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From: Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com>
To: Alexander Shenkin <al@shenkin.org>
Cc: Phil Turmel <philip@turmel.org>,
	Wols Lists <antlists@youngman.org.uk>,
	Reindl Harald <h.reindl@thelounge.net>,
	Carsten Aulbert <carsten.aulbert@aei.mpg.de>,
	Linux-RAID <linux-raid@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: SMART detects pending sectors; take offline?
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 06:21:49 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAK2H+ecT1Psph5Wm9LrPgYOba6PHKzAs55H1LWiqLD+kaBUQZQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5b28b0fc-5e4d-9ac3-9a82-7e36f25c5108@shenkin.org>

On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 6:16 AM, Alexander Shenkin <al@shenkin.org> wrote:
> On 10/12/2017 2:04 PM, Phil Turmel wrote:
>>
>> On 10/12/2017 07:01 AM, Wols Lists wrote:
>>>
>>> On 12/10/17 10:50, Alexander Shenkin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Phil... Googling around, I haven't found a way to change it
>>>> either, but then again, I'm not really sure what to search for.
>>>>
>>>> What about changing my default disk timeout to something less than 120
>>>> secs?  Say, 100 secs instead of 180?
>>
>>
>> Nope.  The number has to be longer than the actual longest timeout of
>> your drive, which we now know is >120.  When I first investigated this
>> phenomenon years ago, I picked 120 for my timeouts.  Other reports
>> reached the list with the need for longer, and the recommendation for
>> 180 was chosen.
>>
>> If the driver times out, it resets the SATA connection while the drive
>> is still in la-la land.  MD gets the error and tries to write the fixed
>> sector.  The SATA connection is still resetting at that point, and MD
>> gets a *write* error, which boots that drive out of the array.
>
>
> Thanks Phil.  Lots of questions in my head, but all rather newbie-ish and
> don't want to bother folks, so I'll just wait till you experts hash it out
> and then will follow recommendations...
>
> thanks,
> allie

Not an expert here but on my Gentoo systems all running kernel 4.12.12 I
have the hangcheck timer disabled. Using it does not appear to be a
hard requirement.

- Mark

  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-12 13:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-07  7:48 SMART detects pending sectors; take offline? Alexander Shenkin
2017-10-07  8:21 ` Carsten Aulbert
2017-10-07 10:05   ` Alexander Shenkin
2017-10-07 17:29     ` Wols Lists
2017-10-08  9:19       ` Alexander Shenkin
2017-10-08  9:49         ` Wols Lists
2017-10-09 20:16   ` Phil Turmel
2017-10-10  9:00     ` Alexander Shenkin
2017-10-10  9:11       ` Reindl Harald
2017-10-10  9:56         ` Alexander Shenkin
2017-10-10 12:55           ` Phil Turmel
2017-10-11 10:31             ` Alexander Shenkin
2017-10-11 17:10               ` Phil Turmel
2017-10-12  9:50                 ` Alexander Shenkin
2017-10-12 11:01                   ` Wols Lists
2017-10-12 13:04                     ` Phil Turmel
2017-10-12 13:16                       ` Alexander Shenkin
2017-10-12 13:21                         ` Mark Knecht [this message]
2017-10-12 15:16                           ` Edward Kuns
2017-10-12 15:52                             ` Edward Kuns
2017-10-15 14:41                               ` Alexander Shenkin
2017-12-18 15:51                               ` Alexander Shenkin
2017-12-18 16:09                                 ` Phil Turmel
2017-12-19 10:35                                   ` Alexander Shenkin
2017-12-19 12:02                                     ` Phil Turmel
2017-12-21 11:28                                       ` Alexander Shenkin
2017-12-21 11:38                                         ` Reindl Harald
2017-12-23  3:14                                           ` Brad Campbell
2018-01-03 12:44                                             ` Alexander Shenkin
2018-01-03 13:26                                               ` Brad Campbell
2018-01-03 13:50                                                 ` Alexander Shenkin
2018-01-03 15:53                                                   ` Phil Turmel
2018-01-03 15:59                                                     ` Alexander Shenkin
2018-01-03 16:02                                                       ` Phil Turmel
2018-01-04 10:37                                                         ` Alexander Shenkin
2018-01-04 12:28                                                           ` Alexander Shenkin
2018-01-04 13:16                                                             ` Brad Campbell
2018-01-04 13:39                                                               ` Alexander Shenkin
2018-01-05  5:20                                                                 ` Brad Campbell
2018-01-05  5:25                                                                   ` Brad Campbell
2018-01-05 10:10                                                                     ` Alexander Shenkin
2018-01-05 10:32                                                                       ` Brad Campbell
2018-01-05 13:50                                                                       ` Phil Turmel
2018-01-05 14:01                                                                         ` Alexander Shenkin
2018-01-05 15:59                                                                         ` Wols Lists
2017-10-12 15:19                   ` Kai Stian Olstad
2017-10-10 22:23           ` josh
2017-10-11  6:23             ` Alexander Shenkin
2017-10-10  9:21       ` Wols Lists

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