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From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: Jason Ekstrand <jason@jlekstrand.net>
Cc: Intel GFX <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Maling list - DRI developers <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] RFC: dma-buf: Add an API for importing sync files (v6)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2021 21:33:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKMK7uF46pvRqavOJqUzi10qEfa0e5-stZc_71JksHsNkZRRRA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOFGe95YJsW8goeDMPzLm=oHc0_Z7NHCAnPDwPaRWToN8s39=g@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 9:19 PM Jason Ekstrand <jason@jlekstrand.net> wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 10:37 AM Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 03:59:54PM -0500, Jason Ekstrand wrote:
> > > This patch is analogous to the previous sync file export patch in that
> > > it allows you to import a sync_file into a dma-buf.  Unlike the previous
> > > patch, however, this does add genuinely new functionality to dma-buf.
> > > Without this, the only way to attach a sync_file to a dma-buf is to
> > > submit a batch to your driver of choice which waits on the sync_file and
> > > claims to write to the dma-buf.  Even if said batch is a no-op, a submit
> > > is typically way more overhead than just attaching a fence.  A submit
> > > may also imply extra synchronization with other work because it happens
> > > on a hardware queue.
> > >
> > > In the Vulkan world, this is useful for dealing with the out-fence from
> > > vkQueuePresent.  Current Linux window-systems (X11, Wayland, etc.) all
> > > rely on dma-buf implicit sync.  Since Vulkan is an explicit sync API, we
> > > get a set of fences (VkSemaphores) in vkQueuePresent and have to stash
> > > those as an exclusive (write) fence on the dma-buf.  We handle it in
> > > Mesa today with the above mentioned dummy submit trick.  This ioctl
> > > would allow us to set it directly without the dummy submit.
> > >
> > > This may also open up possibilities for GPU drivers to move away from
> > > implicit sync for their kernel driver uAPI and instead provide sync
> > > files and rely on dma-buf import/export for communicating with other
> > > implicit sync clients.
> > >
> > > We make the explicit choice here to only allow setting RW fences which
> > > translates to an exclusive fence on the dma_resv.  There's no use for
> > > read-only fences for communicating with other implicit sync userspace
> > > and any such attempts are likely to be racy at best.  When we got to
> > > insert the RW fence, the actual fence we set as the new exclusive fence
> > > is a combination of the sync_file provided by the user and all the other
> > > fences on the dma_resv.  This ensures that the newly added exclusive
> > > fence will never signal before the old one would have and ensures that
> > > we don't break any dma_resv contracts.  We require userspace to specify
> > > RW in the flags for symmetry with the export ioctl and in case we ever
> > > want to support read fences in the future.
> > >
> > > There is one downside here that's worth documenting:  If two clients
> > > writing to the same dma-buf using this API race with each other, their
> > > actions on the dma-buf may happen in parallel or in an undefined order.
> > > Both with and without this API, the pattern is the same:  Collect all
> > > the fences on dma-buf, submit work which depends on said fences, and
> > > then set a new exclusive (write) fence on the dma-buf which depends on
> > > said work.  The difference is that, when it's all handled by the GPU
> > > driver's submit ioctl, the three operations happen atomically under the
> > > dma_resv lock.  If two userspace submits race, one will happen before
> > > the other.  You aren't guaranteed which but you are guaranteed that
> > > they're strictly ordered.  If userspace manages the fences itself, then
> > > these three operations happen separately and the two render operations
> > > may happen genuinely in parallel or get interleaved.  However, this is a
> > > case of userspace racing with itself.  As long as we ensure userspace
> > > can't back the kernel into a corner, it should be fine.
> > >
> > > v2 (Jason Ekstrand):
> > >  - Use a wrapper dma_fence_array of all fences including the new one
> > >    when importing an exclusive fence.
> > >
> > > v3 (Jason Ekstrand):
> > >  - Lock around setting shared fences as well as exclusive
> > >  - Mark SIGNAL_SYNC_FILE as a read-write ioctl.
> > >  - Initialize ret to 0 in dma_buf_wait_sync_file
> > >
> > > v4 (Jason Ekstrand):
> > >  - Use the new dma_resv_get_singleton helper
> > >
> > > v5 (Jason Ekstrand):
> > >  - Rename the IOCTLs to import/export rather than wait/signal
> > >  - Drop the WRITE flag and always get/set the exclusive fence
> > >
> > > v5 (Jason Ekstrand):
> > >  - Split import and export into separate patches
> > >  - New commit message
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Jason Ekstrand <jason@jlekstrand.net>
> > > ---
> > >  drivers/dma-buf/dma-buf.c    | 34 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >  include/uapi/linux/dma-buf.h |  1 +
> > >  2 files changed, 35 insertions(+)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/drivers/dma-buf/dma-buf.c b/drivers/dma-buf/dma-buf.c
> > > index f23d939e0e833..0a50c19dcf015 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/dma-buf/dma-buf.c
> > > +++ b/drivers/dma-buf/dma-buf.c
> > > @@ -419,6 +419,38 @@ static long dma_buf_export_sync_file(struct dma_buf *dmabuf,
> > >       put_unused_fd(fd);
> > >       return ret;
> > >  }
> > > +
> > > +static long dma_buf_import_sync_file(struct dma_buf *dmabuf,
> > > +                                  const void __user *user_data)
> > > +{
> > > +     struct dma_buf_sync_file arg;
> > > +     struct dma_fence *fence, *singleton = NULL;
> > > +     int ret = 0;
> > > +
> > > +     if (copy_from_user(&arg, user_data, sizeof(arg)))
> > > +             return -EFAULT;
> > > +
> > > +     if (arg.flags != DMA_BUF_SYNC_RW)
> > > +             return -EINVAL;
> > > +
> > > +     fence = sync_file_get_fence(arg.fd);
> > > +     if (!fence)
> > > +             return -EINVAL;
> > > +
> > > +     dma_resv_lock(dmabuf->resv, NULL);
> > > +
> > > +     singleton = dma_resv_get_singleton_unlocked(dmabuf->resv, fence);
> > > +     if (IS_ERR(singleton))
> > > +             ret = PTR_ERR(singleton);
> > > +     else if (singleton)
> > > +             dma_resv_add_excl_fence(dmabuf->resv, singleton);
> >
> > We also need to add the new fence to the shared slots, to make sure that
> > the collective sum of shared fences still retires after the exclusive one.
> > Not holding this up will pretty surely allow userspace to pull a bunch of
> > ttm based drivers over the table I think.
>
> Ok, will fix.
>
> > Note that with dma-buf shared buffers there shouldn't be a problem here,
> > since as long as the buffer is in use by the other driver (which might
> > break the contract here) it's pinned. So nothing bad can happen.
> >
> >
> > Aside: The read-only version of this just adds the new fence, and the
> > exclusive fence to the shared array. I think that would be useful to have,
> > if just for completeness. I need to pester you how external images work
> > here with vulkan ...
>
> As discussed on IRC, let's leave that out until we can figure out how
> it works. :-)

