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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "Viresh Kumar" <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	"Jie Deng" <jie.deng@intel.com>,
	"Linux I2C" <linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Wolfram Sang" <wsa@kernel.org>,
	"Jason Wang" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"Wolfram Sang" <wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com>,
	conghui.chen@intel.com, kblaiech@mellanox.com,
	jarkko.nikula@linux.intel.com,
	"Sergey Semin" <Sergey.Semin@baikalelectronics.ru>,
	"Mike Rapoport" <rppt@kernel.org>,
	loic.poulain@linaro.org, "Tali Perry" <tali.perry1@gmail.com>,
	"Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>,
	"Bjorn Andersson" <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org>,
	yu1.wang@intel.com, shuo.a.liu@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5] i2c: virtio: add a virtio i2c frontend driver
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2021 16:46:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAK8P3a1g_UXKVnDfDEfj=swqgUNb+bu+1O7mDMfCt55o0w0jxw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YDzZocYCA8UC1FCW@smile.fi.intel.com>

On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 1:10 PM Andy Shevchenko
<andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 01, 2021 at 02:09:25PM +0200, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 01, 2021 at 05:24:41PM +0530, Viresh Kumar wrote:
> > > On 01-03-21, 14:41, Jie Deng wrote:
> > > > +/**
> > > > + * struct virtio_i2c_req - the virtio I2C request structure
> > > > + * @out_hdr: the OUT header of the virtio I2C message
> > > > + * @write_buf: contains one I2C segment being written to the device
> > > > + * @read_buf: contains one I2C segment being read from the device
> > > > + * @in_hdr: the IN header of the virtio I2C message
> > > > + */
> > > > +struct virtio_i2c_req {
> > > > + struct virtio_i2c_out_hdr out_hdr;
> > > > + u8 *write_buf;
> > > > + u8 *read_buf;
> > > > + struct virtio_i2c_in_hdr in_hdr;
> > > > +};
> > >
> > > I am not able to appreciate the use of write/read bufs here as we
> > > aren't trying to read/write data in the same transaction. Why do we
> > > have two bufs here as well as in specs ?
> >
> > I涎 and SMBus support bidirectional transfers as well. I think two buffers is
> > the right thing to do.
>
> Strictly speaking "half duplex".

But the driver does not support this at all: the sglist always has three
members as Viresh says: outhdr, msgbuf and inhdr. It then uses a
bounce buffer for the actual data transfer, and this always goes either
one way or the other.

I think the more important question is: does this driver actually need
the bounce buffer? It doesn't have to worry about adjacent stack
data being clobbered by cache maintenance because virtio is always
cache coherent and, so I suspect the bounce buffer can be left out.

It might actually be simpler to just have a fixed-length array of
headers on the stack and at most the corresponding number of
transfers for one virtqueue_kick().

Is there a reasonable limit on how many transfers we would
expect to handle at once? I see that most callers of i2c_transfer()
hardcode the number to '1' or '2', rarely '3' or '4', while the proposed
implementation seems to be optimized for much larger numbers.

       Arnd

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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "Sergey Semin" <Sergey.Semin@baikalelectronics.ru>,
	"Bjorn Andersson" <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org>,
	loic.poulain@linaro.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Viresh Kumar" <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	shuo.a.liu@intel.com,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	"Wolfram Sang" <wsa@kernel.org>,
	"Wolfram Sang" <wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com>,
	jarkko.nikula@linux.intel.com,
	"Linux I2C" <linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>,
	kblaiech@mellanox.com, "Tali Perry" <tali.perry1@gmail.com>,
	conghui.chen@intel.com, "Mike Rapoport" <rppt@kernel.org>,
	yu1.wang@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5] i2c: virtio: add a virtio i2c frontend driver
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2021 16:46:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAK8P3a1g_UXKVnDfDEfj=swqgUNb+bu+1O7mDMfCt55o0w0jxw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YDzZocYCA8UC1FCW@smile.fi.intel.com>

