-and-radix-tree-for-rcu-style.patch
>>> When MemoryRegion is _del_subregion from mem in updater, it may be
>>> still in use by reader -- radix or flatview, so defer its destructors
>>> to the reclaimer --phys_map_release(PhysMap *map)
>>
>> How are you sure that the reader is already out of its critical section
>> by the time the reclaimer runs?
>>
>>> If we have rcu, it could be elegant to do this.
>>
>> Yeah, I think inventing primitives is dangerous and difficult to review;
>> and it may be difficult to replace it with proper call_rcu.
>>
>> You should probably make a proof-of-concept using liburcu.  Then we can
>> decide how to implement RCU in a way that is portable enough for QEMU's
>> needs.
>
> IMO we should start with a simple mutex (which will cover only the
> lookup and map rebuild).  This should reduce the contention to basically
> nothing (still leaving a cache line bounce).  If a profile shows the
> cache line bounce hurting us, or perhaps contention in ultralarge
> guests, then we should switch to rcu.
>
Agree, I think this will pin us on the major issue -- mmio perfermance

Regards,
pingfan
>
> --
> error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: liu ping fan <qemulist@gmail.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Jan Kiszka" <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	"Marcelo Tosatti" <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Blue Swirl" <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
	"Anthony Liguori" <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/15] qom: introduce reclaimer to release obj
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 14:43:48 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJnKYQk5+CQbcAxWYVkVPhr=jWDfZZJt402PME5ZcD-QXBH72g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5023725A.2030306@redhat.com>

On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com> wrote:
> On 08/09/2012 10:49 AM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> Il 09/08/2012 09:33, liu ping fan ha scritto:
>>> Yes, it is to defer destructors.
>>> See 0009-memory-prepare-flatview-and-radix-tree-for-rcu-style.patch
>>> When MemoryRegion is _del_subregion from mem in updater, it may be
>>> still in use by reader -- radix or flatview, so defer its destructors
>>> to the reclaimer --phys_map_release(PhysMap *map)
>>
>> How are you sure that the reader is already out of its critical section
>> by the time the reclaimer runs?
>>
>>> If we have rcu, it could be elegant to do this.
>>
>> Yeah, I think inventing primitives is dangerous and difficult to review;
>> and it may be difficult to replace it with proper call_rcu.
>>
>> You should probably make a proof-of-concept using liburcu.  Then we can
>> decide how to implement RCU in a way that is portable enough for QEMU's
>> needs.
>
> IMO we should start with a simple mutex (which will cover only the
> lookup and map rebuild).  This should reduce the contention to basically
> nothing (still leaving a cache line bounce).  If a profile shows the
> cache line bounce hurting us, or perhaps contention in ultralarge
> guests, then we should switch to rcu.
>
Agree, I think this will pin us on the major issue -- mmio perfermance

