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From: Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: "Chang S. Bae" <chang.seok.bae@intel.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	"Brown, Len" <len.brown@intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Thiago Macieira <thiago.macieira@intel.com>,
	"Liu, Jing2" <jing2.liu@intel.com>,
	"Ravi V. Shankar" <ravi.v.shankar@intel.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 12/26] x86/fpu/xstate: Use feature disable (XFD) to protect dynamic user state
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2021 18:07:23 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJvTdKm=mPQUhJax-UietFFELOuHn89he6FPNb5jUC_Mcdc_rw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YS0bAPaDGcDKftUp@zn.tnic>

On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 1:52 PM Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de> wrote:

> Well, if you preallocate everything...

Nothing prevents, say, a pthread_create() or anything
else where the kernel consumes memory on behalf of a process
from failing at run-time...  AMX does not add a unique OOM risk here.

> > The advantage of the #NM over the syscall is that the programmer
> > doesn't actually have to do anything. Also, transparently allocated
> > buffers offer a theoretical benefit that a program may have many
> > threads, but only a few may actually touch AMX, and so there is
> > savings to be had by allocating buffers only for the threads that
> > actually use the buffers.
>
> The program already asked the kernel whether it can use AMX - it can
> allocate the buffers for the threads too.

The result is that if one thread in a 1,000 task process requests
and touches AMX, the kernel would allocate 8MB, instead of 8KB
of context switch buffers for that process, no?