Yup, there's a bunch more things we need to clarify first.

> > > +
> > > +     dma_resv_unlock(dmabuf->resv);
> > > +
> > > +     dma_fence_put(fence);
> > > +
> > > +     return ret;
> > > +}
> > >  #endif
> > >
> > >  static long dma_buf_ioctl(struct file *file,
> > > @@ -467,6 +499,8 @@ static long dma_buf_ioctl(struct file *file,
> > >  #if IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_SYNC_FILE)
> > >       case DMA_BUF_IOCTL_EXPORT_SYNC_FILE:
> > >               return dma_buf_export_sync_file(dmabuf, (void __user *)arg);
> > > +     case DMA_BUF_IOCTL_IMPORT_SYNC_FILE:
> > > +             return dma_buf_import_sync_file(dmabuf, (const void __user *)arg);
> > >  #endif
> > >
> > >       default:
> > > diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/dma-buf.h b/include/uapi/linux/dma-buf.h
> > > index f902cadcbdb56..75fdde4800267 100644
> > > --- a/include/uapi/linux/dma-buf.h
> > > +++ b/include/uapi/linux/dma-buf.h
> > > @@ -70,5 +70,6 @@ struct dma_buf_sync_file {
> > >  #define DMA_BUF_SET_NAME_A   _IOW(DMA_BUF_BASE, 1, u32)
> > >  #define DMA_BUF_SET_NAME_B   _IOW(DMA_BUF_BASE, 1, u64)
> > >  #define DMA_BUF_IOCTL_EXPORT_SYNC_FILE       _IOWR(DMA_BUF_BASE, 2, struct dma_buf_sync_file)
> > > +#define DMA_BUF_IOCTL_IMPORT_SYNC_FILE       _IOW(DMA_BUF_BASE, 3, struct dma_buf_sync)
> >
> > Uh wrong struct here. Not good :-)
> >
> > Also more kerneldoc would be really nice, plus on 2nd thought I'm not
> > really sure saving the few bytes in storage
>
> Not sure what storage you're talking about.  Kernel headers?