Regards,
pingfan
>
> --
> error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-10  6:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 154+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-08  6:25 [PATCH 0/15 v2] prepare unplug out of protection of global lock Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  6:25 ` [Qemu-devel] " Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  6:25 ` [PATCH 01/15] atomic: introduce atomic operations Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  6:25   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  8:55   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-08  8:55     ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-08  9:02   ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-08  9:02     ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2012-08-08  9:05     ` 陳韋任 (Wei-Ren Chen)
2012-08-08  9:05       ` 陳韋任 (Wei-Ren Chen)
2012-08-08  9:15       ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-08  9:15         ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2012-08-08  9:21   ` Peter Maydell
2012-08-08  9:21     ` Peter Maydell
2012-08-08 13:09     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-08-08 13:09       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-08-08 13:18       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-08 13:18         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-08 13:32         ` Peter Maydell
2012-08-08 13:32           ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Maydell
2012-08-08 13:49           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-08 13:49             ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-08 14:00             ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-08 14:00               ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2012-08-08  6:25 ` [PATCH 02/15] qom: using atomic ops to re-implement object_ref Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  6:25   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  6:25 ` [PATCH 03/15] qom: introduce reclaimer to release obj Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  6:25   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  9:05   ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-08  9:05     ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2012-08-08  9:07     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-08  9:07       ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-08  9:15       ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-08  9:15         ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2012-08-09  7:33         ` liu ping fan
2012-08-09  7:33           ` [Qemu-devel] " liu ping fan
2012-08-09  7:49           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-09  7:49             ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-09  8:18             ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-09  8:18               ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2012-08-10  6:43               ` liu ping fan [this message]
2012-08-10  6:43                 ` liu ping fan
2012-08-08  9:35   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-08  9:35     ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-09  7:38     ` liu ping fan
2012-08-09  7:38       ` [Qemu-devel] " liu ping fan
2012-08-08  6:25 ` [PATCH 04/15] memory: MemoryRegion topology must be stable when updating Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  6:25   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  9:13   ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-08  9:13     ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2012-08-09  7:28     ` liu ping fan
2012-08-09  7:28       ` [Qemu-devel] " liu ping fan
2012-08-09  8:24       ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-09  8:24         ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2012-08-10  6:44         ` liu ping fan
2012-08-10  6:44           ` [Qemu-devel] " liu ping fan
2012-08-13 18:28       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-08-13 18:28         ` [Qemu-devel] " Marcelo Tosatti
2012-08-08 19:17   ` Blue Swirl
2012-08-08 19:17     ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2012-08-09  7:28     ` liu ping fan
2012-08-09  7:28       ` [Qemu-devel] " liu ping fan
2012-08-09 17:09       ` Blue Swirl
2012-08-09 17:09         ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2012-08-08  6:25 ` [PATCH 05/15] memory: introduce life_ops to MemoryRegion Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  6:25   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  9:18   ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-08  9:18     ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2012-08-08  6:25 ` [PATCH 06/15] memory: use refcnt to manage MemoryRegion Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  6:25   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  9:20   ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-08  9:20     ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2012-08-09  7:27     ` liu ping fan
2012-08-09  7:27       ` [Qemu-devel] " liu ping fan
2012-08-09  8:38       ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-09  8:38         ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2012-08-10  6:44         ` liu ping fan
2012-08-10  6:44           ` [Qemu-devel] " liu ping fan
2012-08-12  8:43           ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-12  8:43             ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2012-08-08  6:25 ` [PATCH 07/15] memory: inc/dec mr's ref when adding/removing from mem view Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  6:25   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  6:25 ` [PATCH 08/15] memory: introduce PhysMap to present snapshot of toploygy Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  6:25   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  9:27   ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-08  9:27     ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2012-08-08 19:18   ` Blue Swirl
2012-08-08 19:18     ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2012-08-09  7:29     ` liu ping fan
2012-08-09  7:29       ` [Qemu-devel] " liu ping fan
2012-08-08  6:25 ` [PATCH 09/15] memory: prepare flatview and radix-tree for rcu style access Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  6:25   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  9:41   ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-08  9:41     ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2012-08-11  1:58     ` liu ping fan
2012-08-11  1:58       ` [Qemu-devel] " liu ping fan
2012-08-11 10:06       ` liu ping fan
2012-08-11 10:06         ` [Qemu-devel] " liu ping fan
2012-08-08 19:23   ` Blue Swirl
2012-08-08 19:23     ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2012-08-09  7:29     ` liu ping fan
2012-08-09  7:29       ` [Qemu-devel] " liu ping fan
2012-08-08  6:25 ` [PATCH 10/15] memory: change tcg related code to using PhysMap Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  6:25   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  6:25 ` [PATCH 11/15] lock: introduce global lock for device tree Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  6:25   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  9:41   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-08  9:41     ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-09  7:28     ` liu ping fan
2012-08-09  7:28       ` [Qemu-devel] " liu ping fan
2012-08-09  7:41       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-09  7:41         ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-08  9:42   ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-08  9:42     ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2012-08-09  7:27     ` liu ping fan
2012-08-09  7:27       ` [Qemu-devel] " liu ping fan
2012-08-09  8:31       ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-09  8:31         ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2012-08-08  6:25 ` [PATCH 12/15] qdev: using devtree lock to protect device's accessing Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  6:25   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  9:33   ` Peter Maydell
2012-08-08  9:33     ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Maydell
2012-08-08  6:25 ` [PATCH 13/15] hotplug: introduce qdev_unplug_complete() to remove device from views Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  6:25   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  9:52   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-08  9:52     ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-08 10:07     ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-08 10:07       ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2012-08-09  7:28     ` liu ping fan
2012-08-09  7:28       ` [Qemu-devel] " liu ping fan
2012-08-09  8:00       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-09  8:00         ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-10  6:42         ` liu ping fan
2012-08-10  6:42           ` [Qemu-devel] " liu ping fan
2012-08-13 18:53           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-08-13 18:53             ` [Qemu-devel] " Marcelo Tosatti
2012-08-13 18:51         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-08-13 18:51           ` [Qemu-devel] " Marcelo Tosatti
2012-08-08  6:25 ` [PATCH 14/15] qom: object_unref call reclaimer Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  6:25   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  9:40   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-08  9:40     ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-13 18:56   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-08-13 18:56     ` [Qemu-devel] " Marcelo Tosatti
2012-08-08  6:25 ` [PATCH 15/15] e1000: using new interface--unmap to unplug Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  6:25   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-08  9:56   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-08  9:56     ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-09  7:28     ` liu ping fan
2012-08-09  7:28       ` [Qemu-devel] " liu ping fan
2012-08-09  7:40       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-09  7:40         ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-10  6:43         ` liu ping fan
2012-08-10  6:43           ` [Qemu-devel] " liu ping fan

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