Len Brown, Intel Open Source Technology Center

  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-31 22:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-30 14:59 [PATCH v9 00/26] x86: Support Intel Advanced Matrix Extensions Chang S. Bae
2021-07-30 14:59 ` [PATCH v9 01/26] x86/fpu/xstate: Modify the initialization helper to handle both static and dynamic buffers Chang S. Bae
2021-07-30 14:59 ` [PATCH v9 02/26] x86/fpu/xstate: Modify state copy helpers " Chang S. Bae
2021-07-30 14:59 ` [PATCH v9 03/26] x86/fpu/xstate: Modify address finders " Chang S. Bae
2021-07-30 14:59 ` [PATCH v9 04/26] x86/fpu/xstate: Add a new variable to indicate dynamic user states Chang S. Bae
2021-07-30 14:59 ` [PATCH v9 05/26] x86/fpu/xstate: Add new variables to indicate dynamic XSTATE buffer size Chang S. Bae
2021-08-12 15:03   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-07-30 14:59 ` [PATCH v9 06/26] x86/fpu/xstate: Calculate and remember dynamic XSTATE buffer sizes Chang S. Bae
2021-08-12 16:36   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-07-30 14:59 ` [PATCH v9 07/26] x86/fpu/xstate: Convert the struct fpu 'state' field to a pointer Chang S. Bae
2021-08-12 17:09   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-07-30 14:59 ` [PATCH v9 08/26] x86/fpu/xstate: Introduce helpers to manage the XSTATE buffer dynamically Chang S. Bae
2021-08-12 19:44   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-08-13  8:04     ` Bae, Chang Seok
2021-08-13 10:04       ` Borislav Petkov
2021-08-13 19:43         ` Bae, Chang Seok
2021-08-18  9:28           ` Borislav Petkov
2021-08-18 19:46             ` Bae, Chang Seok
2021-08-25 16:01               ` Bae, Chang Seok
2021-08-30 17:07               ` Borislav Petkov
2021-08-30 23:39                 ` Bae, Chang Seok
2021-08-16 18:33     ` Bae, Chang Seok
2021-08-16 18:53       ` Borislav Petkov
2021-08-30 17:45   ` Dave Hansen
2021-08-30 23:39     ` Bae, Chang Seok
2021-07-30 14:59 ` [PATCH v9 09/26] x86/fpu/xstate: Update the XSTATE save function to support dynamic states Chang S. Bae
2021-07-30 14:59 ` [PATCH v9 10/26] x86/fpu/xstate: Update the XSTATE buffer address finder " Chang S. Bae
2021-08-18 11:33   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-08-18 19:47     ` Bae, Chang Seok
2021-08-30 17:18       ` Borislav Petkov
2021-08-30 23:38         ` Bae, Chang Seok
2021-07-30 14:59 ` [PATCH v9 11/26] x86/fpu/xstate: Update the XSTATE context copy function " Chang S. Bae
2021-08-18 12:03   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-08-18 19:47     ` Bae, Chang Seok
2021-07-30 14:59 ` [PATCH v9 12/26] x86/fpu/xstate: Use feature disable (XFD) to protect dynamic user state Chang S. Bae
2021-08-18 16:24   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-08-18 17:20     ` Thiago Macieira
2021-08-18 17:46       ` Borislav Petkov
2021-08-18 17:58         ` Thiago Macieira
2021-08-18 18:10           ` Borislav Petkov
2021-08-24 22:51             ` Len Brown
2021-08-18 20:43         ` Bae, Chang Seok
2021-08-18 21:04           ` Thiago Macieira
2021-08-18 21:12             ` Bae, Chang Seok
2021-08-18 22:27               ` Thiago Macieira
2021-08-19  1:21             ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-08-19 16:06               ` Thiago Macieira
2021-08-18 21:17           ` Borislav Petkov
2021-08-18 21:37             ` Bae, Chang Seok
2021-08-19  8:00               ` Borislav Petkov
2021-08-19 15:24                 ` Bae, Chang Seok
2021-08-24 23:22             ` Len Brown
2021-08-30 17:31               ` Borislav Petkov
2021-09-17  3:48                 ` Len Brown
2021-08-18 19:47     ` Bae, Chang Seok
2021-08-24 22:21     ` Len Brown
2021-08-30 17:41       ` Borislav Petkov
2021-08-31 21:44         ` Len Brown
2021-08-24 23:17     ` Len Brown
2021-08-30 17:53       ` Borislav Petkov
2021-08-31 22:07         ` Len Brown [this message]
2021-08-31 22:11           ` Dave Hansen
2021-08-30 18:04       ` Dave Hansen
2021-08-31 22:15         ` Len Brown
2021-08-31 22:16           ` Len Brown
2021-08-31 22:39           ` Thiago Macieira
2021-08-31 22:44             ` Len Brown
2021-07-30 14:59 ` [PATCH v9 13/26] x86/fpu/xstate: Support ptracer-induced XSTATE buffer expansion Chang S. Bae
2021-07-30 14:59 ` [PATCH v9 14/26] x86/arch_prctl: Create ARCH_SET_STATE_ENABLE/ARCH_GET_STATE_ENABLE Chang S. Bae
2021-08-06 16:46   ` Thiago Macieira
2021-08-09 22:08     ` Bae, Chang Seok
2021-08-09 23:42       ` Thiago Macieira
2021-08-10  0:57         ` Bae, Chang Seok
2021-08-13 19:44           ` Bae, Chang Seok
2021-07-30 14:59 ` [PATCH v9 15/26] x86/fpu/xstate: Support both legacy and expanded signal XSTATE size Chang S. Bae
2021-07-30 14:59 ` [PATCH v9 16/26] x86/fpu/xstate: Adjust the XSAVE feature table to address gaps in state component numbers Chang S. Bae
2021-07-30 14:59 ` [PATCH v9 17/26] x86/fpu/xstate: Disable XSTATE support if an inconsistent state is detected Chang S. Bae
2021-07-30 14:59 ` [PATCH v9 18/26] x86/cpufeatures/amx: Enumerate Advanced Matrix Extension (AMX) feature bits Chang S. Bae
2021-07-30 14:59 ` [PATCH v9 19/26] x86/fpu/amx: Define AMX state components and have it used for boot-time checks Chang S. Bae
2021-07-30 14:59 ` [PATCH v9 20/26] x86/fpu/amx: Initialize child's AMX state Chang S. Bae
2021-07-30 14:59 ` [PATCH v9 21/26] x86/fpu/amx: Enable the AMX feature in 64-bit mode Chang S. Bae
2021-07-30 14:59 ` [PATCH v9 22/26] x86/fpu/xstate: Skip writing zeros to signal frame for dynamic user states if in INIT-state Chang S. Bae
2021-07-30 14:59 ` [PATCH v9 23/26] selftest/x86/amx: Test cases for the AMX state management Chang S. Bae
2021-07-30 14:59 ` [PATCH v9 24/26] x86/insn/amx: Add TILERELEASE instruction to the opcode map Chang S. Bae
2021-07-30 14:59 ` [PATCH v9 25/26] intel_idle/amx: Add SPR support with XTILEDATA capability Chang S. Bae
2021-07-30 18:41   ` Dave Hansen
2021-08-03 21:32     ` Bae, Chang Seok
2021-08-03 21:38       ` Dave Hansen
2021-08-03 21:43         ` Brown, Len
2021-07-30 20:15   ` Dave Hansen
2021-07-30 14:59 ` [PATCH v9 26/26] x86/fpu/xstate: Add a sanity check for XFD state when saving XSTATE Chang S. Bae

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