Yeah the disk space waste on developers machines and all that :-)
-Daniel

> > is such a bright idea, and
> > maybe we should have distinct dma_buf_export/import_sync_file structures,
> > each with their appropriate kerneldoc and no confusion.
>
> Sure. I can do that.
>
> > Aside from these I think this looks good. And as long as we keep up the
> > "shared fences in their entirety complete after the exclusive fence if
> > both are present", then I think we'll be fine.
> > -Daniel
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >  #endif
> > > --
> > > 2.31.1
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Daniel Vetter
> > Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
> > http://blog.ffwll.ch



-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: Jason Ekstrand <jason@jlekstrand.net>
Cc: Intel GFX <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Maling list - DRI developers <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 6/6] RFC: dma-buf: Add an API for importing sync files (v6)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2021 21:33:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKMK7uF46pvRqavOJqUzi10qEfa0e5-stZc_71JksHsNkZRRRA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOFGe95YJsW8goeDMPzLm=oHc0_Z7NHCAnPDwPaRWToN8s39=g@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 9:19 PM Jason Ekstrand <jason@jlekstrand.net> wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 10:37 AM Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 03:59:54PM -0500, Jason Ekstrand wrote:
> > > This patch is analogous to the previous sync file export patch in that
> > > it allows you to import a sync_file into a dma-buf.  Unlike the previous
> > > patch, however, this does add genuinely new functionality to dma-buf.
> > > Without this, the only way to attach a sync_file to a dma-buf is to
> > > submit a batch to your driver of choice which waits on the sync_file and
> > > claims to write to the dma-buf.  Even if said batch is a no-op, a submit
> > > is typically way more overhead than just attaching a fence.  A submit
> > > may also imply extra synchronization with other work because it happens
> > > on a hardware queue.
> > >
> > > In the Vulkan world, this is useful for dealing with the out-fence from
> > > vkQueuePresent.  Current Linux window-systems (X11, Wayland, etc.) all
> > > rely on dma-buf implicit sync.  Since Vulkan is an explicit sync API, we
> > > get a set of fences (VkSemaphores) in vkQueuePresent and have to stash
> > > those as an exclusive (write) fence on the dma-buf.  We handle it in
> > > Mesa today with the above mentioned dummy submit trick.  This ioctl
> > > would allow us to set it directly without the dummy submit.
> > >
> > > This may also open up possibilities for GPU drivers to move away from
> > > implicit sync for their kernel driver uAPI and instead provide sync
> > > files and rely on dma-buf import/export for communicating with other
> > > implicit sync clients.
> > >
> > > We make the explicit choice here to only allow setting RW fences which
> > > translates to an exclusive fence on the dma_resv.  There's no use for
> > > read-only fences for communicating with other implicit sync userspace
> > > and any such attempts are likely to be racy at best.  When we got to
> > > insert the RW fence, the actual fence we set as the new exclusive fence
> > > is a combination of the sync_file provided by the user and all the other
> > > fences on the dma_resv.  This ensures that the newly added exclusive
> > > fence will never signal before the old one would have and ensures that
> > > we don't break any dma_resv contracts.  We require userspace to specify
> > > RW in the flags for symmetry with the export ioctl and in case we ever
> > > want to support read fences in the future.
> > >
> > > There is one downside here that's worth documenting:  If two clients
> > > writing to the same dma-buf using this API race with each other, their
> > > actions on the dma-buf may happen in parallel or in an undefined order.
> > > Both with and without this API, the pattern is the same:  Collect all
