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From: Balbir Singh <bsingharora@gmail.com>
To: Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>
Cc: lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM TOPIC] Un-addressable device memory and block/fs implications
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2016 14:55:28 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKTCnzkniWn_ayN9LsXzc9GRBQAaq_gqmvWu0-aELUxkCzkXMA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161213181511.GB2305@redhat.com>

On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 5:15 AM, Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com> wrote:
> I would like to discuss un-addressable device memory in the context of
> filesystem and block device. Specificaly how to handle write-back, read,
> ... when a filesystem page is migrated to device memory that CPU can not
> access.
>
> I intend to post a patchset leveraging the same idea as the existing
> block bounce helper (block/bounce.c) to handle this. I believe this is
> worth discussing during summit see how people feels about such plan and
> if they have better ideas.
>
>
Yes, that would be interesting. I presume all of this is for
ZONE_DEVICE and HMM.
I think designing such an interface requires careful thought on tracking pages
to ensure we don't lose writes and also the impact on things like the
writeback subsytem.

>From a HMM perspective and an overall MM perspective, I worry that our
accounting
system is broken with the proposed mirroring and unaddressable memory that
needs to be addressed as well.

It would also be nice to have a discussion on migration patches currently on the
list

1. THP migration
2. HMM migration
3. Async migration

> I also like to join discussions on:
>   - Peer-to-Peer DMAs between PCIe devices
>   - CDM coherent device memory

Yes, this needs discussion. Specifically from is all of CDM memory NORMAL or not
and the special requirements we have today for CDM.

>   - PMEM
>   - overall mm discussions

Balbir Singh.

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From: Balbir Singh <bsingharora@gmail.com>
To: Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>
Cc: lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM TOPIC] Un-addressable device memory and block/fs implications
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2016 14:55:28 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKTCnzkniWn_ayN9LsXzc9GRBQAaq_gqmvWu0-aELUxkCzkXMA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161213181511.GB2305@redhat.com>

On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 5:15 AM, Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com> wrote:
> I would like to discuss un-addressable device memory in the context of
> filesystem and block device. Specificaly how to handle write-back, read,
> ... when a filesystem page is migrated to device memory that CPU can not
> access.
>
> I intend to post a patchset leveraging the same idea as the existing
> block bounce helper (block/bounce.c) to handle this. I believe this is
> worth discussing during summit see how people feels about such plan and
> if they have better ideas.
>
>
Yes, that would be interesting. I presume all of this is for
ZONE_DEVICE and HMM.
I think designing such an interface requires careful thought on tracking pages
to ensure we don't lose writes and also the impact on things like the
writeback subsytem.

>From a HMM perspective and an overall MM perspective, I worry that our
accounting
system is broken with the proposed mirroring and unaddressable memory that
needs to be addressed as well.

It would also be nice to have a discussion on migration patches currently on the
list

1. THP migration
2. HMM migration
3. Async migration

> I also like to join discussions on:
>   - Peer-to-Peer DMAs between PCIe devices
>   - CDM coherent device memory

Yes, this needs discussion. Specifically from is all of CDM memory NORMAL or not
and the special requirements we have today for CDM.

>   - PMEM
>   - overall mm discussions

Balbir Singh.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-12-14  3:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-13 18:15 [LSF/MM TOPIC] Un-addressable device memory and block/fs implications Jerome Glisse
2016-12-13 18:15 ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-13 18:15 ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-13 18:20 ` James Bottomley
2016-12-13 18:20   ` James Bottomley
2016-12-13 18:20   ` James Bottomley
2016-12-13 18:55   ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-13 18:55     ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-13 18:55     ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-13 20:01     ` James Bottomley
2016-12-13 20:01       ` James Bottomley
2016-12-13 20:22       ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-13 20:22         ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-13 20:22         ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-13 20:27       ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-13 20:27         ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-13 20:15 ` Dave Chinner
2016-12-13 20:15   ` Dave Chinner
2016-12-13 20:31   ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-13 20:31     ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-13 20:31     ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-13 21:10     ` Dave Chinner
2016-12-13 21:10       ` Dave Chinner
2016-12-13 21:24       ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-13 21:24         ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-13 21:24         ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-13 22:08         ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-13 22:08           ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-13 23:02           ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-13 23:02             ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-13 23:02             ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-13 22:13         ` Dave Chinner
2016-12-13 22:13           ` Dave Chinner
2016-12-13 22:55           ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-13 22:55             ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-13 22:55             ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-14  0:14             ` Dave Chinner
2016-12-14  0:14               ` Dave Chinner
2016-12-14  1:07               ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-14  1:07                 ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-14  1:07                 ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-14  4:23                 ` Dave Chinner
2016-12-14  4:23                   ` Dave Chinner
2016-12-14 16:35                   ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-14 16:35                     ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-14 16:35                     ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-14 11:13         ` [Lsf-pc] " Jan Kara
2016-12-14 11:13           ` Jan Kara
2016-12-14 17:15           ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-14 17:15             ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-14 17:15             ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-15 16:19             ` Jan Kara
2016-12-15 16:19               ` Jan Kara
2016-12-15 19:14               ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-15 19:14                 ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-15 19:14                 ` Jerome Glisse
2016-12-16  8:14                 ` Jan Kara
2016-12-16  8:14                   ` Jan Kara
2016-12-16  3:10               ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2016-12-16  3:10                 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2016-12-16  3:10                 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2016-12-19  8:46                 ` Jan Kara
2016-12-19  8:46                   ` Jan Kara
2016-12-19 17:00           ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2016-12-19 17:00             ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2016-12-14  3:55 ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2016-12-14  3:55   ` Balbir Singh
2016-12-16  3:14 ` [LSF/MM ATTEND] " Aneesh Kumar K.V
2016-12-16  3:14   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2017-01-16 12:04   ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-01-16 12:04     ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-01-16 23:15     ` John Hubbard
2017-01-16 23:15       ` John Hubbard
2017-01-18 11:00   ` [Lsf-pc] " Jan Kara
2017-01-18 11:00     ` Jan Kara

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