On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 1:10 PM Andy Shevchenko
<andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 01, 2021 at 02:09:25PM +0200, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 01, 2021 at 05:24:41PM +0530, Viresh Kumar wrote:
> > > On 01-03-21, 14:41, Jie Deng wrote:
> > > > +/**
> > > > + * struct virtio_i2c_req - the virtio I2C request structure
> > > > + * @out_hdr: the OUT header of the virtio I2C message
> > > > + * @write_buf: contains one I2C segment being written to the device
> > > > + * @read_buf: contains one I2C segment being read from the device
> > > > + * @in_hdr: the IN header of the virtio I2C message
> > > > + */
> > > > +struct virtio_i2c_req {
> > > > + struct virtio_i2c_out_hdr out_hdr;
> > > > + u8 *write_buf;
> > > > + u8 *read_buf;
> > > > + struct virtio_i2c_in_hdr in_hdr;
> > > > +};
> > >
> > > I am not able to appreciate the use of write/read bufs here as we
> > > aren't trying to read/write data in the same transaction. Why do we
> > > have two bufs here as well as in specs ?
> >
> > I涎 and SMBus support bidirectional transfers as well. I think two buffers is
> > the right thing to do.
>
> Strictly speaking "half duplex".

But the driver does not support this at all: the sglist always has three
members as Viresh says: outhdr, msgbuf and inhdr. It then uses a
bounce buffer for the actual data transfer, and this always goes either
one way or the other.

I think the more important question is: does this driver actually need
the bounce buffer? It doesn't have to worry about adjacent stack
data being clobbered by cache maintenance because virtio is always
cache coherent and, so I suspect the bounce buffer can be left out.

It might actually be simpler to just have a fixed-length array of
headers on the stack and at most the corresponding number of
transfers for one virtqueue_kick().

Is there a reasonable limit on how many transfers we would
expect to handle at once? I see that most callers of i2c_transfer()
hardcode the number to '1' or '2', rarely '3' or '4', while the proposed
implementation seems to be optimized for much larger numbers.

       Arnd
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-01 15:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-01  6:41 [PATCH v5] i2c: virtio: add a virtio i2c frontend driver Jie Deng
2021-03-01  6:41 ` Jie Deng
2021-03-01 11:54 ` Viresh Kumar
2021-03-01 12:09   ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-03-01 12:09     ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-03-01 12:10     ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-03-01 12:10       ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-03-01 15:46       ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2021-03-01 15:46         ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-02  3:46         ` Viresh Kumar
2021-03-02  3:44       ` Viresh Kumar
2021-03-02  2:21   ` Jie Deng
2021-03-02  2:21     ` Jie Deng
2021-03-02  3:43     ` Viresh Kumar
2021-03-02  6:24       ` Jie Deng
2021-03-02  7:24         ` Viresh Kumar
2021-03-02  8:17           ` Jie Deng
2021-03-02  8:17             ` Jie Deng
2021-03-02  6:28       ` Jie Deng
2021-03-02  6:28         ` Jie Deng
2021-03-01 12:07 ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-03-01 12:07   ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-03-02  7:16   ` Jie Deng
2021-03-02  7:16     ` Jie Deng
2021-03-01 15:19 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-01 15:19   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-02  2:42   ` Jie Deng
2021-03-02  9:51     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-03-02  9:51       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-03-02 10:54       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-02 10:54         ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-03 17:48         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-03-03 17:48           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-03-02  4:01   ` Viresh Kumar
2021-03-02  4:22     ` Viresh Kumar
2021-03-02  5:06       ` Jie Deng
2021-03-02  5:06         ` Jie Deng
2021-03-02  5:16         ` Viresh Kumar
2021-03-02  5:42           ` Jason Wang
2021-03-02  5:42             ` Jason Wang
2021-03-02  4:42 ` Viresh Kumar
2021-03-02  5:21   ` Jie Deng
2021-03-02  5:21     ` Jie Deng
2021-03-02  5:25     ` Viresh Kumar
2021-03-03  7:54 ` Viresh Kumar
2021-03-03  8:46   ` Jie Deng
2021-03-03  8:46     ` Jie Deng
2021-03-03  9:38     ` Viresh Kumar
2021-03-04  1:47       ` Jie Deng
2021-03-04  1:47         ` Jie Deng

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