> > > the fences on dma-buf, submit work which depends on said fences, and
> > > then set a new exclusive (write) fence on the dma-buf which depends on
> > > said work.  The difference is that, when it's all handled by the GPU
> > > driver's submit ioctl, the three operations happen atomically under the
> > > dma_resv lock.  If two userspace submits race, one will happen before
> > > the other.  You aren't guaranteed which but you are guaranteed that
> > > they're strictly ordered.  If userspace manages the fences itself, then
> > > these three operations happen separately and the two render operations
> > > may happen genuinely in parallel or get interleaved.  However, this is a
> > > case of userspace racing with itself.  As long as we ensure userspace
> > > can't back the kernel into a corner, it should be fine.
> > >
> > > v2 (Jason Ekstrand):
> > >  - Use a wrapper dma_fence_array of all fences including the new one
> > >    when importing an exclusive fence.
> > >
> > > v3 (Jason Ekstrand):
> > >  - Lock around setting shared fences as well as exclusive
> > >  - Mark SIGNAL_SYNC_FILE as a read-write ioctl.
> > >  - Initialize ret to 0 in dma_buf_wait_sync_file
> > >
> > > v4 (Jason Ekstrand):
> > >  - Use the new dma_resv_get_singleton helper
> > >
> > > v5 (Jason Ekstrand):
> > >  - Rename the IOCTLs to import/export rather than wait/signal
> > >  - Drop the WRITE flag and always get/set the exclusive fence
> > >
> > > v5 (Jason Ekstrand):
> > >  - Split import and export into separate patches
> > >  - New commit message
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Jason Ekstrand <jason@jlekstrand.net>
> > > ---
> > >  drivers/dma-buf/dma-buf.c    | 34 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >  include/uapi/linux/dma-buf.h |  1 +
> > >  2 files changed, 35 insertions(+)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/drivers/dma-buf/dma-buf.c b/drivers/dma-buf/dma-buf.c
> > > index f23d939e0e833..0a50c19dcf015 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/dma-buf/dma-buf.c
> > > +++ b/drivers/dma-buf/dma-buf.c
> > > @@ -419,6 +419,38 @@ static long dma_buf_export_sync_file(struct dma_buf *dmabuf,
> > >       put_unused_fd(fd);
> > >       return ret;
> > >  }
> > > +
> > > +static long dma_buf_import_sync_file(struct dma_buf *dmabuf,
> > > +                                  const void __user *user_data)
> > > +{
> > > +     struct dma_buf_sync_file arg;
> > > +     struct dma_fence *fence, *singleton = NULL;
> > > +     int ret = 0;
> > > +
> > > +     if (copy_from_user(&arg, user_data, sizeof(arg)))
> > > +             return -EFAULT;
> > > +
> > > +     if (arg.flags != DMA_BUF_SYNC_RW)
> > > +             return -EINVAL;
> > > +
> > > +     fence = sync_file_get_fence(arg.fd);
> > > +     if (!fence)
> > > +             return -EINVAL;
> > > +
> > > +     dma_resv_lock(dmabuf->resv, NULL);
> > > +
> > > +     singleton = dma_resv_get_singleton_unlocked(dmabuf->resv, fence);
> > > +     if (IS_ERR(singleton))
> > > +             ret = PTR_ERR(singleton);
> > > +     else if (singleton)
> > > +             dma_resv_add_excl_fence(dmabuf->resv, singleton);
> >
> > We also need to add the new fence to the shared slots, to make sure that
> > the collective sum of shared fences still retires after the exclusive one.
> > Not holding this up will pretty surely allow userspace to pull a bunch of
> > ttm based drivers over the table I think.
>
> Ok, will fix.
>
> > Note that with dma-buf shared buffers there shouldn't be a problem here,
> > since as long as the buffer is in use by the other driver (which might
> > break the contract here) it's pinned. So nothing bad can happen.
> >
> >
> > Aside: The read-only version of this just adds the new fence, and the
> > exclusive fence to the shared array. I think that would be useful to have,
> > if just for completeness. I need to pester you how external images work
> > here with vulkan ...
>
> As discussed on IRC, let's leave that out until we can figure out how
> it works. :-)

Yup, there's a bunch more things we need to clarify first.

> > > +
> > > +     dma_resv_unlock(dmabuf->resv);
> > > +
> > > +     dma_fence_put(fence);
> > > +
> > > +     return ret;
> > > +}
> > >  #endif
> > >
> > >  static long dma_buf_ioctl(struct file *file,
> > > @@ -467,6 +499,8 @@ static long dma_buf_ioctl(struct file *file,
> > >  #if IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_SYNC_FILE)
> > >       case DMA_BUF_IOCTL_EXPORT_SYNC_FILE:
> > >               return dma_buf_export_sync_file(dmabuf, (void __user *)arg);
> > > +     case DMA_BUF_IOCTL_IMPORT_SYNC_FILE:
> > > +             return dma_buf_import_sync_file(dmabuf, (const void __user *)arg);
> > >  #endif
> > >
> > >       default:
> > > diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/dma-buf.h b/include/uapi/linux/dma-buf.h
> > > index f902cadcbdb56..75fdde4800267 100644
> > > --- a/include/uapi/linux/dma-buf.h
> > > +++ b/include/uapi/linux/dma-buf.h
> > > @@ -70,5 +70,6 @@ struct dma_buf_sync_file {
> > >  #define DMA_BUF_SET_NAME_A   _IOW(DMA_BUF_BASE, 1, u32)
> > >  #define DMA_BUF_SET_NAME_B   _IOW(DMA_BUF_BASE, 1, u64)
> > >  #define DMA_BUF_IOCTL_EXPORT_SYNC_FILE       _IOWR(DMA_BUF_BASE, 2, struct dma_buf_sync_file)
> > > +#define DMA_BUF_IOCTL_IMPORT_SYNC_FILE       _IOW(DMA_BUF_BASE, 3, struct dma_buf_sync)
> >
> > Uh wrong struct here. Not good :-)
> >
> > Also more kerneldoc would be really nice, plus on 2nd thought I'm not
> > really sure saving the few bytes in storage
>
> Not sure what storage you're talking about.  Kernel headers?

Yeah the disk space waste on developers machines and all that :-)
-Daniel

> > is such a bright idea, and
> > maybe we should have distinct dma_buf_export/import_sync_file structures,
> > each with their appropriate kerneldoc and no confusion.
>
> Sure. I can do that.
>
> > Aside from these I think this looks good. And as long as we keep up the
> > "shared fences in their entirety complete after the exclusive fence if
> > both are present", then I think we'll be fine.
> > -Daniel
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >  #endif
> > > --
> > > 2.31.1
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Daniel Vetter
> > Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
> > http://blog.ffwll.ch



-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-25 19:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-24 20:59 [PATCH 0/6] dma-buf: Add an API for exporting sync files (v10) Jason Ekstrand
2021-05-24 20:59 ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Ekstrand
2021-05-24 20:59 ` [PATCH 1/6] dma-buf: add dma_fence_array_for_each (v2) Jason Ekstrand
2021-05-24 20:59   ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Ekstrand
2021-05-24 20:59 ` [PATCH 2/6] dma-buf: Rename dma_resv helpers from _rcu to _unlocked Jason Ekstrand
2021-05-24 20:59   ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Ekstrand
2021-05-25 14:57   ` Daniel Vetter
2021-05-25 14:57     ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2021-05-24 20:59 ` [PATCH 3/6] dma-buf: add dma_resv_get_singleton_unlocked (v4) Jason Ekstrand
2021-05-24 20:59   ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Ekstrand
2021-05-24 20:59 ` [PATCH 4/6] dma-buf: Add an API for exporting sync files (v9) Jason Ekstrand
2021-05-24 20:59   ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Ekstrand
2021-05-25 15:08   ` Daniel Vetter
2021-05-25 15:08     ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2021-05-24 20:59 ` [PATCH 5/6] RFC: dma-buf: Add an extra fence to dma_resv_get_singleton_unlocked Jason Ekstrand
2021-05-24 20:59   ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Ekstrand
2021-05-25 15:25   ` Daniel Vetter
2021-05-25 15:25     ` Daniel Vetter
2021-05-24 20:59 ` [PATCH 6/6] RFC: dma-buf: Add an API for importing sync files (v6) Jason Ekstrand
2021-05-24 20:59   ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Ekstrand
2021-05-25 15:37   ` Daniel Vetter
2021-05-25 15:37     ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2021-05-25 19:19     ` Jason Ekstrand
2021-05-25 19:19       ` [Intel-gfx] " Jason Ekstrand
2021-05-25 19:33       ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
2021-05-25 19:33         ` Daniel Vetter
2021-05-24 22:30 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.CHECKPATCH: warning for dma-buf: Add an API for exporting sync files (v10) Patchwork
2021-05-24 22:33 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.SPARSE: " Patchwork
2021-05-24 22:55 ` [Intel-gfx] ✓ Fi.CI.BAT: success " Patchwork
2021-05-25  5:27 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.IGT: failure " Patchwork

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